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post #12751 of 12968
Thanks for the reply, I have been to the antenna web site as well as the FCC and others, they show I'm in the yellow zone so a small multi directional should give me the 4 channels that I would care about during the sporting season/ cable failure as backup, ABC, CBS, FOX, and NBC. I believe they were all UHF from the SSE direction and The farthest appears to be 13 miles ,10 miles looks like the closest. I was hoping someone had a brand or model number that they like for indoor use. I'd rather not put up an outdoor antenna, but am not opposed to running a cable outside and when needed place the antenna, but it'd probably be more ground level versus roof mounted so that probably wouldn't help much.
post #12752 of 12968
I feel your pain. If your house is relatively high up, you may just get by. Sometimes it's sheer luck. Perhaps you could purchase an indoor model locally at Best Buy and return it if the results are poor. But I just don't know which one to recommend.
post #12753 of 12968
Appreciate your help. I'll be browsing through other city forums to see if anything is recommended or not. Then see if I get on BestBuy's black list if I return an antenna. We really aren't high up, but might be able to get by with a decent looking antenna on the SE side of the house just below roof level, but some that I was looking at were over $250.00 and really don't want to spend that on a backup, and read that the attic antennas were almost worthless.

I'll start playing around when it warms up a bit
post #12754 of 12968
Call Antennas Direct, they're out in Ellisville and probably understand your situation better than anyone else.

Otherwise, run by Walmart and pick up a ClearStream 1 Convertible and give it a try. It can go indoors or outdoors and costs about $60. It should be suitable for your general area as long as you aren't in a valley.
post #12755 of 12968
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Originally Posted by moman19 View Post

How lucky do you feel? I find that OTA reception can be hit and miss without an outdoor antenna.
I concur. I am getting reliable indoor broadcast TV reception in the Central West End -- but only by using this antenna on the second floor of the house. It feeds a very sensitive OnAirGT USB receiver.
post #12756 of 12968
After it warms up a bit, I think I will try the Mohu Leaf http://store.gomohu.com/the-leaf-indoor-hdtv-antenna.html or the Winegard http://www.winegard.com/flatwave/costco.php. I like the Winegard as I have a sliding glass door facing East near the tv that might give me better results than the Leaf. Unless someone has had failure with these in this area.

Thanks for the info on Antennas Direct. I have browsed their website before, but never saw that they were in Ellisville. Looks like for my intentions a unidirectional antenna would be best as the channels I'm currently concerned within 16 degrees of each other.
post #12757 of 12968
FYI - 16.2, 16.3 and 16.4 are lit up, currently showing color bars.
post #12758 of 12968
I take it you've gotten a 16.1 before? I've never gotten any channel 16's.

One of these days, I need to get up on the roof and spin the antenna back to where it should be. It was spun about 30 degrees off by a huge wind storm a few years back. Still doesn't affect any of the major channels, so I never bothered spinning it back as of yet.
post #12759 of 12968
I noticed this evening that DirecTv updated their guide adding ThisTV and MeTV to the St Louis OTA guide. They got ThisTV correct as channel 11-2, but they screwed up the MeTV listing it as channel 4-2 (should have been 46-2) which is LWN.

Sigh....
Edited by ProjectSHO89 - 4/1/13 at 7:47pm
post #12760 of 12968
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89 View Post

I noticed this evening that DirecTv updated their guide adding ThisTV and MeTV to the St Louis OTA guide. They got ThisTV correct as channel 11-2, but they screwed up the MeTV listing it as channel 4-2 (should have been 46-2) which is LWN.

Sigh....

Nope thats not error Metv is moving to Kmov next monday.

http://metvnetwork.com/wherewatch.php?zipcode=63042&x=27&y=20
post #12761 of 12968
Correction it's on 4.3 now. Will move to 4.2 next week. I'm out of town right so I can't check to see if it is. I'm just glad they moved off 46 to a better station.
post #12762 of 12968
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Originally Posted by awh View Post

FYI - 16.2, 16.3 and 16.4 are lit up, currently showing color bars.
I get only 16.1, but I also see a 4.3 "KMOV-DT"
post #12763 of 12968
So how come MeTV never got any listings from DirecTV's APG when it was coming from WRBU, but the minute it switches to KMOV, suddenly we get listings?

And while I'm at it, how come we still get no listings for AntennaTV on 2-2?
post #12764 of 12968
As best I remember, this would be the first time in several years that Directv has added any local OTA sub-channel guide data. Glad to see them finally do something.

As for 2-2, who knows? It sure would be nice for their guide data to also be integrated into the D* guide.
post #12765 of 12968
Hello, I came by this forum trying to figure out what's going on with an OTA/ Dishnetwork issue. I have 3 receivers in my house and they all exhibit this behavior. It is only on one channel. If I watch KTVI on the dish channel 6456 I get an intermittent horizontal line in the middle of the screen. It looks like the entire top half of the screen is offset from the bottom of the screen by 1/8 to 1/4 inch. It happens so quickly that it looks like a line. If I view KTVI on the OTA 2-1 using the built in OTA tuner in the receiver, I have no issues. Do any other Dish subscribers have this issue or is it just me? Thanks
post #12766 of 12968
I noticed this during Idol the other day but have not tuned in since then to scope it out any further. I just assumed it was a local issue. Is this an all-the-time thing that is still going on? (I guess I can check for myself, but clearly, you're on top of this.)
post #12767 of 12968
Thanks for the reply. I've noticed it for a few days. This morning is when I noticed it doesn't do it on the OTA tuner.
post #12768 of 12968
Just a quick note for fellow recovering 24 fans... Dennis Haysbert, who played President Palmer for half the show's run before moving on to do The Unit, is starring in tonight's cheesy monster movie on the SyFy channel... something called Battle Dogs.
post #12769 of 12968
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Originally Posted by moman19 View Post

I noticed this during Idol the other day but have not tuned in since then to scope it out any further. I just assumed it was a local issue. Is this an all-the-time thing that is still going on? (I guess I can check for myself, but clearly, you're on top of this.)

