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post #1441 of 12787
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Originally Posted by Dan in St. Louis View Post

Or, they are devoting 8 Mbps to a black frame...

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Originally Posted by wmschultz View Post

Channel 4-2 is a black frame. A signal that is present but only a 4:3 black picture.

8Mbps for basically no data! Seems a quite primitive transmission technology.
post #1442 of 12787
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I think -- and bear in mind that I'm only speculating -- that when KMOV set up the subchannel they made a hard allocation for subchannel bandwidth, and when the election ended and the subchannel went dark, they never removed the allocation.

It seems that if there wasn't any fixed allocation for the subchannel, once there wasn't any video or sound appearing on the subchannel, then the HD channel would have returned to full bandwidth. To my eye and others here, that clearly hasn't been the case.

Continuing on with the reading of tea leaves, it might seem like an oversight that the bandwidth wasn't returned to KMOV's HD channel, but maybe this can be explained by the fact that the CBS network does have plans for subchannel broadcasting. As a result, maybe KMOV simply left the subchannel allocation in place so as to "acclimate" HD viewers to a less robust service, or (more charitably) maybe they just expected to have something to put on the subchannel sooner.
post #1443 of 12787
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Originally Posted by duihlein View Post

Is it possible the low bit is due to KTVI broadcasting 1280x720p instead of 1920x1080i?

Dave

KDNL also does 1280x720p and their bandwidth is easily 17mbps or higher. The PQ on LOST is significantly sharper than anything on KTVI.

In fact, I always thought the best PQ in town was a toss up between LOST on KDNL and CSI MIAMI on KMOV. Since KMOV started stealing bandwidth so they can show a blank screen on 4-2, LOST is the official PQ king in St. Louis.

For all the bitching we do about KTVI, though... 24 still has the best sound in town. Those bullets don't just fly from speaker to speaker, they literally fly around the room!
post #1444 of 12787
Is that an SD picture I see coming from the NASCAR race on 2-1?
post #1445 of 12787
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Originally Posted by Dan in St. Louis View Post

Is that an SD picture I see coming from the NASCAR race on 2-1?

yup
post #1446 of 12787
Hey, I *finally* got the 6.3c update for the HD Tivo last night! Never did get the "b" update....
post #1447 of 12787
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Originally Posted by davesalaman View Post

yup

What are the "broadcast ethics" of transmitting an SD picture and an "Info box" claiming 16:9 and 720p at the same time?
post #1448 of 12787
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Originally Posted by Dan in St. Louis View Post

What are the "broadcast ethics" of transmitting an SD picture and an "Info box" claiming 16:9 and 720p at the same time?

Reports in the programing forum indicate ir was a network-wide issue.
It's back to HD now.

KTVI did leave the air for a minute though, Cable and OTA. Wonder if they had to reboot the splicer ?
post #1449 of 12787
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Originally Posted by Dan in St. Louis View Post

Is that an SD picture I see coming from the NASCAR race on 2-1?

It's HD on my Tivo.

Scott
post #1450 of 12787
Is anyone experiencing chn issues with PBS and KPLR HD on charter since yesterday? I get the "THis channel will be avail shortly" I wanted to see if the blues game was in HD today
post #1451 of 12787
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Originally Posted by Scott Tucker View Post

It's HD on my Tivo.

It is now. Their turboencabulator was frammixed.
post #1452 of 12787
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Originally Posted by Robert Simandl View Post

Hey, I *finally* got the 6.3c update for the HD Tivo last night! Never did get the "b" update....

Yeah, I got it, too -- right in the shorts. The update came on Wednesday afternoon and the process crashed my HD TiVo. I was away from Wednesday morning, and when I fired up the TV last night to watch "Lost," I was greeted by a "Please Wait a Few Moments..." After several minutes went by with no change, it was necessary to reboot (three times) to get the receiver back in commission. When it came back, the last thing recorded was a late Wednesday morning SportsCenter.

I'm officially fed up with this HD TiVo nonsense -- it's been nothing but hassles and inconvenience since the so-called "folders" update. When I called DirecTV to complain, they initially suggested a $299 "upgrade" as the solution, though they did eventually come down to $99.

