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post #7201 of 8544
why can't these channels (hd clear QAM) be tuned manually? IE 4-1, 7-1, etc. Thanks
post #7202 of 8544
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Originally Posted by Gt1racer View Post

Effective June 1st (in Massachusetts - Transitioned Areas)

MLB HD changing to 914

Planet Green HD changing to 911

TV One HD changing to 912

NBA HD to 913

Same message was on my bill in Hanson.
post #7203 of 8544
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Originally Posted by kenvt View Post

rescan and they will be back...for now anyway....

I'm still running into problems, at least with Fox 25.1. I set up Windows Media Center to record it last night, but it complained that there was "no signal." When I tuned it in manually (via the "Live TV" option), it said it was scrambled. I changed channels up and down and back to 25.1, and it came in just fine and I was able to watch it.

I did already rescan last week, and did it again this morning, but I don't understand why it's being reported as "scrambled." Also, how does rescanning help? I can understand rescanning if Comcast is moving frequencies, but why the "scrambled" messages? And how would simply changing channels get around the problem?

I wish I could call Comcast and get an answer, but as I noted earlier in this thread, I already tried that and got nowhere.
post #7204 of 8544
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Originally Posted by mlaird View Post

I'm still running into problems, at least with Fox 25.1. I set up Windows Media Center to record it last night, but it complained that there was "no signal." When I tuned it in manually (via the "Live TV" option), it said it was scrambled. I changed channels up and down and back to 25.1, and it came in just fine and I was able to watch it.

I did already rescan last week, and did it again this morning, but I don't understand why it's being reported as "scrambled." Also, how does rescanning help? I can understand rescanning if Comcast is moving frequencies, but why the "scrambled" messages? And how would simply changing channels get around the problem?

I wish I could call Comcast and get an answer, but as I noted earlier in this thread, I already tried that and got nowhere.

I wonder if that's a tuner problem..... ?
post #7205 of 8544
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Originally Posted by mlaird View Post

I'm still running into problems, at least with Fox 25.1. I set up Windows Media Center to record it last night, but it complained that there was "no signal." When I tuned it in manually (via the "Live TV" option), it said it was scrambled. I changed channels up and down and back to 25.1, and it came in just fine and I was able to watch it.

I did already rescan last week, and did it again this morning, but I don't understand why it's being reported as "scrambled." Also, how does rescanning help? I can understand rescanning if Comcast is moving frequencies, but why the "scrambled" messages? And how would simply changing channels get around the problem?

I wish I could call Comcast and get an answer, but as I noted earlier in this thread, I already tried that and got nowhere.

Okay, I just tried a few things, and I'm getting concerned. I just tried tuning in WCVB 5.1 with my TV; it works fine. I just tried tuning in 5.1 with Windows Media Center; it works fine. I hit the record button to record the show -- BOOM -- screen goes blue and reads, "Service is unavailable." Recording doesn't work any more!

Any ideas why? I'm running Windows 7 Media Center with a Hauppauge 2250 dual QAM tuner card. It has been a great setup until last week or so, letting me record two programs at once to watch later at my leisure.
post #7206 of 8544
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Originally Posted by mlaird View Post

Okay, I just tried a few things, and I'm getting concerned. I just tried tuning in WCVB 5.1 with my TV; it works fine. I just tried tuning in 5.1 with Windows Media Center; it works fine. I hit the record button to record the show -- BOOM -- screen goes blue and reads, "Service is unavailable." Recording doesn't work any more!

Any ideas why? I'm running Windows 7 Media Center with a Hauppauge 2250 dual QAM tuner card. It has been a great setup until last week or so, letting me record two programs at once to watch later at my leisure.

Makes me wonder if driver problem - perhaps re-install drivers?
post #7207 of 8544
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Originally Posted by mlaird View Post

Okay, I just tried a few things, and I'm getting concerned. I just tried tuning in WCVB 5.1 with my TV; it works fine. I just tried tuning in 5.1 with Windows Media Center; it works fine. I hit the record button to record the show -- BOOM -- screen goes blue and reads, "Service is unavailable." Recording doesn't work any more!

