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post #5671 of 12968
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Originally Posted by WRacer View Post

Check to see that the Toshiba is set to CC1. Some of the ABC programs have CC on 1 and 2, but all are on service 1.
Jim

Good suggestions, but the CC must be done by the E* receiver as the Toshiba seems unable to decode CC thru the HDMI port. The TV on TV2 does fine with CC because it does the decoding. Therefore, the E* receiver must be passing the data on. But when the E* receiver does the decoding I see this issue only with some ABC shows. I have not yet been able to duplicate this on any other channels.

It is set for CC1.
post #5672 of 12968
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

I you want to have both HD DVD and Blu-ray playback capability in a home theater PC, here's your drive:

HD DVD and Blu-ray Combo Drive.

I just ordered mine.

No burning.

Walt
post #5673 of 12968
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

I you want to have both HD DVD and Blu-ray playback capability in a home theater PC, here's your drive:

HD DVD and Blu-ray Combo Drive.

I just ordered mine.

I have been thinking of this as we have drywall going up next week in the basement. What would it take to output HD from a PC, feel to lazy for Google. I have a system with a Quad Core processor, 2 gigs of ram, with a Nvidia 7800 GT, still runing XP. Not sure what sound card it has, but it does 7.1 and has a digital output. I would assume I would just need some software to accomplish an HD output?

I have thought ahead on most items, as I have audio components arriving between today and next Tuesday. The black ceiling tiles have been on order for 2 weeks, already received my order of black Ceiling Max for the grid. Purchased cables and wall plates from Monoprice, and have prewired all speakers and HDMI for the projector. The wife and I are going shopping for 2 rows of seating on Saturday, along with looking at paint and carpet colors.

Still not set on the projector, been waiting on the reviews of the new 1080p's released in the last several weeks. Top on my list is the Mits HC 6000, although I will be stretching the budget a bit, I saved enough on the audio equipment to make this possible. The screen will be a Dalite HP @ 119" 16X9. The room is just shy of 11'X24' with a ceiling height of 89"-90" when finished. I will be building a 12" riser for the second row of seating also.
LL
post #5674 of 12968
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Originally Posted by aspec2 View Post

No burning.

Walt

The Blu-ray burner version of this drive should be out shortly. No HD DVD burner option, though.
post #5675 of 12968
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Originally Posted by tstolze View Post

I have been thinking of this as we have drywall going up next week in the basement. What would it take to output HD from a PC, feel to lazy for Google. I have a system with a Quad Core processor, 2 gigs of ram, with a Nvidia 7800 GT, still runing XP. Not sure what sound card it has, but it does 7.1 and has a digital output. I would assume I would just need some software to accomplish an HD output?

I have thought ahead on most items, as I have audio components arriving between today and next Tuesday. The black ceiling tiles have been on order for 2 weeks, already received my order of black Ceiling Max for the grid. Purchased cables and wall plates from Monoprice, and have prewired all speakers and HDMI for the projector. The wife and I are going shopping for 2 rows of seating on Saturday, along with looking at paint and carpet colors.

Still not set on the projector, been waiting on the reviews of the new 1080p's released in the last several weeks. Top on my list is the Mits HC 6000, although I will be stretching the budget a bit, I saved enough on the audio equipment to make this possible. The screen will be a Dalite HP @ 119" 16X9. The room is just shy of 11'X24' with a ceiling height of 89"-90" when finished. I will be building a 12" riser for the second row of seating also.

Great project! Sounds as though you have most of what you need for HD out from the PC already. You'll need software such as PowerDVD Ultra and, maybe, AnyDVD HD, and the LG drive. That's probably all you need to do Blu-ray and HD DVD playback on your powerful PC.
post #5676 of 12968
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Originally Posted by tstolze View Post

I have been thinking of this as we have drywall going up next week in the basement. What would it take to output HD from a PC, feel to lazy for Google. I have a system with a Quad Core processor, 2 gigs of ram, with a Nvidia 7800 GT, still runing XP. Not sure what sound card it has, but it does 7.1 and has a digital output. I would assume I would just need some software to accomplish an HD output?

I have thought ahead on most items, as I have audio components arriving between today and next Tuesday. The black ceiling tiles have been on order for 2 weeks, already received my order of black Ceiling Max for the grid. Purchased cables and wall plates from Monoprice, and have prewired all speakers and HDMI for the projector. The wife and I are going shopping for 2 rows of seating on Saturday, along with looking at paint and carpet colors.