DISH Network is looking ever more appealing...
post #1453 of 12787
Honestly, I've been pleased with the HR20-700. It's not the TIVO interface, and I have to learn some things differently, but I'm recording and watching standard and HD TV just fine. I have no regrets switching, and with the sale of one of my HR10-250 receivers and a second that I have for sale now, I will come out ahead on the cost to switch.
post #1454 of 12787
I just checked and I too got the 6.3c update. I really don't know when it happened, but it did. I hope everything still works the way it has been with 6.3b.

Doug, if you gonna make the switch sell you tivo on Fleabay. They are bringing at least $300 each and more if you have original box, manual, remote, etc.

Glad KSDK had the Match play in HD, but they need some hand held HD cameras.

Scott
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The program guide on E* was populated with the information for 9.1 a couple of weeks ago and now it's gone. It was there for about a day. Anyone have an explanation?
post #1456 of 12787
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Originally Posted by bhornberger View Post

Is anyone experiencing chn issues with PBS and KPLR HD on charter since yesterday? I get the "THis channel will be avail shortly" I wanted to see if the blues game was in HD today

The point is moot. KPLR does NOT broadcast ANY Blues games in HD. The only Blues games available in HD this year are on FSN HD (I think 10 total games were/are broadcast in HD this year) and Versus HD (if you actually have this channel). I believe that NBC sometimes broadcasts their games in HD on the weekends as well, but the only Blues game on NBC so far (vs. Kings on free food day) was NOT in HD.
post #1457 of 12787
Off topic....

I just got back from seeing the new Ghost Rider movie. I want those two hours of my life back.

The cheesy CGI will look especially silly when this movie gets broadcast in HD.
post #1458 of 12787
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

The program guide on E* was populated with the information for 9.1 a couple of weeks ago and now it's gone. It was there for about a day. Anyone have an explanation?

It's been discussed here, Ferl. Short story is, DISH is amidst some extensive changes regarding sub channel guide data.

9.2, .3, & .4 were populated for 1-2 days, and 9.1 was not. .2, .3, & .4 went away, and 9.1 returned. Now they're all gone. DISH is trying to arrange all the PBS subs to suit each local market's EPG.

If you'd like more detailed information, search the thread...it was discussed 2-3 weeks ago, and also 5-6 weeks ago.
post #1459 of 12787
I thought the Oscar's looked great tonight.
Is this the first HD production for them?

Why is it KDNL can switch in-and-out of commercial, without the audio popping me off the chair?

Good job Jim (Wracer)....I enjoyed watching it
post #1460 of 12787
The picture looks great on the Oscars but for a few moments the sound was out of sync. However the racer and his crew cleared that up right away. Thanks.
post #1461 of 12787
ABC's coverage of the Academy Awards was absolutely stellar. The other local affiliates should learn from this.
Ken, I agree about CBS's annoying pops when commercials hit. Also, no, this was not the first time ABC has done the Academy Awards in HD.

Scott
post #1462 of 12787
The "HD leader," kSDk, has its share of annoying pops when switching to and from HD.

And I agree, the Oscars tonight was an absolute triumph for ABC and KDNL. Puts last week's Grammy show on CBS/KMOV to shame.
post #1463 of 12787
KDNL is the one shining light in our HD sky. Thanks, Jim, for all your hard work, and for caring so much. For all the people just getting into HD, at least there is KDNL to point to for image quality.
post #1464 of 12787
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January Sales Data Indicate Blu-ray Doubled HD DVD Sales

The following story excerpt is from today's TV Predictions newsletter:
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Blu-ray HDTV DVDs outsold rival HD-DVD by a two to one margin in January, according to Nielsen's home video unit. And Blu-ray players are now in roughly one million homes (including PlayStation 3 units), far more than the number of HD-DVD units, according to industry reports.

With the latest numbers, you can understand why Sony, which backs the Blu-ray format, is declaring victory in the biggest video format war since Beta vs. VHS.

The message that we're going to put out to the consumer now is, now it is safe to make a choice, says Sony Pictures Home Entertainment President David Bishop. No more fence-sitting is needed.

But Video Business reports that Toshiba, which is behind the HD-DVD format, is not ready to concede and is planning a number of initiatives to level the playing field.

For starters, Circuit City, which has rarely carried Toshiba products in its electronics stores, has begun offering Toshiba's second-generation HD-DVD players. (The retailer has sold Blu-ray players since they were launched last spring.) In addition, Toshiba has partnered with Circuit City to hold showcases for the HD-DVD format at selected stores.

