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post #12841 of 12970
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Originally Posted by moman19 View Post

That's an interesting observation. Since TBS is a national network, if those "local" spots are only appearing in our market, I must assume the receiver is somehow automatically storing and later inserting them. Seems rather complex and a bit sneaky. I have E* and did not notice this. I will look more closely in the future.

I don't know what Dish does. But I have read that in other markets that Directv has been doing what you said and having them stored on the DVR and insert them in the national feed when they have local inserts. The same way they have local weather info on the locals on the 8s on The Weather Channel.
post #12842 of 12970
Why did I wait so long to upgrade to the Hopper from Dish? I just installed the OTA tuner and can now record up to 7 HD shows simultaneously. PrimeTime Anytime gives me ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox, while the OTA tuner gives me the WB. Two tuners are still free for regular satellite programming. Since the WB is too small to rate a place alongside the bigger boys of PrimeTime, the OTA tuner (which is a simple plug in USB dongle) fills out the locals roster for me. I watch Arrow and Beauty and the Beast on the WB. (Still can't shake my long-standing celebrity crush on Kristin Kreuk (the Beauty in the name). smile.gif )

Speaking of rosters, don't know what to think of Alan Craig being back for the World Series. I wonder how much rust he'll have to shake off. Anyway, we should be worried. Some analysts over on the MLB Network have picked the Cardinals to win the Series. Given the experts' track records for picking winners, that makes me nervous. biggrin.gif
post #12843 of 12970
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Given the experts' track records for picking winners, that makes me nervous.

In that case, you'll be comforted to know that the Vegas line favors the Red Sox. biggrin.gif

I just upgraded my D* system to an HR44 Genie with an AM21 tuner. Like you. I'm impressed with the tuner capacity and the flexibility of the multi-room viewing features. For me, it was worth a new two year contract....
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Anybody attempting to watch the Formula 1 race on KSDK? If you hadn't, they interrupted the entire pre-race show while they watched the storms leave the viewing area. Several laps into the race they finally picked up the feed and it's crap both OTA and DirecTV. I thought we were past all this? NBCSN will rebroadcast with pre-race at 5pm and race at 5:30. I'm hoping that's a better experience.
post #12846 of 12970
Amen!

I emailed the station and got a reply that "literally thousands of communities in southern IL are currently under Tornado Warnings." Yeah. Have they noticed that without some serious antenna work, receiving a digital TV signal beyond 60 miles if pretty tough? And if warning crossroads villages to the east was their rationale, why cover the news about storm damage WEST of the city? That could easily have waited for the regularly-scheduled news -- no "warning" value there.

And they DO have a alternate stream on 5-2 that they could use for weather. In fact, it still displays "KSDK-WX" in the top right corner, so it would be truthful!

Towards the end of the weather report, the announcers were having so much trouble finding new topics to talk about that they started reporting the weather in Chicago, and even Michigan. Quite a "viewing area" KSDK must have! The alleged "warning" value would have lost nothing if they at least showed us the actual start of the race.

It looked like their difficulties in finally showing the race were due to bad dish aiming on somebody's part. Channels 2, 4, 9, 11, and 30 looked fine; so it wasn't midwest weather causing it. All the other channels on DTV looked fine, even on my little bitty dish, so with the monsters that the local broadcasters use they should have been in fat city.

Just a giant SNAFU. Time for some soul-searching and house-cleaning at Channel 5.
post #12847 of 12970
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Originally Posted by Dan in St. Louis View Post

they DO have a alternate stream on 5-2 that they could use for weather.

KMOV tried to do the right thing... they dropped Me-TV (4.2), moved network programming to 4.2 and ran weather on 4.1 - now, if you were expecting to see 'The Brady Bunch' on 4.2 you were disappointed, and network wound up being cropped 4x3 in standard definition. They could have just as easily kept network on 4.1 in HD, dropped Me-TV and run their weather on 4.2... actually dropping LiveWell on 4.3 and replacing it with weather would be an even better choice since LiveWell reruns so much of their programing during the week.

The situation over at KSDK was a mess, Bounce-TV on 5.2 was gone during much of their weather coverage. Then when they finally rejoined NBC network, after rehashing the same weather information over and over, F1 racing suffered from picture/audio breakup until someone went out to the dish with a wrench and realigned it!