Any ideas why? I'm running Windows 7 Media Center with a Hauppauge 2250 dual QAM tuner card. It has been a great setup until last week or so, letting me record two programs at once to watch later at my leisure.

you might have to try a different program instead of WMC

Does WinTV 6/7 give you any problems when you record?
post #7208 of 8544
My Clear QAM channels were gone today in Rehoboth..... Bristol County
I plan to try a rescan when I get home. Looks like i may have to sell my HDHomerun and wait for the one with cable card support.
post #7209 of 8544
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Originally Posted by sonicdoommario View Post

This means channels 815-818 will be vacant. Hopefully, in Bristol County, this signifies the return of WFXT HD and WLVI HD, and then we can be all one happy family again. ..

not really, they will be adding telefutura and univision in HD + nh prime hd channel between 815-818.
post #7210 of 8544
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Originally Posted by BLMN View Post

not really, they will be adding telefutura and univision in HD + nh prime hd channel between 815-818.

So that means 816 will be WGBX-DT for Bristol County.
post #7211 of 8544
Is anyone else not getting USA HD? This channel has been coming up blank with the message "the channel will be available shortly" for the past few days. The SD version comes in though.
post #7212 of 8544
USA HD, channel 835 is ok in S. NH
post #7213 of 8544
I wish WGN America was available in Southeastern Massachusetts.
post #7214 of 8544
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Originally Posted by robla64 View Post

My Clear QAM channels were gone today in Rehoboth..... Bristol County
I plan to try a rescan when I get home. Looks like i may have to sell my HDHomerun and wait for the one with cable card support.

Same in Milford Ma. Rescanned with a Pioneer and Samsung and only finding 4,5,7,25,38,56. Wonder if there scrambled for good ?
post #7215 of 8544
Doing a rescan now, but it doesn't look good for anything but 2-13....
post #7216 of 8544
Hey Folks...... it looks like Commiecast is trying to force everybody to buy their boxes by defeating the Clear Qam tuners. It seems to have started a week or so ago in the Hingham, MA area. The first step was to change the channel numbers and mess with the Qam tuners . This last step seems to have scrambled everything except the major networks.
THIS SUCKS!!! Has anybody come up with a workaround or are we ALL SOL??

Tanx!!

Bohanna
post #7217 of 8544
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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

Hey Folks...... it looks like Commiecast is trying to force everybody to buy their boxes by defeating the Clear Qam tuners. It seems to have started a week or so ago in the Hingham, MA area. The first step was to change the channel numbers and mess with the Qam tuners . This last step seems to have scrambled everything except the major networks.
THIS SUCKS!!! Has anybody come up with a workaround or are we ALL SOL??

Tanx!!

Bohanna

Can we start a rule that all new forum readers read older posts BEFORE they post ? This is about the oldest news known to man. Comcast at some point is encrypting the "extended basic" channels.The only channels you will get on the QAM tuner will be local and a few others and thats it.

PLEASE READ THE FORUM BEFORE POSTING !!!!! OLD NEWS !!!!!

-Ken

P.S. QAM still in the clear here in Chelmsford
post #7218 of 8544
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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

Hey Folks...... it looks like Commiecast is trying to force everybody to buy their boxes by defeating the Clear Qam tuners. It seems to have started a week or so ago in the Hingham, MA area. The first step was to change the channel numbers and mess with the Qam tuners . This last step seems to have scrambled everything except the major networks.
THIS SUCKS!!! Has anybody come up with a workaround or are we ALL SOL??

Tanx!!

Bohanna

This was already explained to you in this topic last week, in reply to your questions. There is no workaround. Except for local, gov, edu, public service, and a few other channels, everything will be encrypted.

DBS providers have encrypted all channels since they opened up shop. At least Comcast has some channels, including local HD, in the clear.
post #7219 of 8544
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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

This was already explained to you in this topic last week, in reply to your questions. There is no workaround. Except for local, gov, edu, public service, and a few other channels, everything will be encrypted.

DBS providers have encrypted all channels since they opened up shop. At least Comcast has some channels, including local HD, in the clear.

It seems like the first thing people are advised to do is rescan. My post was pointing out that ALL the rescanning in the world will not change that because Commiecast has rampted up thier encryption. Since there are over 240 pages in this thread I don't beleive that anybody is going to read through them But hey,,, maybe I'm wrong. I'm just curious but What difference does it make that other providers have done encryption since they have opened up shop?? Your post seems to imply that the commiecast encryption is actually a good thing since they are the lesser of the two evils. I beleive that BY LAW Commiecast has to broadcast the local channels in digital format unencripted. So they are not doing us any favors. There may be some legal issues with people who are locked into long term contracts that are now dealing with a change in service since they signed the contracts. The legal term for that is bait and switch. ALso since most information in forums on the net is suspect excuse me for not taking something that was explained to ME a week ago as Gospel. - Bohanna
post #7220 of 8544
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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

It seems like the first thing people are advised to do is rescan. My post was pointing out that ALL the rescanning in the world will not change that because Commiecast has rampted up thier encryption.