Circuit City has become a very strong partner, Jodi Sally, vice president of marketing for Toshiba America Consumer Products Digital A/V group, told the publication. We've already done over 200 demos at Circuit City, which we started at the end of January. It was always our intention to expand our retail distribution.

Sally told Video Business that sales of Toshiba's second generation players have already passed sales of the company's first HD-DVD series which was introduced last spring. However, she refused to provide sales numbers.

Also likely on the horizon: A $100 price cut on the second-generation HD-DVD players, which now start at $499. At $399, Toshiba's unit would cost up to $600 less than some Blu-ray players.

You'll see the lower pricing in 30 to 60 days, one industry source told Video Business. "For Toshiba to hit the sell-through numbers that it wants, I expect to see a base level of $299 this fall.
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post #1465 of 12787
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AT&T's U-verse Inks Deal for HGTV, Food Network in HD

From today's Morning Bridge newsletter:
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AT&T and Scripps Networks this morning announced a distribution agreement to deliver the programmer's linear, high-def and on-demand programming as part of the AT&T U-verse TV channel lineup.

Channels included in the deal are HGTV, Food Network, DIY Network, Fine Living TV Network and Great American Country (GAC).
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post #1466 of 12787
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

KDNL is the one shining light in our HD sky. Thanks, Jim, for all your hard work, and for caring so much. For all the people just getting into HD, at least there is KDNL to point to for image quality.

I just wanted to add my "second" to Joe's statement.

The stellar work that Jim does for KDNL goes to show that producing a high quality HD broadcast service comes down to making a commitment to it and then following through.
post #1467 of 12787
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Study Finds Proper HDTV Setup May Reduce Electricity Need by 25%

This may seem a little bit self-serving, but I think it does "shed some additional light" on recent discussions here about the benefits of reducing contrast settings or operating displays in "low power" modes.

The following excerpts are from the March 2007 issue of Widescreen Review ("One Installer's Opinion" column, pp 58-59). The article details initial findings of an Imaging Science Foundation (ISF) study, conducted in concert with the environment focused firm, Eco Consulting.

Some highlights:
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* The TV manufacturers and the EPA are working together to develop a standard video test clip to use when measuring TV energy use. Our preliminary measurements with that test clip are showing BIG energy use variations within TVs of the same type and size, probably due to differences in power supply design, backlight settings, and picture control factory defaults. Some of the biggest energy users consume more electricity in a year than your fridge!

* Just before CES, we were able to take some cursory measurements on a popular manufacturer's 50-inch Plasma Display Panel to check the effect that display settings have on power use. Through special instrumentation provided by Ecos, we were able to measure the difference between "out-of-the-box" consumption and "post calibration" consumption power drain to the fourth decimal place. We were hoping for as much as a 5 percent improvement, but what we found was on the order of 25 to 30 percent.

* While there are certain to be different results for different manufacturers and technologies (Plasma versus DLP versus LCD, etc.), and a much larger sample size for each will be required -- and results by technology need to be weighted and averaged for existing and future set populations -- this is very big news...

* What if government bodies were to encourage all manufacturers to ship their sets with energy-saving screen settings (think MOVIE instead of VIVID) that were the factory default? The consequences for the 98 percent of the population who don't know/care about calibration will be: 1) Better Picture Quality; 2) Less Eye Strain; and, 3) Lower Electric Bills.
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The balance of the article discusses some of the basics of video calibration and the benefits of LCD displays with backlight controls and displays that allow the user to create specific settings for daytime and night viewing.

The full article can be found at the Widescreen Review web site (www.widescreenreview.com), although a subscription to the magazine is required for online access.
post #1468 of 12787
I find that we do have a hockey team and they just made a GREAT trade.

Walt
post #1469 of 12787
PC Mag has it here

barry
post #1470 of 12787
Has anyone tried to hook up a Moxi box to a monitor using a component to VGA cable? Am I going to need a transcoder or will a simple cable work? I tried to hook the monitor up via DVI's, but the monitor is not HDCP compatible, and the Charter equipment wouldn't let me change the resolution up from 480i. Also, the monitor component inputs only allow 480i or 540i, so component to component won't work. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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