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post #14401 of 15215
2.1 and 5.1 are in the same physical channel, so a movement would affect both stations.
post #14402 of 15215
Do you think they (Comcast) will let us subscribe only to HD channels.

I havent watch SD in years and hate seeing that HD technology fee $10 on my bill. Please let me subscribe to HD only.
post #14403 of 15215
The $10 "HD Technology Fee" is for HD equipment rental. For example, if you get HBO SD, HBO HD is automatically included. If you use CableCard, there shouldn't be a HD Technology Fee to receive HD programs.
Edited by c3 - 7/17/12 at 6:19pm
post #14404 of 15215
The program guide was corrected last night or today. NFLHD is identified properly again and the program content is accurate.
post #14405 of 15215
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Originally Posted by rsra13 View Post

I received the letter, they are finally going all digital here, in South San Jose. You'll need a box, or a device that uses a cable card. I think the cut-off date is 8/15.
Ha. I got *two* letters on the same day. The wording differed slightly and the threatened cutoff date differed slightly, but the gist was the same. They're going digital.

On the reverse was a list of channels 2-33 that they said all TV's could still get if connected to a digital device.

So, to be clear, this is the long awaited abolition of analog?

The last time I really paid a lot of attention to this was when they started messing with clear QAM. At the time I had a new HDTV with a QAM tuner plugged straight into the wall and got plenty of HD content. Then comcast started playing whack-a-mole (not sure what physical QAM channel any given channel would end up on, necessitating constant rescans), then HD content was simply encrypted. So everyone with HTPC tuner cards and HD HomeRun people cried. But a bare metal TV (with an analog tuner) plugged into the wall could still at least see analog TV no matter what.

Along the way I broke down and got a Comcast box that had both analog tuners and digital tuners. Importantly, analog channels looked great.

Months later I swapped out my older DCT box with a sweet-looking DCH and finally a digital only DCX box and noticed to my horror that the same low numbered channels looked worse in digital. Something about giving 6 MHz of analog goodness to a single SD channel allowed all my video processors to do their magic on a very high quality signal. The digital version was pretty compressed and bit starved and no amount of video processing could get back the same quality as the extravagant bandwidth they used to get via analog.

So what I'm hearing is these letters finally mark the true end of analog on cable, similar to the OTA analog shutdown a few years ago?

I seem to recall back then cableco's would be forced to keep analog for awhile. I guess it's been "awhile".
post #14406 of 15215
I know for a fact that the "analog goodness" went away several years ago. There was a time when the digital channels were several seconds delayed relative to the analog channels. Why? Because the pure SD source was being instantaneously converted to analog and broadcast, whereas the digital channel had to go through the horrendous compression process that allows them to pack so many SD channels into a 6Mhz channel using the inefficient MPEG-2 codec.

Several years ago, the analog and digital channels were suddenly roughly in sync with each other. Why? Because they started deriving the analog feed from the mashed up and horribly compressed digitial feed. That way people would gradually come to accept that SD was bad and, in true Orwellian style, presumably always had been.

The cable boxes with both digital and analog tuners in them stopped tuning the analog version of the channel at about the same time, which is why the delay above could only legitimately be observed by tuning directly on the TV.

So, today it really will be painless to let the analog channels go. They really went away a long time ago.

The good news is that they are not (yet) encrypting absolutely everything. The letter from Comcast indicates that QAM tuners will still be able to receive the Limited Basic channel line-up. Obviously, you may periodically have to continue to jump through hoops to figure out what the channel mapping is from day to day. But, I had been under the impression that it was Comcast's intent in the long run to encrypt all signals rendering the QAM tuners useless. I suppose that day may still come, but it seems not yet.
post #14407 of 15215
Got the letter today here in Martinez (Danville headend) that it is going "all digital" after September 4th. I have the 3416 DVR and an HDHR so what Open QAM I don't watch on a TV can still be watched on a computer.
post #14408 of 15215
Just got a postcard that Comcast is removing the following premium channels in HD in my area effective August 15: HBO Zone, Starz Edge, Stars Comedy, Stars Kids, Showtime Too.

Weird thing is they removed those HD channels like a year ago already.

