St. Louis, MO - HDTV - Page 87

"Charter" + "negotiations" = lost channel

I thought the idea was to add channels and improve your product. I feel for those golf fans still with C*.

Glad I made the switch to E* last month and will be watching the Masters (and other tornaments) in HD instead of the "temporarily" out of service 4HD from Charter.

I don't think this was posted yet:

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6628342

ST. LOUIS CARDINALS HD SCHEDULE 2007

APRIL
1 Sunday 7:05PM Mets ESPN2HD [L 1-6]
3 Tuesday 7:10PM Mets FSNMW-HD [L 1-4]
4 Wednesday 7:10PM Mets ESPN2HD/FSNMW-HD* [L 0-10]
15 Sunday 1:15PM Brewers KSDK-DT [W 10-2]
21 Saturday 2:55PM @Cubs FOX/KTVI-DT** [L 0-6]
22 Sunday 1:20PM @Cubs KSDK-DT [W 12-9]
28 Saturday 2:55PM Cubs FOX/KTVI-DT** [L 1-8]
30 Monday 6:05PM @Brewers ESPNHD/FSN* [L 1-7]

MAY
1 Tuesday 7:10PM @Brewers FSNMW-HD [L 2-12]
4 Friday 7:10PM Astros FSNMW-HD [W 3-2]
5 Saturday 12:10 Astros FSNMW-HD [L 0-13]
6 Sunday 1:15PM Astros KSDK-DT [W 3-1]
15 Tuesday 9:10PM @Dodgers FSNMW-HD [L 4-5]
19 Saturday 6:05PM @Tigers FSNMW-HD [L 7-8]
20 Sunday 12:05PM @Tigers KSDK-DT [L 3-6]
27 Sunday 1:15PM Nationals KSDK-DT [L 2-7]

JUNE
1 Friday 7:05PM @Astros FSNMW-HD [W 8-1]
2 Saturday 2:55PM @Astros FOX/KTVI-DT** [L 3-8]
3 Sunday 1:05PM @Astros KSDK-DT [W 8-6]
8 Friday 7:10PM Angels FSNMW-HD [L 6-10]
9 Saturday 6:15PM Angels FSNMW-HD [L 3-9]
10 Sunday 1:15PM Angels KSDK-DT [W 9-6]
18 Monday 7:10 Royals FSNMW-HD [L 3-5]
23 Saturday 12:10PM Phillies KSDK-DT [W 8-2]
24 Sunday 1:15PM Phillies KSDK-DT [L 1-5]
25 Monday 6:10PM @Mets ESPN2HD/FSN* [ESPN2HD Blacked-Out] [L 1-2]
27 Wednesday 6:10PM @Mets ESPNHD/FSN* [L 0-2 / 6 innings/rain]

JULY
1 Sunday 12:15PM @Reds KSDK-DT [W 11-7]
2 Monday 7:10PM Diamondbacks FSNMW-HD [W 11-3]
3 Tuesday 7:10PM Diamondbacks FSNMW-HD [L 1-7]
4 Wednesday 6:15PM Diamondbacks FSNMW-HD [W 5-4]
5 Thursday 6:15PM Diamondbacks FSNMW-HD [W 3-2]
6 Friday 7:10PM Giants FSNMW-HD [L 3-4]
7 Saturday 6:15PM Giants FSNMW-HD [L 7-6]

8 Monday 7:00PM Home Run Derby @SF ESPNHD [Mr. Guerrero]
10 Tuesday 7:00PM All Star Game @SF FOX/KTVI-DT [AL 5 - NL 4]
2 outs, bases loaded, bottom 9th, 1-run game....how far down *your* list would Aaron Rowand be?