And do we really need more than one local channel covering weather? They all get the same information from the weather bureau and use the same radar information... why not set up a channel (30.2 seems to be open) and use that for all of these special weather broadcasts? I know it's not a ratings thing, it's about bragging rights, but it would seem to me that serving the needs of the 2% of viewers in the affected area upsets the 98% who don't care and would rather have scheduled programming.
Edited by awh - 11/17/13 at 3:13pm
post #12848 of 12970
>>serving the needs of the 2% of viewers in the affected area upsets the 98% who don't care and would rather have scheduled programming<<

If the story line of "The Newsroom" for past two seasons has been anything close to reality, the people inside television stations are so far removed from the reality experienced by their viewers that it is a wonder that we even recognize our world when we see it on TV.
post #12849 of 12970
I've heard that we can see a re-run on NBC Sports, pre-race at 5pm, race at 6pm.

Yes, it seems to be on right now.
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Hi,

 

I am wondering the pro's and con's of Charter vs U-Verse service?  Satellite won't work for me because of all the tall trees.  Thanks

post #12851 of 12970
I subscribe to Dish and I love the service. Lot's of HD channels, great DVRs and great quality of HD images. I would try to somehow go around the trees even if you must place the antenna on a pole. If you need Internet access, go with Charter, which is must faster than U-Verse. I find the "wired" providers have much less channels, poorer HD quality and weak DVRs.

(of course, this note will probably start all kinds of opinions to fly. Enjoy......... smile.gif)
post #12852 of 12970
Ditto. My sister had U-Verse before she moved and now has Charter. I don't care for either of the DVR's. Charter Internet service, though, is really, really good - lightning fast! I use Magic Jack phone service, which simply plugs into my Charter Internet router/switch and gives me OK performance for $20/year. It's not something I'd use for business, but it almost never goes down now that I've worked out a modem issue I was having with Charter.

The Dish Hopper lets me record up to 7 HD programs at the same time, including one OTA tuner that is a USB device that plugs into the back. Another nice feature of the Dish receivers is the ability to add an external USB hard drive. You can move programs to and from this device for archiving, and you have access to both the internal Hopper drive and the external USB drive at the same time, with a few clicks of the remote. For those rare instances when I want to save OTA programs (or simply make sure I don't miss something because of the endless fee fights that these huge companies get into), I have a Hauppauge dual OTA tuner in my computer, which lets me record two OTA shows to the hard drive of my PC. The Hopper's PrimeTime Anytime feature records local ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox broadcasts using a single tuner (one of 4 if you count the USB OTA tuner). I was afraid PrimeTime Anytime might reduce the quality of the local broadcasts, but that hasn't been a problem. They look about the same to me as when I record them using a regular Hopper tuner.

With the Hopper and the computer OTA tuners, it's very unlikely I'll miss local programming.

I also don't want to start a "My provider is better than your provider" war, but sometimes it's hard to sift through the marketing hype these companies lay on us. I thought I'd add my take on why I like Dish TV (with OTA)/Charter Internet/Magic Jack so much. YMMV. smile.gif
post #12853 of 12970

The satellite companies really won't work for me because I have tall trees everywhere.  So if I am stuck choosing between two sub-optimal TV providers (I plan on getting Charter for internet as everyone says its best) what is my best option Charter or U-Verse?  Which one has the best HD picture quality?

post #12854 of 12970
If you want TV and Internet from the same company, I suppose you ought to avoid Dish if you can help it, but that's just because of satellite latency. But if satellite doesn't work for you anyway, oh well, then, forget I mentioned Dish. These days, it seems the companies compete on a couple different tiers: bundling services, plans, and VoD availability. I can't tell you anything about the specifics of either provider, but be sure to look at their VoD offerings, too. Pricing, content, availability period, etc. But from my most recent browsing on the matter, it seems the cheapest tier of locals+ service starts at around $30 per month after the new account benefit period ends for any provider. Pricing seems pretty homogenous beyond that level, too.
post #12855 of 12970
When watching/listening to Revenge, Betrayal, etc. with DD 5.1, is anyone hearing intermittent clicking from the rear speakers? I just started hearing this on tonight's episode. The noise is fairly subtle and intermittent so it's not easy to hear, but I only hear it on ABC broadcasts (KDNL-DT on DTV).

Thanks,
Andrew
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Originally Posted by Andrew Sabin View Post

When watching/listening to Revenge, Betrayal, etc. with DD 5.1, is anyone hearing intermittent clicking from the rear speakers? I just started hearing this on tonight's episode. The noise is fairly subtle and intermittent so it's not easy to hear, but I only hear it on ABC broadcasts (KDNL-DT on DTV).