Oh, and in return the postcard said they're adding... well basically nothing.
post #14409 of 15215
So much for the benefits of eliminating the analog channels.
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post #14410 of 15215
I seems to have lost KRON (704) and KBCW (712) in Mountain View, is anybody else having reception problem for these channel around here (Mountain View/Sunnyvale) ?
post #14411 of 15215
I have not lost 704 and 712 here in Albany, but the pixelization is so bad they are unwatchable.
post #14412 of 15215
Am I correct - regarding the time of the opening Olympic Ceremonies on Friday - they will be delayed 6.5 hours until 7:30PM?
Are they being shown live (1PM PDT) on any of the other NBC channels or by streaming?

Can U.S. residents pick up streams from other countries? I know, this time, NBC is making virtually everything available live by streaming if not on one of their channels. Sure better than in past years where events were often delayed by more than 24 hours.

I think I read somewhere NBC is delaying the coverage of both opening and closing ceremonies. At least the opening on the East coast by 3.5 hours.
post #14413 of 15215
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Originally Posted by tranle View Post

I seems to have lost KRON (704) and KBCW (712) in Mountain View, is anybody else having reception problem for these channel around here (Mountain View/Sunnyvale) ?
I am in Fremont and still have 704 and 712, no loss in picture quality
post #14414 of 15215
Hey guys - I am thinking about getting TiVo for my Comcast service. I know some guys have it and I just wonder how is your experience? How you like it? What kind of box you have?

Thx!
post #14415 of 15215
Here is my Tivo Comcast review after five weeks with it.

I got a Tivo Premiere XL and love it compared to my Comcast DCX DVR. Lots more recording space is only the beginning. Searching across platforms yields the show I'm looking for, whether it is on Comcast, Netflix, Amazon, Hulu Plus, or even Youtube.

I just discovered the ability to transfer shows from Tivo (while watching other shows) to my computer. So, you can offload them and create more space on Tivo or just to burn them to DVD. And you can do multiple shows and let them transfer overnight. No more copying a single show at a time to my DVD recorder and monopolizing the DVR while the show is playing.

Lots more. I'm sold. And I will have something that is worth selling (Tivo plus transferable lifetime service) down the line, not just my $16 Comcast rental gone each month. Let's see, since 2005, that's 90 months already times $16 dollars! I should have done this long ago. It took the On Demand addition to hook me into this switch. Go for it.
post #14416 of 15215
TiVo user since year 2000. Lifetime service on all of the units I've had. As with all devices with hard drives, use UPS for power protection.
post #14417 of 15215
The Giants have such a beautiful park to play in, it's just a shame that they have a broadcast partner in Comcast that doesn't give a crap what the broadcast looks or sounds like. The image I'm seeing on CSNBA right now looks like a low bitrate DSL connection-like streaming image, just awful. A Prime Ticket broadcast of a Dodger game looks like Ultra High Definition Television compared to this mush. And then the sound, what can you say, they're idiots plain and simple, it's either that or they simply don't care, it's been plenty of time to fix this, there are no excuses, period.

What makes it even more insulting to Giants fans is that the team itself is part owner of this station, apparently they don't give a crap either.
post #14418 of 15215
I am in complete agreement. It's a crying shame, as these games used to look and sound great. It set the bar for how televised baseball should be presented. Now, it is just a mess. I've given up any hope of getting it "fixed" -- this would appear to be the new normal.
post #14419 of 15215
Is Comcast Bay Area carrying the NBC Specialty Basketball Channel and the NBC Specialty Soccer Channel during the Olympics? I just checked around the 400s and didn't see them.
I also checked my receiver for messages but didn't see anything about them.
post #14420 of 15215
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Originally Posted by wintertime View Post

Is Comcast Bay Area carrying the NBC Specialty Basketball Channel and the NBC Specialty Soccer Channel during the Olympics? I just checked around the 400s and didn't see them.
I also checked my receiver for messages but didn't see anything about them.

I think they're 89x. Also one channel for 3D.
post #14421 of 15215
785 is HD soccer and 895 is HD basketball.
post #14422 of 15215
Ah, okay, so HD only. Thanks. I don't have an HD subscription so will have to miss those.
post #14423 of 15215
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Originally Posted by emporio View Post

Hey guys - I am thinking about getting TiVo for my Comcast service. I know some guys have it and I just wonder how is your experience? How you like it? What kind of box you have?
We have a Premier Elite (now called XL4). The 4 tuner cable only version. We like TiVo so we only went back to Comcast when TiVo supported cable cards. We've had very little problem installing cable cards, particularly in the last few years, its a self install and call Comcast to activate. They even have online activation in some places (only done that in Sacramento for the Mother in Law). Now the Premier boxes have VOD, there's nothing a Comcast box can do that a TiVo can't (is there?). I still haven't made VOD work on one of the boxes though (haven't tried very hard).