I guess I spoke too soon. I had this issue for several days and all is well ths morning.
post #12770 of 12968
Here today, gone tomorrow....... It happens.
post #12771 of 12968
I don't think DirecTV suddenly having info for MeTV in the channel guide is any change on their part.

MeTV switched from WRBU to KMOV. DirecTV is doing nothing here but continuing to provide info for KMOV, as it's always done.

Doesn't give me any hope at all that AntennaTV, the Country Network, or any of the channel 7's will be added any time soon. frown.gif
post #12772 of 12968
Dish Network does not provide any Guide info for METV. This was the same situation while on Ch. 46-02. I'm not a fan so I don't really miss this, but I find it odd that Dish tends to miss Guide info for all the local sub-channels yet manages to contain full listings for 11-02. The Channel 9 subs have been missing/incomplete in the Dish Guide for years.
post #12773 of 12968
I wonder if Weigel Broadcasting had anything to do with the addition of guide date for ME-TV and This-TV to D*'s guide? That's the only thing I can think of that is in common for those two multi-cast channels.

Now that Me-TV is on 4-2, the guide problem I noted on the 1st is corrected. Perhaps D* was just premature. All is good now.

I wonder if Me-TV and ThisTV guide data is being provided by D* in other markets?
Edited by ProjectSHO89 - 4/10/13 at 2:51pm
post #12774 of 12968
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89 View Post

I wonder if Me-TV and ThisTV guide data is being provided by D* in other markets?
yes the do but it depends really on if the market
Here in Minneapolis the answer is NO but ThisTV did have guide info previously.
Originally it did when it first launched in Minneapolis when it was on 45-2 (KSTC DT2). Then sister station KSTP (5) decided to merge the PSIP of 5 & 45 so it was on 5-4 and MeTV was added to 5-3. Directv got all the guide info right except they didnt add 5-3 so no guide info. Then they redid it again and added AntennaTV to 5-4 so we have guide info for them (yay) and LIvwWell on 5-7 they added guide info but ThisTV moved to 5-6 and no guide info...confused yet? wink.gif

5-1 KSTP ABC yes guide info
5-2 KSTC IND yes guide info
5-3 MeTV no
5-4 AntennaTV yes
5-6 ThisTV no
5-7 Live Well yes

(and before you ask...no we dont have 2 720p stations and 4 480i stations on one station.....5-1 & 5-7 are together on RF35 plus a bunch of mobile crap and 5-2,5-3,5-4,5-6 are on RF45) wink.gif
post #12775 of 12968
KMOV rebroadcasting last nights' shows preempted by the weather:

(KMOV.com) – CBS programming that was preempted by News 4's coverage of Wednesday night's severe storms will be aired overnight into Friday morning.
Here are the times the shows will reair:
Survivor - 1:22 a.m.
Criminal Minds - 2:04 a.m.
CSI - 3:04 a.m.

Mike
post #12776 of 12968
On a related note about the weather, I bought a USB tuner for my laptop to use in case of emergencies like last night. I don't have a TV in the basement, and this is portable enough to use anywhere. It works very well in the bedroom, however last night, the little stubby antenna it came with would not work very well. I tried stretching some wire along the floor joists, but that did not work either. I have no windows in the basement that faces south ( I live just south of Lambert), and the highest point would be about 2 feet above ground level. Any idea's on a good indoor antenna that would work in these conditions?
post #12777 of 12968
Buy an antenna, put it where IT needs to be, and run a coax into the basement.

My favorite "indoor" antenna is the ClearStream 2. It can also go outdoors.
post #12778 of 12968
11-2 has been in DirecTV's guide for several months now, so only MeTV on 4-2 has changed.

I suspect whether a sub channel appears in the DirecTV guide has something to do with whether the local channel provides the subchannel data to DirecTV? The fact that MeTV started getting listings at the exact same time it switched from 46-2 to 4-2 is not a coincidence, in my opinion (which admittedly is worth what y'all paid me for it). biggrin.gif
post #12779 of 12968
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Originally Posted by moman19 View Post

More reasons why the local network affiliates are now useless beyond weather alerts and occasionally some local news. I wish we could gain direct access to the network feeds, rather than rely on the locals to re-transmit while getting "creaitve" or just simply blowing it.

And they say they're watching out for us? Hardly. What's amazing is that they believe they are doing us a service and they keep proving they don't even know what we, the customers, want.
post #12780 of 12968
I'd certainly love to be able to watch the network feed online. I can get neither CBS nor the CW on a regular basis, and, of the three I do watch, I just don't often watch TV very often. I'd be a lot more likely to watch if I had some way of watching on my iPad anywhere in the house instead of wandering into the living room and flipping through the 5 channels we get. Also, it'd mean that I was watching their feed, ads and all, and not Netflix, so they'd probably get more money, too.
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