Still not set on the projector, been waiting on the reviews of the new 1080p's released in the last several weeks. Top on my list is the Mits HC 6000, although I will be stretching the budget a bit, I saved enough on the audio equipment to make this possible. The screen will be a Dalite HP @ 119" 16X9. The room is just shy of 11'X24' with a ceiling height of 89"-90" when finished. I will be building a 12" riser for the second row of seating also.

I don't know about your video card, but it needs to be HDCP compliant. Beyond that, I think you're good to go. (I don't know this from personal experience, more from my own half hearted research) Someone else may be more insightful...
post #5677 of 12968
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Originally Posted by Mr_Bester View Post

I don't know about your video card, but it needs to be HDCP compliant. Beyond that, I think you're good to go. (I don't know this from personal experience, more from my own half hearted research) Someone else may be more insightful...

Even if a video card is not HDCP compliant, AnyDVD HD will allow you to use it in such a setup.
post #5678 of 12968
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Even if a video card is not HDCP compliant, AnyDVD HD will allow you to use it in such a setup.

Thanks!

The project was supposed to "start" last January, but the wife had some family issues that set us back a few months(okay almost a year). I can't wait for my Denon 3808 to arrive!
post #5679 of 12968
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Originally Posted by tstolze View Post

Thanks!

The project was supposed to "start" last January, but the wife had some family issues that set us back a few months(okay almost a year). I can't wait for my Denon 3808 to arrive!

That's my new receiver. I'm ordering it today from AVS. Where did you get yours? I love the Denon sound. I've owned the 3801 and the 3805. (They're for sale, by the way, as soon as the 3808 is hooked up. If anyone's interested, PM me.)
post #5680 of 12968
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

That's my new receiver. I'm ordering it today from AVS. Where did you get yours? I love the Denon sound. I've owned the 3801 and the 3805. (They're for sale, by the way, as soon as the 3808 is hooked up. If anyone's interested, PM me.)

Hopefully no one shoots me. I purchased all the audio on Ebay. I was able to get alot more for my money. I only dealt with sellers with 99%+ feedback. I figure I saved over $1000 on the audio system alone. My 4 surrounds will arrive today, receiver and fronts on Monday, sub and center on Tuesday.
post #5681 of 12968
I believe I am in the market for a simple pre-amp upgrade. I am hoping to get some recommendations.

Here's the facts:

I can pick all the channels great..except Fox. I get cut-outs all the time. "Weak or now signal" says my screen. The signal bars seem to never steady out.

I currently am using an old attic antenna that was already in the house when I moved in.

Prepare to cringe: I use a cheapy Wal-Mart bought pre-amp (I think its a 5 or 10db Phillips one)

I'd hate to move the attic antenna...it kind of hard to get up in the attic and I am not for sure if moving it really going to make the difference. Would it really make a significant difference if I raised it? We are only talking about going up maybe 3 feet or so. I'm sure that would make a difference outside, but in an attic?

I also hate to move it since I am getting everything else fine.

Would it be logical then to invest in a better pre-amp? The cable run has got to be at least 50 feet, plus its in an attic, so an amp is necessary, but they are downplayed so much on this and other forums, I'm not for sure who to believe in regards to pre-amps. It's like there's a cult of pre-amp nazis or something.

I'm hoping to spend less than $50.
post #5682 of 12968
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Originally Posted by Left Jeff View Post

I believe I am in the market for a simple pre-amp upgrade. I am hoping to get some recommendations.

Here's the facts:

I can pick all the channels great..except Fox. I get cut-outs all the time. "Weak or now signal" says my screen. The signal bars seem to never steady out.

I currently am using an old attic antenna that was already in the house when I moved in.

Prepare to cringe: I use a cheapy Wal-Mart bought pre-amp (I think its a 5 or 10db Phillips one)

I'd hate to move the attic antenna...it kind of hard to get up in the attic and I am not for sure if moving it really going to make the difference. Would it really make a significant difference if I raised it? We are only talking about going up maybe 3 feet or so. I'm sure that would make a difference outside, but in an attic?

I also hate to move it since I am getting everything else fine.