14 Saturday 2:55PM @Phillies FOX/KTVI-DT [L 4-10]
15 Sunday 5:05PM @Phillies ESPNHD [W 10-2]
20 Friday 6:35PM @Braves FSNMW-HD [W 4-2]
22 Sunday 7:05PM @Braves ESPNHD [W 7-2]
24 Tuesday 7:10PM Cubs FSNMW-HD [L 3-4]
25 Wednesday 7:10PM Cubs KSDK-DT [L 1-7]
26 Thursday 7:10PM Cubs FSNMW-HD [W 11-1]
27 Friday 7:10PM Brewers FSNMW-HD [L 2-12]
28 Saturday 7:10PM Brewers FSNMW-HD [W 5-2]
29 Sunday 1:15PM Brewers KSDK-DT [W 9-5]

AUGUST
6 Monday 7:10PM Padres ESPNHD/FSNMW-HD* [W 10-5]
7 Tuesday 7:10PM Padres FSNMW-HD [L 0-4]
8 Wednesday 7:10PM Padres FSNMW-HD [W 2-1]
9 Thursday 7:10PM Padres FSNMW-HD [W 5-0]
10 Friday 7:10PM Dodgers KSDK-DT [L 1-2]
11 Saturday 2:55PM Dodgers FOX/KTVI-DT [W 6-1]
12 Sunday 1:15PM Dodgers KSDK-DT [W 12-2]
18 Saturday 2:55PM @Cubs FOX/KTVI-DT [L 3-5]
19 Sunday TBD @Cubs KSDK-DT [PPD-Rain]
22 Wednesday 7:10PM Marlins FSNMW-HD W6-4]
23 Thursday 7:10PM Marlins FSNMW-HD [L 3-11]
24 Friday 7:10PM Braves FSNMW-HD [L 2-7]
25 Saturday 6:15PM Braves FSNMW-HD [W 5-4]
26 Sunday 1:15PM Braves KSDK-DT [W 4-1]

SEPTEMBER
1 Saturday 6:15PM Reds KSDK-DT [W 11-3]
2 Sunday 1:15PM Reds KSDK-DT [W 3-2]
4 Tuesday 7:10PM Pirates FSNMW-HD [W 6-2]
5 Wednesday 7:10PM Pirates FSNMW-HD [L 2-8]
15 Saturday 12:10 FSNMW-SD [L 2-3] and 7:10PM Cubs KSDK-DT HD [W 4-3]
---double header/makeup of rain PPD game 4/29)
16 Sunday 1:15PM Cubs KSDK-DT [L 2-4]
17 Monday 7:10PM Phillies FSNMW-HD [L 11-13]
18 Tuesday 7:10PM Phillies FSNMW-HD [L 4-7]
19 Wednesday 7:10PM Phillies FSNMW-HD [W 2-1]
20 Thursday 7:10PM Astros FSNMW-HD [L 1-18]
21 Friday 7:10PM Astros ESPNHD/FSNMW-HD* [L 3-6]
22 Saturday 6:15PM Astros KSDK-DT [W 7-4]
23 Sunday 7:05PM Astros ESPN-HD [W 4-3]

OCTOBER
Post Season

--[updated 6/17/07]--
FSNMW-HD - 35
FOX/KTVI-DT - 6
ESPNHD - 7 (2 also on FSNMW-HD/may blackout)
ESPN2HD - 2 (1 also FSNMW-HD/may blackout)
KSDK-DT - 23

Total HD - 73 (45%)

HD Record 34-37 (thru 9/23) .459

*Blackout may apply
**Uncertain if all FOX GOTW will be full resolution HD, or FOX Widescreen
All times are First-Pitch

Please PM me or Doug if any errors found

See ya next year!

That shouldn't affect us too much since I would imagine that they'll show the DEFENDING WORLD SERIES CHAMPS with one of their HD feeds each week

This news does seem odd, though, considering I am pretty sure that Fox showed more than 1-2 HD football games per week (when you combine the early/late games).

Quick question.... Anyone know why the MLB season opener is on ESPN 2? Why not ESPN? I know this doesn't matter for most of you (since you have a dish, which has ESPN 2 HD), but for those of us with Charter this is problematic.

But before you rub my face in it, remember that I'll see those 37 high def games on FSNMW

Checked again tonight: Stuttering KDNL.
Doug's right. Hate it when that happens...

NCAA Women's Basketball Finals on ESPN

Does this mean that Charter has broken the contract for anyone who signed for 1 year to get a better deal?

Walt

Just out of curiousity, what kind of TV/tuner are you using? Are you another Vizio/Olevia user?