Thanks,
Andrew

My old ears probably won't hear the noise but I will check. If Jim is still lurking, he'll probably respond. My concern regarding KDNL audio continues to be the too-Boomy Bass that sounds like someone has the LOUDNESS control activated. It's the only channel that exhibits this issue and I reported this long ago. Despite the fact that Jim is very responsive, the problem persists. I have E* but the OTA channel is the same. I have a sub-woofer which makes this "rumble" much more obvious. You won't notice this thru normal speakers or (clearly) internal TV speakers.
post #12857 of 12970
Its looks like were getting an Ion affiliate. As WRBU has been sold to Ion Media.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/roberts-tv-stations-to-be-sold/article_6dbc41fa-08af-5618-97d4-33b7acf750d0.html
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Wonder if Ion Media will give the station a long overdue upgrade to HD?
post #12859 of 12970
Interesting, since last week an FCC filing was submitted saying it was sold to Tri-State Christian.

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/prefill_and_display.pl?Application_id=1605318&Service=DT&Form_id=314&Facility_id=57221

- Trip
post #12860 of 12970
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Interesting, since last week an FCC filing was submitted saying it was sold to Tri-State Christian.

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/prefill_and_display.pl?Application_id=1605318&Service=DT&Form_id=314&Facility_id=57221

- Trip

Interesting find. I'm no lawyer, so this is only observation/assumption on my part, but the Agreements for Sale of Station box was checked no and the Auction Authorization was checked N/A. Since the assignee is a not for profit corporation, maybe they reassigned the license to avoid racking up more licensing fees.
post #12861 of 12970
It looks like the Deathstar can't have it both ways.

The Post-Dispatch state the Department Of Justice has ordered Gannett to divest Belo's KMOV 4 to a third party independent entity and not their proposed sidecar entity, Sander Media, LLC.

Of course this came after Gannett annouced it $2.2B ($1.5B + $715M in debt) deal to acquire Belo. Gannett would reassign stations where they overlap either a TV or newspaper entity to Sander. Of course many advocacy groups like Free Press and Amercan Cable Association have filed Petitions of Deny to block these sidecar deals to go through. Should this deal in St. Louis went through, Gannett would've operated KMOV under a shared arrangement, which they would rule the top-two stations in the market. Gannett already owns KSDK 5.
Edited by csworldwide1 - 12/16/13 at 6:28pm
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Merry Christmas to all (except KSDK)! They managed to ruin my once yearly church attendance by running an Amber alert scrolling text CONTINUOUSLY throughout tonight's entire broadcast of Christmas mass from the Vatican. Not of the other affiliates were doing this by my observation. Thank you very little KSDK.
post #12863 of 12970
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Originally Posted by Mike`L View Post

Merry Christmas to all (except KSDK)! They managed to ruin my once yearly church attendance by running an Amber alert scrolling text CONTINUOUSLY throughout tonight's entire broadcast of Christmas mass from the Vatican. Not of the other affiliates were doing this by my observation. Thank you very little KSDK.

Really nice.....The results of the Amber Alert....murder/suicide....the missing child will never experience a Christmas again.
post #12864 of 12970
Never mind on the previous post. The URL itself contained a profanity and, even though I cleaned up the text that showed here, the actual link was immediately censored.
post #12865 of 12970
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Originally Posted by Robert Simandl View Post

Never mind on the previous post. The URL itself contained a profanity and, even though I cleaned up the text that showed here, the actual link was immediately censored.

I don't see a previous post, so I assume all is well.
post #12866 of 12970
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Originally Posted by Robert Simandl View Post

Never mind on the previous post. The URL itself contained a profanity and, even though I cleaned up the text that showed here, the actual link was immediately censored.

Stuff happens. I do agree, the golden age of HDTV is past. Have to do a lot more sifting to find the gems.
post #12867 of 12970
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Interesting, since last week an FCC filing was submitted saying it was sold to Tri-State Christian.

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/prefill_and_display.pl?Application_id=1605318&Service=DT&Form_id=314&Facility_id=57221

- Trip

 

Would you believe that TCT has a station way over here in North Carolina?

From what I've seen of it, you Missourians should be pleased to learn that you will be getting Ion instead.

( TCT is not my cup of tea.)

 

Apparently Ion, a creditor in the bankruptcy case, convinced the judge that its plan was better than the proposed sale to TCT. I'm not sure why the station didn't wait for the judge's review before filing an FCC application.

 

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/local-tv/ion-acquire-roberts-broadcasting-trio/127992


Edited by veedon - 12/30/13 at 7:15pm
post #12868 of 12970
The TCT assignment of the licenses has been dismissed.

On 12/30, a new assignment was filed to transfer the licenses to a trust set up by ION s part of the bankruptcy case, so it looks like ION will own the stations outright once the bankruptcy case fully resolves.

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/prefill_and_display.pl?Application_id=1612040&Service=DT&Form_id=316&Facility_id=57221
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I don't know much about Ion, but are they solvent with ample capital to upgrade the facilities to HD?
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My Dish Hopper OTA tuner was about 3.5-4 seconds out of sync with the video tonight on the CW. Anyone else experience this issue?
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