Would it be logical then to invest in a better pre-amp? The cable run has got to be at least 50 feet, plus its in an attic, so an amp is necessary, but they are downplayed so much on this and other forums, I'm not for sure who to believe in regards to pre-amps. It's like there's a cult of pre-amp nazis or something.

I'm hoping to spend less than $50.

Jeff,
The "5-10db Phillips" you have....where is it located in your system?
FWIW, my pre-amp makes the difference in receiving all the channels (@55mi), or no reception with it turned off. Definitely works.
post #5683 of 12968
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Originally Posted by kdg454 View Post

Jeff,
The "5-10db Phillips" you have....where is it located in your system?
FWIW, my pre-amp makes the difference in receiving all the channels (@55mi), or no reception with it turned off. Definitely works.

I found it on Amazon...it's 24db split for two outputs (so 12db x 2).

http://www.amazon.com/24DB-Dual-Outp...2808779&sr=1-8



I know its not in the optimal place...I know it's supposed to be as close to the antenna as possible, but it's not. It's behind the TV.
post #5684 of 12968
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Originally Posted by Left Jeff View Post

I found it on Amazon...it's 24db split for two outputs (so 12db x 2).

http://www.amazon.com/24DB-Dual-Outp...2808779&sr=1-8



I know its not in the optimal place...I know it's supposed to be as close to the antenna as possible, but it's not. It's behind the TV.

Link didn't work I searched the description...is it one of the Phillips with a A/C power cord attached to it? If so, that is an line-booster amp, and not a pre-amp.

That may be the problem, if it is an actual pre-amp, and not an in-line amp line booster, it must be located between the antenna balun and the beginning of the cable drop into the house. Pre-amps do require power. 24v which is backfed to them through the coax.

Pre-amps boost the signal from the antenna into the home, and in-line booster amps maintain the signal along extended runs inside the home.
Having a in-line booster amp, behind your TV, will do nothing to increase the db gain from your antenna to your TV. Actually, if it's at the end of the 50' run, it's doing nothing at all.

Here's a link to some different pre amps...the ones shown mounted on a antenna mast are pre amps:
http://www.solidsignal.com/manu_disp...&manu=Winegard
For Edwardsville, the AP4700 or AP4800 should work fine. I use a AP8800 here.
post #5685 of 12968
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Originally Posted by kdg454 View Post

Link didn't work I searched the description...is it one of the Phillips with a A/C power cord attached to it? If so, that is an line-booster amp, and not a pre-amp.

That may be the problem, if it is an actual pre-amp, and not an in-line amp line booster, it must be located between the antenna balun and the beginning of the cable drop into the house. Pre-amps do require power. 24v which is backfed to them through the coax.

Pre-amps boost the signal from the antenna into the home, and in-line booster amps maintain the signal along extended runs inside the home.
Having a in-line booster amp, behind your TV, will do nothing to increase the db gain from your antenna to your TV. Actually, if it's at the end of the 50' run, it's doing nothing at all.

Here's a link to some different pre amps...the ones shown mounted on a antenna mast are pre amps:
http://www.solidsignal.com/manu_disp...&manu=Winegard
For Edwardsville, the AP4700 or AP4800 should work fine. I use a AP8800 here.

thanks for the help.

well it does something because before I purchased it, I could only get 4 and 5. Now i get all of them. So its doing something!

I'll look into those links.
post #5686 of 12968
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Originally Posted by Left Jeff View Post

thanks for the help.

well it does something because before I purchased it, I could only get 4 and 5. Now i get all of them. So its doing something!

I'll look into those links.

If it is a in-line amp booster, strange as it may sound, it is probably picking up some additional gain by being connected into your household A/C current.
The actual "boost" it is creating is between the output port of the amp and the input port on your receiver...that 3' or so piece of coax. A in-line amp can only maintain the gain it receives, it cannot boost it higher.

I really think a moderate pre-amp will resolve the issue, and give you better reception overall.
Any more ??'s give a yell
post #5687 of 12968
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

I you want to have both HD DVD and Blu-ray playback capability in a home theater PC, here's your drive:

HD DVD and Blu-ray Combo Drive.

I just ordered mine.

Joe,

Do you know the outlook on a free-standing combo Blu-ray/HD DVD player, and/or burner? Something under $500...anytime soon?
post #5688 of 12968
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Originally Posted by kdg454 View Post

Joe,

Do you know the outlook on a free-standing combo Blu-ray/HD DVD player, and/or burner? Something under $500...anytime soon?