And the point Ken was making is that Comcast is now following the industry standard. Your posting disparaging comments about them without acknowledging and accepting that this is the way everyone else already operates, and without acknowledging and accepting that Comcast kept cable networks unencrypted longer than the rest of their competitors, indicates that you're either not reading or not understanding the messages that you're replying to. Peppering your comments with childish respellings of the company's name just underscores the lack of serious intent in your message. This is a serious forum for folks who are aiming to help each other get the most out of the available options, not for puerile purposes.

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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

Since there are over 240 pages in this thread I don't beleive that anybody is going to read through them But hey,,, maybe I'm wrong.

It is not responsible conduct to jump into any forum anywhere without reading at least a week or so. You can do that by just lurking for a week before you post, or you can read back a week's worth of messages.

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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

I'm just curious but What difference does it make that other providers have done encryption since they have opened up shop??

It demonstrates the vacuous nature of your criticisms of Comcast in particular.

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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

Your post seems to imply that the commiecast encryption is actually a good thing since they are the lesser of the two evils.

Rather, Ken's comments indicate that Comcast has been better than the rest, and now they're becoming the same as the rest, in this regard that you're focusing on. Contrast that with what you tried to project, that Comcast was in some way becoming evil.

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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

There may be some legal issues with people who are locked into long term contracts that are now dealing with a change in service since they signed the contracts.

The contracts all contained provisions to address this kind of situation.

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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

The legal term for that is bait and switch.

You have no idea what you're talking about. There is no bait and switch here. If you think there is, then get an Attorney General to file charges, and come back after they court case has been been completed, and report the results. I'm sure you'll be shocked to learn that there was no bait and switch.
post #7221 of 8544
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Originally Posted by Gt1racer View Post

I wish WGN America was available in Southeastern Massachusetts.

FIOS has it Ch 568
post #7222 of 8544
I've been finding WGN America to be pretty flaky ... lots of pixelization, drop-outs, etc. So you're not missing much AFAIC.
post #7223 of 8544
bicker 1 wrote >>>And the point Ken was making is that Comcast is now following the industry standard. Your posting disparaging comments about them without acknowledging and accepting that this is the way everyone else already operates, and without acknowledging and accepting that Comcast kept cable networks unencrypted longer than the rest of their competitors, indicates that you're either not reading or not understanding the messages that you're replying to. Peppering your comments with childish respellings of the company's name just underscores the lack of serious intent in your message. This is a serious forum for folks who are aiming to help each other get the most out of the available options, not for puerile purposes.<<<<

Industry standard ?? Are you serious?? Most of the sets made WORLDWIDE have built in cable tuners. If you call LOBBYING to make laws that fit into a business plan that renders the millions of tuners useless industry standards than it is you who have no clue. You may consider my comments childish but I’m sure that many who are reading them are in aggrement. We just got screwed! Plain and simple. For some reason my muiliple quote button is not working out for me so I will have to find another way to compensate..
post #7224 of 8544
However, as warned, all other channels other than local and government are gone.

Comcast is within their rights to do whatever they want (within regulations), but the fact remains that you must now use their equipment (and junky remotes) to watch all but the simplest programming. We never needed that with a 'cable ready' tv before.

I simply want a tv hanging pretty on the bedroom (or kitchen) wall without wires, boxes, shelves or components.

All of this restructuring will only serve to drive customers to the internet.
post #7225 of 8544
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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

Industry standard ?? Are you serious??

Absolutely serious. Why would you ask that?

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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

Most of the sets made WORLDWIDE have built in cable tuners.

They're described by the manufacturers, when they're even mentioned, as "clear QAM" tuners, not QAM tuners for encrypted programming. They're not intended for encrypted services. They never were. You're simply wrong about that.

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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

If you call LOBBYING to make laws that fit into a business plan that renders the millions of tuners useless industry standards than it is you who have no clue.

You don't like the reality. That's not my fault. These companies did nothing wrong. You just don't like what they did. You truly would be better off getting over it.

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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

You may consider my comments childish

The name of the company is Comcast. Representing it any other way, because you're frustrated and want to lash out, is assuredly immature. I'm not sure how you could claim otherwise.