Dean, thanks for posting the info. for games in HD! I printed the schedule.

same here

im really excited so far with E* vip622

wonder when the golf channel and speed will go HD!?

the golf channel is probably the worst pic quality on E*

definately notice a difference in pic quality all around
which i expected

but it is still great and fast menus

just wish my stereo was able to work through the E* remote

As it was last season on DISH, games aired on ESPN/ESPN2 and FSN, the ESPN airing will be blacked out in the STL DMA.
Wed, 4/4 is the first.

Ugggh.... damn that women's college basketball! I truly think that ESPN should always show the programming with the most widespread interest on ESPN, and the "other stuff" on ESPN 2. I would guarantee that the Cards/Mets game is going to get more viewers nationwide than the women's finals.

Ya, agree....
Cards Home Opener....Girls BB....Cards Home Opener....Girls BB...
That's a tough one.

it's probably a case of which contract came first.

For the playoff games you're referring to, it was actually a national ESPN/ESPN2 broadcast. All playoff games are nationally televised (and have exclusive rights to do so). Channel 11 wanted to make it available to the entire local market, so they negotiated with ESPN to simulcast the ESPN feed on channel 11. This is not an example of blackout/nonblackout. This is an example of Channel 11 tapping into ESPN's feed, so to speak.

dpmark: i'm the Olevia 537H guy who posted earlier. I'll post in the "new olevia models" thread and ask there, but I've gotten no response on a couple of other posts there.
barry

The MLB Playoffs this year will be a problem for HD-loving Cards fans that subscribe to Charter (assuming, of course, they make the playoffs), since TBS/TBS HD (the latter of which doesn't even exist nationally yet--ETA September 2007) has exclusive broadcast rights to the Division Series.

What are the odds that Charter will actually have that channel added in time for the playoffs?

About the same as the Cubs winning the World Series.

The Astros/Narveson game of 9/22/06 was a regular season game. It was carried on FSNMW and ESPN2HD. The ESPN2 broadcast was blacked-out to DISH customers. Interestingly enough, this season, the Cards have that same dated 4 game series with the Astros....but this year, it's at Busch

As will be the case again this season (regular season) for DISH customers....
Since FSNMW and KSDK have first rights, whenever a game is carried on ESPN or ESPN2 *and* on FSNMW/KSDK, the ESPN broadcast is always blacked-out to DISH customers. By league rule, this should be the case on DirecTV and Charter, but some have slipped through.

Both ESPN and FOX still have 2/each remaining "wild-card" dates, by which the league has provided them exclusivity, dates TBD. If chosen, either can take away 2/each broadcasts from FSNMW and KSDK.

BTW, we can't even get D* or E* to add FSNMW-HD, what's that say about Charter adding TBS-HD?

I have Charter, and I KNOW I watched it in HD, and I KNOW I was listening to ESPN broadcasters--so it had to be on ESPN (the mother station). Are you sure it was also on FSN MW? My pocket schedule from last year shows that it was only supposed to be on ESPN.

Honestly, I don't. If it was not, there definitely were 2-3 other regular season games that fell into this scenario....on DISH.

As I said earlier, neither of the ESPN/FSNMW tandem broadcasts on Charter, are blacked-out. DISH has their system set, so anytime there is a FSNMW or KSDK broadcast, any other broadcast is blacked-out. The only exception being when a local station pushes through another broadcast. An example being KPLR pushing through the ESPN2 playoff game(s) last season, so Charter subs could view it.

I do know, Wednesday's game on both ESPN2 and FSNMW....the ESPN game is blacked-out to DISH subs. The only view on DISH will be FSNMW-SD. MY EPG's goes 9 days ahead, and it won't set a timer for the ESPN channel...the blacked-out message pops-up, which means, it will be blacked-out. Same thing as last season.

If I wasn't so lazy, I could search back to when we discussed the very issue here, last season.

Here we go, no HD for the Final Four because of the storms.

So much for National coverage of the first Civil Rights Game.
You'd think, with 850 feeds, ESPN would have gone a tad further than just crossing their fingers, and hoping the BB game would be over.

Why is that? Both my feeds are up, SAT and OTA in HD

I take it back. I overreacted as soon as they put up the weather warning the first time. They are doing a good job of not inundating us with weather updates.

If I recall correctly, ESPN can overrule local blackouts for two games per team per year (or at least they could last year). This may have been one of those games.