As far as I know, LG has one and Samsung plans one soon. The LG drive, though, is about $800. Nothing that I've heard of is expected soon in that price range. You could probably put together a PC with the new LG PC drive for about $800, maybe a wee bit more.
post #5689 of 12968
HD Sports guide lists the Mizzou game on ABC as 720P and it's in SD anybody know why, can we make a call?
post #5690 of 12968
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Originally Posted by duvy56 View Post

HD Sports guide lists the Mizzou game on ABC as 720P and it's in SD anybody know why, can we make a call?

You could search on Wracer user name. Jim has posted his pager number several times. Sorry, I don't have it but you should be able to find it in his posts or profile.

EDIT: Here it is:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post10144909
post #5691 of 12968
Not saying that the listing you saw didn't say in HD but that would be not the norm.

A regional ABC game is always SD, the national game (this week Michigan @ Illinois) will be in HD.

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/abcs...1020_330pm.jpg

Edit: Checking out the HD Sports guide you were refering to, and more than likely what your seeing is the underlying transmission specs of the network itself, not necessarily the individual game. It is misleading.
post #5692 of 12968
Hi,

I live in the Denver area and am a member of the Denver AVS forum. My mother-in-law lives in Owensville, MO (west of St. Louis) and I am curious if all of the St. Louis dtv channels are at full power now. She lives in a senior center (apartments) with a common antenna at 40' (all tenants use if they are not on cable). She says she gets 2 & 11 regular with 'whatever' antenna is up on the tower. The others (such as 4, 5, etc) come in early mornings and evenings. Just curious about the current dtv status in St. Louis. Thanks!

JimT
Colorado
post #5693 of 12968
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Originally Posted by kdg454 View Post

You could search on Wracer user name. Jim has posted his pager number several times. Sorry, I don't have it but you should be able to find it in his posts or profile.

EDIT: Here it is:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post10144909

Hey, Ken,

Do you happen to know if the Dish 625 is a name based SD DVR or a time based DVR? My parents are finally willing to move from their 510 to a dual tuner, but I want to make sure they can get name based recording with that model.

BTW, I got that power supply tester I was talking about, so if you need one tested, let me know.
post #5694 of 12968
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Hey, Ken,

Do you happen to know if the Dish 625 is a name based SD DVR or a time based DVR? My parents are finally willing to move from their 510 to a dual tuner, but I want to make sure they can get name based recording with that model.

BTW, I got that power supply tester I was talking about, so if you need one tested, let me know.

Name based. The 625 is basically the SD version of the 622. The one added feature the 625 has is, its capability to reverse back 2 hours into a live event for the purpose of recording it from the beginning....the 622 only 1 hour. I'm not sure, but I suppose that means the 625 has 2 hour buffers.
Both the 622 and 625 run the same software, currently L4.60. The user integration is identical on both.
Receiver info here:
http://rweb.echostar.com/departmenta...iver/625.shtml

Does the power supply tester test mobo's? That's what fried on her Gateway. I gave her a Dell desktop we're not using, to replace the Gateway I gave her. Well....we're recycling, ya?
post #5695 of 12968
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Originally Posted by kdg454 View Post

Name based. The 625 is basically the SD version of the 622. The one added feature the 625 has is, its capability to reverse back 2 hours into a live event for the purpose of recording it from the beginning....the 622 only 1 hour. I'm not sure, but I suppose that means the 625 has 2 hour buffers.
Both the 622 and 625 run the same software, currently L4.60. The user integration is identical on both.
Receiver info here:
http://rweb.echostar.com/departmenta...iver/625.shtml

Does the power supply tester test mobo's? That's what fried on her Gateway. I gave her a Dell desktop we're not using, to replace the Gateway I gave her. Well....we're recycling, ya?

Thanks, Ken. I'm assuming the 625 doesn't have an OTA tuner, right? I'd like to talk them into doing HD, but my mom insists she wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I told her I could teach her to see it, but she said, "Why would I want that?" Hard to argue with that logic.

I'm not aware of a mobo tester. I imagine the companies have them for their own models, but the possibilities would be too daunting for any single device to be able to test all mobo features from the different manufacturers.
post #5696 of 12968
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

Thanks, Ken. I'm assuming the 625 doesn't have an OTA tuner, right? I'd like to talk them into doing HD, but my mom insists she wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I told her I could teach her to see it, but she said, "Why would I want that?" Hard to argue with that logic.