Stewing over this is not going to serve you or anyone else. If you really feel that they did something wrong, then do as I suggested and pursue your case and prove it. Otherwise, accept that our society condones what they've done, that it is in accordance with our society's principles and expectations, and that your own are applicable only to your own actions, i.e., your decision whether to engage their service or not. Our own personal preferences, such as those you've expressed so boldly, don't apply to others.
post #7226 of 8544
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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

It seems like the first thing people are advised to do is rescan.

For local channels only.

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My post was pointing out that ALL the rescanning in the world will not change that because Commiecast has rampted up thier encryption.

And you were already told this was the case and was not going to change.

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Since there are over 240 pages in this thread I don't beleive that anybody is going to read through them But hey,,, maybe I'm wrong.

No one suggested that. I said you already asked and got a specific answer, the last time you posted in this topic, which can be found on the page just before this one. It doesn't seem like a lot to expect someone to at least read the replies to the question they ask.

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I'm just curious but What difference does it make that other providers have done encryption since they have opened up shop?? Your post seems to imply that the commiecast encryption is actually a good thing since they are the lesser of the two evils.

Since they at least offer some in the clear, they are a better solution in that respect.

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I beleive that BY LAW Commiecast has to broadcast the local channels in digital format unencripted. So they are not doing us any favors.

The fact they have at least some channels you don't need a box for is better for consumers than using a DBS provider and needing a box for every TV.

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There may be some legal issues with people who are locked into long term contracts that are now dealing with a change in service since they signed the contracts. The legal term for that is bait and switch.

You are confused about this. Comcast is in full compliance with all regualtions regarding encrypting channels.

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ALso since most information in forums on the net is suspect excuse me for not taking something that was explained to ME a week ago as Gospel. - Bohanna

Then why did you bother to ask the question here?
post #7227 of 8544
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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

Industry standard ?? Are you serious?? Most of the sets made WORLDWIDE have built in cable tuners. If you call LOBBYING to make laws that fit into a business plan that renders the millions of tuners useless industry standards than it is you who have no clue. You may consider my comments childish but I'm sure that many who are reading them are in aggrement. We just got screwed! Plain and simple. For some reason my muiliple quote button is not working out for me so I will have to find another way to compensate..

How it got to be the industry standard is sort of beside the point. My expensive, state of the art, rooftop antenna that rotated to get channels from 3 states is also useless.
Maybe people on this forum are in agreement about getting screwed. But in my relatively short time here, it appears that this is not the "I've been screwed by Comcast" forum. It's more of the "what's coming down the road" & "what do I do now" forum.
And "Commiecast" does sound childish. And probably unintentionally ironic, since I don't think the actual Commies would let a private corporate behemoth run roughshod over the people in the way you describe.
post #7228 of 8544
You don't need to rent their box to receive the encrypted channels. You can buy a device that supports cable cards. Personally, I prefer the Series 3 TiVos. If you buy a TiVo with lifetime service, you'll have no monthly fees. You'll have a DVR that is FAR superior to the Comcast/Motorola boxes, and you won't be renting any equipment from the cable company.

(One cable card is included in most packages - additional cards are generally around $6-7 per month - charged as "digital access")
post #7229 of 8544
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Originally Posted by wackymann View Post

You don't need to rent their box to receive the encrypted channels. You can buy a device that supports cable cards. Personally, I prefer the Series 3 TiVos. If you buy a TiVo with lifetime service, you'll have no monthly fees. You'll have a DVR that is FAR superior to the Comcast/Motorola boxes, and you won't be renting any equipment from the cable company.

(One cable card is included in most packages - additional cards are generally around $6-7 per month - charged as "digital access")

So I think it's $200 or $300 for a (edit: "HD") tivo box, 13/mo for the service,and $2 or whatever/mo for the card for it from Comcast, to replace renting a box from Comcast? I wonder how, with this one card, they handle all these changes that are going on? TIA
post #7230 of 8544
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Originally Posted by Bohanna View Post

Hey Folks...... it looks like Commiecast is trying to force everybody to buy their boxes by defeating the Clear Qam tuners. It seems to have started a week or so ago in the Hingham, MA area. The first step was to change the channel numbers and mess with the Qam tuners . This last step seems to have scrambled everything except the major networks.
THIS SUCKS!!! Has anybody come up with a workaround or are we ALL SOL??

Tanx!!

Bohanna

My workaround was to cancel my expensive monthly Comcast television services. I built a mythtv dvr and have found local channels and Netflix to be sufficient entertainment - although to be honest I wouldn't mind seeing a Red Sox or Celtics game every now and then. I wish more people would cancel, then maybe things would change. I'm not counting on it though.
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