With 4 tuners we've never had a conflict it can't record (you'd have to have a 5 way conflict). It comes with 2TB built in, that's enough for us, we tend to let stuff pile up and get around to it later.

Its a TiVo, it works. Though we have had a few reboots, so the XL4 is not the most stable platform they've ever released. The new HD interface is slow, but pretty and more functional (like the multi-source search mentioned above). The old interface is faster. You can also get content from Netfix, Hulu Plus, Blockbuster (I think, we don't), Amazon and YouTube.
post #14424 of 15215
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Originally Posted by btwyx View Post

They even have online activation in some places (only done that in Sacramento for the Mother in Law).

Did online activation for CableCard actually work? In my experience a few weeks ago, it did not even ask for any pairing data.
post #14425 of 15215
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Originally Posted by btwyx View Post

We have a Premier Elite (now called XL4). The 4 tuner cable only version. We like TiVo so we only went back to Comcast when TiVo supported cable cards. We've had very little problem installing cable cards, particularly in the last few years, its a self install and call Comcast to activate. They even have online activation in some places (only done that in Sacramento for the Mother in Law). Now the Premier boxes have VOD, there's nothing a Comcast box can do that a TiVo can't (is there?). I still haven't made VOD work on one of the boxes though (haven't tried very hard).
With 4 tuners we've never had a conflict it can't record (you'd have to have a 5 way conflict). It comes with 2TB built in, that's enough for us, we tend to let stuff pile up and get around to it later.
Its a TiVo, it works. Though we have had a few reboots, so the XL4 is not the most stable platform they've ever released. The new HD interface is slow, but pretty and more functional (like the multi-source search mentioned above). The old interface is faster. You can also get content from Netfix, Hulu Plus, Blockbuster (I think, we don't), Amazon and YouTube.

Thx Guys for all the feedback!! I think i will pull the trigger on Premiere XL, i think 2 tuners is just fine for me, dont watch that much TV, not sure if i would ever record 4 shows at the same time smile.gif. except the disk space any other concideration i should have?
post #14426 of 15215
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Originally Posted by c3 View Post

Did online activation for CableCard actually work? In my experience a few weeks ago, it did not even ask for any pairing data.

Online activation worked for me, but only partially. It allowed my TiVo to get the extended basic HD channels. But when I tried to watch VOD, it would start the VOD and then give the CableCard Info screen. I had to call Comcast to do a Pairing to get VOD to work.

Greg
post #14427 of 15215
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Originally Posted by c3 View Post

Did online activation for CableCard actually work? In my experience a few weeks ago, it did not even ask for any pairing data.
It worked for Mom, but she doesn't have any premium channels, so I wouldn't have been worried about pairing. I can't remember if it asked or not.
post #14428 of 15215
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

The Giants have such a beautiful park to play in, it's just a shame that they have a broadcast partner in Comcast that doesn't give a crap what the broadcast looks or sounds like. The image I'm seeing on CSNBA right now looks like a low bitrate DSL connection-like streaming image, just awful.

I don't know if you're watching tonight's game from St. Louis, but this truly hits a new low. I don't know how this could possibly be categorized as "HD" -- it's as soft as a couple of pillowy clouds.
post #14429 of 15215
I got my Tivo XL yesterday, so far it looks pretty good, install and pairing was pretty quick!

This is my 1st Tivo so please forgive my stupid questions smile.gif.
I noticed that the picture quality is not as good as with Comcast STB. First 30 min was horrible and then it got better. I set it to 1080i and Auto. Is that case with you guys. I tried it with both of my TV's. Panny GT50 and Samsung LED UN8500. Is that case with you guys
post #14430 of 15215
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Originally Posted by emporio View Post

First 30 min was horrible and then it got better.

30 minutes of TiVo or TV powering on?

Are you using HDMI or component? With HDMI and native mode, the digital stream should be the same as what's received from Comcast.
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