St. Louis, MO - HDTV - Page 53

Originally Posted by twombomber

I have a Dish installer here now. Having 2 dual tuner receivers installed, one HD. I had asked him about putting up an ota antenna--he says I don't need one, I'll get all local channels in HD. True? What is the point of getting the channels ota?

Originally Posted by twombomber

I, too, am ready to kick Charter out my door, at least for tv. Dish is supposed to be here by noon today to install. Had it set up for 2 weeks ago but got snowed out. Matth, how low did they go for your internet?

Originally Posted by twombomber

I have a Dish installer here now. Having 2 dual tuner receivers installed, one HD. I had asked him about putting up an ota antenna--he says I don't need one, I'll get all local channels in HD. True? What is the point of getting the channels ota?

Originally Posted by twombomber

I, too, am ready to kick Charter out my door, at least for tv. Dish is supposed to be here by noon today to install. Had it set up for 2 weeks ago but got snowed out. Matth, how low did they go for your internet?

Originally Posted by Scott Tucker

twombomber,
You will also get access to TV when an asteroid knocks the satellite from the sky.
Seriously,
There have been a few times I have been able to watch OTA when my satellite was not receiving signal like during a blizzard. It can only benefit you to have an antenna.
Scott

Originally Posted by Mr_Bester

I didn't realize dish had 11HD and 9HD through the dish....

Originally Posted by kdg454

They don't....and I don't think anyone posted they did
Just 2, 4, 5, & 30 on SAT (Dish)

With OTA, through a DISH receiver, you can get 9 & 11 digital signals.

Originally Posted by kdg454

They don't....and I don't think anyone posted they did
Just 2, 4, 5, & 30 on SAT (Dish)

With OTA, through a DISH receiver, you can get 9 & 11 digital signals.

Originally Posted by towmbomer

I have a Dish installer here now. Having 2 dual tuner receivers installed, one HD. I had asked him about putting up an ota antenna--he says I don't need one, I'll get all local channels in HD. True? What is the point of getting the channels ota?

Originally Posted by kdg454

Yes, true.

OTA gives you the ability to record an additional HD or SD timer. Presently, you'll be able to record 2 HD events on your HD DVR...with OTA, it would be 3.
OTA is also a slightly clearer, sharper picture.

Originally Posted by aspec2

Doug

I think AT&T runs fiber to the neighborhood and coax to your house????? I understand Verizon runs fiber to your house. I read where Verizon will give you a 30mps connection on the east coast. They had a lot of problems in the beginning but I have not heard of any recently. If this is true, I am not surprised why Verizon is beating AT&T. Now that I have a DVR I think I will be waiting for the Verizon service.
Walt

Originally Posted by John Kotches

Actually, the whole model of U-Verse is essentially VOD. When you select a channel, it's going to start streaming down your selection. When you goto another channel, it stops the current stream and starts another stream.

The downside is that (at this point) you are limited to just 1 HD channel at a time with U-Verse.
Cheers,

Originally Posted by kdg454

....that semi-annual sun-spot thingie which blocks the signals. I forget what it's called.



BTW...OT, but I've been meaning to ask our grammar guru, Mo.....is "that" or "which" proper in my sentence?

Originally Posted by MoInSTL

Stop it! I am not the grammar police and my punctuation is horrid. But
since you asked, I would have chosen "the" and then "that". Followed by "forgot" instead of "forget".

Originally Posted by kdg454

After several years of my calling and being told no, they fairly easily dropped my Pipeline (5mb) from $62.95/mo to $24.94/mo. I called just after the Belo uprising, and told them DISH offered me a promotion of SAT Internet for $29.95/mo + N/C installation. The Charter retention rep countered by telling me SAT cannot offer speeds of 5mb (which they cannot), but I told her the DISH rep told me it is exactly what I have now.

Mine is stand-alone also. The retention agent originally told me $29.95/mo, but when my statement posted last month, it was $5.00 less.

Hopefully [looking upward] the DSL switches will be here before the year is up, and I will be able to live out one of my lifelong dreams!

Originally Posted by DroptheRemote

Walt,

Yes, I think that's correct about the network -- though I can't even get AT&T DSL in my neighborhood. By the by, a customer told me last night that AT&T is REQUIRED to offer DSL to every home in Illinois by the end of 2007. Considering my Charter Pipeline continues to emulate a yo-yo (up and down at least two dozen times in the last 48 hours), I CAN'T WAIT.

On the other hand, I think you might be waiting quite a while for Verizon's FioS here, as it probably is only going to be available initially in markets where Verizon is the primary provider of local phone services. Running fiber to the home in a market that is effectively "owned" by AT&T doesn't seem like a recipe for timely return on investment.

Originally Posted by StLBluesFan

Fiber to the neighborhood for existing, fiber to the curb and often fiber to the premises for new construction, typical copper finishes the loop.

Verizon is running fiber to the house as much as possible and spending *considerably* more dollars and as a result depressing their stock price by comparison. AT&T is betting that technology improvements will allow for necessary bandwidth and speed without bringing fiber to the house. Investors seem to agree, for now.

In most areas the 2 telcos won't be competing against one another, but rather with cable and sat, and how the fiber is run by the incumbent telco is what you get.

Originally Posted by redwine

So for how long will Charter give you that price?

Originally Posted by T40T

I've been a DirecTV customer for about 8 years. I set up an appointment to have my dish swapped out for an HD one. They said the earliest they could give me an appointment is April 17!! WTF?!?!? Is that typical service? I think I've read here that their installers here in STL are terrible, but this is worse than I'd imagined. Six weeks just to hop up on my roof and change a dish out? It's making me think about switching to Dish, which I hear has better (less) compression, anyway.

Originally Posted by Mr_Bester

I was originally scheduled for an install March 15. The next day I got online and rescheduled for Feb 27. So, if you like DirecTV, you can try the reschedule online. Just make sure you call and they have the correct equipment on the work order.
Dug

Originally Posted by sandblaster

A condition of the merger with Bell South, AT&T must provide high speed internet to 100% of their service area by the end of 2007, so it's not just Illinois. However, that does not necessarily mean DSL via your existing phone lines. They will be allowed to provide high speed internet via satellite and/or wireless technology in addition to via phone line. I suspect that will be the solution for extreme rural areas. I believe the goal is to reach at least 80% via land line.

Originally Posted by DroptheRemote

Thanks for this clarification and various follow-ups.

It seems to me that the limitation of one simultaneous HD channel is going to be a deal-killer for a lot of people. This creates a major restriction in terms of time-shifting and makes a DVR significantly less useful that what can be accomplished with competitor products/services.

Originally Posted by DishTim

Paradise Valley Estates does NOT currently get DSL.

Originally Posted by Scott Tucker

Maybe they should call it Almost Paradise Estates.

Scott

Originally Posted by DishTim

If we could finally dump charter and get dsl it would truly be paradise.