I'm not aware of a mobo tester. I imagine the companies have them for their own models, but the possibilities would be too daunting for any single device to be able to test all mobo features from the different manufacturers.

Nope, no OTA...I'd guess E* didn't feel putting a ATSC tuner into a SD receiver made sense.

Showing Mom how to use a 625 is the same as showing her how to use a 622. Even it you do connect OTA to the 622, it just integrates into the EPG.

FWIW, my wife said exactly the same thing..."I'll never notice the difference between SD and HD ['normal TV and digital TV were her exact words']. Now, a couple of years later, she immediately notices when a supposed-to-be HD program is in SD.
From the other room, I hear, "S&*x**", I say "what," she says, "those jerks didn't flip the switch for CSI again!"

Hard to argue with that logic
post #5697 of 12968
I wasn't talking about an HD OTA tuner, but I suppose and SD OTA tuner would require an MPEG encoder to work and would involve too much extra hardware. I haven't stayed up on the SD side of things for a very long time.
post #5698 of 12968
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Originally Posted by mrradiohead View Post

Hi,

I live in the Denver area and am a member of the Denver AVS forum. My mother-in-law lives in Owensville, MO (west of St. Louis) and I am curious if all of the St. Louis dtv channels are at full power now. She lives in a senior center (apartments) with a common antenna at 40' (all tenants use if they are not on cable). She says she gets 2 & 11 regular with 'whatever' antenna is up on the tower. The others (such as 4, 5, etc) come in early mornings and evenings. Just curious about the current dtv status in St. Louis. Thanks!

JimT
Colorado

She is pretty far out of St Louis, so I'm not sure if she'll do much better. It's possible that the community antenna needs to be aimed a little better. Plus, I imaging it's a VHF and UHF antenna which is probably hurting things to.

Mainly, I don't have much to add, but thought I'd bump your question.
post #5699 of 12968
Thread Starter 
Jim,

To the best of my knowledge, all of the STL digitals are at full power. This has been an FCC requirement for at least a couple of years now. I recall reading here that the local PBS station (KETC) was at one point disputing the power requirement on the grounds that the additional power resulted in very little additional coverage and therefore wasn't cost-justifiable. Maybe someone here has a better memory of the details.

Apart from KETC, I know of no filings for exemption on full power. Of course, that doesn't mean that what's required is happening, but there's nothing in terms of widespread reception issues to indicate that any of the STL digital stations are running significantly below the requirements.

Sometimes stations will drop power when doing maintenance, but that should only be a short-term matter.

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Originally Posted by mrradiohead View Post

Hi,

I live in the Denver area and am a member of the Denver AVS forum. My mother-in-law lives in Owensville, MO (west of St. Louis) and I am curious if all of the St. Louis dtv channels are at full power now. She lives in a senior center (apartments) with a common antenna at 40' (all tenants use if they are not on cable). She says she gets 2 & 11 regular with 'whatever' antenna is up on the tower. The others (such as 4, 5, etc) come in early mornings and evenings. Just curious about the current dtv status in St. Louis. Thanks!

JimT
Colorado
post #5700 of 12968
Thread Starter 
Anyone here been having reception issues with KSDK in recent days? I watched the Saturday night re-run of "Chuck," as it had scrolled out of my TiVo queue earlier in the week while I was out of town. There were probably two dozen brief break-ups during the Saturday night episode, with most of them coming in the last half hour.

I've had intermittent reception problems with kSDk in the past, and I figure it's most likely a recurrence of those issues, particularly as this is about the time of the year they've happened in the past.

I think my antenna might need to be re-aimed, but thought I'd post here and see if anyone else was having a similar problem first. I'm just looking for an excuse not to go into the attic...

BTW, I've watched all the episodes of "Chuck" so far and it's pretty decent. However, I'm thinking it doesn't have much chance of surviving due to the inclusion of Adam Baldwin in the cast. The guy was stellar as Jayne in "Firefly" and was also alright in "Daybreak," but both of those series were prematurely axed ("Daybreak" was originally devised as only a 12-episode filler between the last year's mini-seasons of "Lost" and didn't even manage to last that long).

I suspect the same fate awaits "Chuck," and it will be all AB's fault...
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