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What Kind Of HD CRT's Will Sony Release This Year?

post #1 of 42
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I know that Sony is only going to be releasing two CRT's this year, both of which being HDTV's. But does anyone know what screen sizes, and most importantly, will they be a step in quality or another step down. For instance, going from the XBR960 to the 970 was a step down, so will they take another step down, or a step back up? Any info would be appreciated?
post #2 of 42
A step up is unlikely to say the least. Considering that they showed no CRTs at CES I'm doubting this rumor that there will be two new models.
post #3 of 42
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Originally Posted by Wickerman1972 View Post

A step up is unlikely to say the least. Considering that they showed no CRTs at CES I'm doubting this rumor that there will be two new models.

I hope not. I'm going to get one last CRT while you can still get them, but I was hoping I could get one better than the 970. I'm almost tempted to wait and find a deal on a refurbished or slightly used 960 since they're so much better. It's truly sad to me that CRT's are all but gone.
post #4 of 42
I wouldn't be surprised if the 34XBR970 is the last of the breed -- I think the CRT market has dropped off much more rapidly than expected, and I doubt Sony would be willing to spend the resources necessary to develop any new CRT models.
post #5 of 42
I think Sony only said they will have two widesceen models this year, not two "new" widescreen models.
If they do release another Super Fine Pitch tube then I will buy two and store them.
post #6 of 42
What I don't understand is that they(including Sony) haven't filled the price gap where the CRT's were. I can get a 30" 1080i CRT for about $500, If I'm lucky, I can find a 1366 x 768 30" LCD for $600. I'm in the market for a new 24-32" TV, and from a price point CRT's are it. What good is eliminating CRT's, if I have to pay more for the same size LCD?
post #7 of 42
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Originally Posted by lastxbr960 View Post

I think Sony only said they will have two widesceen models this year, not two "new" widescreen models.

Yeah, I was imagining that they would keep selling the 970 and introduce a similar 30".
post #8 of 42
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Originally Posted by lostsoldier View Post

What good is eliminating CRT's, if I have to pay more for the same size LCD?

More money in Sony's pocket.
post #9 of 42
I was going to start a new thread, but this thread is almost along the same lines of what I wanted to ask.

With the current superbowl sales and xmas gift cards I have, I was going to pull the trigger on a 970. Any reason not to do it now and wait? Like others have said, I doubt Sony's new tubes, if there are any, will be any more superior, maybe just a feature or two that you don't really need, if that.

So, buy now or wait?
post #10 of 42
Make the best deal and get it now.

I'm so glad I was able to get my 30XS955 while they were still available.
post #11 of 42
I think that I'm falling victim to all the market hype. I'll likely be moving in the next couple months to a 60" SXRD 1080p set from my 34" XBR960. I'm not going to get rid of my HDCRT though, I definitely plan on giving it to my brother and then taking it back when I have a house that can fit two HD sets. The contrast levels are just soooo good.
post #12 of 42
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Originally Posted by SpeedDemon View Post

I think that I'm falling victim to all the market hype. I'll likely be moving in the next couple months to a 60" SXRD 1080p set from my 34" XBR960. I'm not going to get rid of my HDCRT though, I definitely plan on giving it to my brother and then taking it back when I have a house that can fit two HD sets. The contrast levels are just soooo good.

I'd be MORE than willing to make you an offer for that XBR960.
post #13 of 42
Well, I bought a 970 last night. Best Buy didn't have any, so they had to special order it. I'll have it for the super bowl though!
post #14 of 42
Considering how many people here drool at the thought of being able to get an XBR960 ( Including me. ) it amazes me that Sony was having such a hard time selling them that they felt they needed to discontinue SFPT sets altogether.
post #15 of 42
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Originally Posted by Wickerman1972 View Post

Considering how many people here drool at the thought of being able to get an XBR960 ( Including me. ) it amazes me that Sony was having such a hard time selling them that they felt they needed to discontinue SFPT sets altogether.

They just don't make a profit on them. They cost a fortune to build, they take space away on the manufacturing floor that could be used to make smaller LCD's, and they cost a fortune to ship. Yes, people you and I drool over them, but most of us are married and have our wives to think about. They don't want us spending our money on things like tv's, let alone a HUGE brick that you can't move and to them doesn't look decorative. Most men will take the compromise and get their nice, big, fancy, tv, but one that is more decorative, can be moved, and is smaller. THESE are the reasons why CRT's are dying out.
post #16 of 42
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Originally Posted by JayPSU View Post

They just don't make a profit on them. They cost a fortune to build, they take space away on the manufacturing floor that could be used to make smaller LCD's, and they cost a fortune to ship. Yes, people you and I drool over them, but most of us are married and have our wives to think about. They don't want us spending our money on things like tv's, let alone a HUGE brick that you can't move and to them doesn't look decorative. Most men will take the compromise and get their nice, big, fancy, tv, but one that is more decorative, can be moved, and is smaller. THESE are the reasons why CRT's are dying out.


Whoa there JayPSU, not all of us wives are anti CRT! Both hubby and I are very fond of our old 35" Mitsu SD tv in the oak cabinet that sits in our living room. We are still awaiting a visit from the repair guy who apparently prefers working on "todays technology".

I can tell you that when we were out looking at tvs last weekend the salespeople didnt even bother with us as we were browsing the CRT section (and we know how small that is nowadays eh?)

I have been reading through this forum for several weeks now just to get an idea of what is out there for CRT's just in case we have to get another. I know many would say we should get rid of the old dinosaur but the picture is still beautiful and clear after all these years.

I cant believe all the people that were in Best Buy in their Magnolia Home Theatre Gimmick ordering those huge tv's with the god awful picture. Some folks were watching a concert on one of those plasmas and I pointed out loudly to hubby just how crappy the picture really was but I guess some folks like pixalation(?) and blacks that are grey.

Sorry to rant but I am just sick and tired of reading about LCDs and plasmas. This is one wife that likes her tvs big & heavy

rushfan2112
post #17 of 42
You all DO know Sony's CRT manufacturing cost a fortune? It's more expensive to make a
FD Trinitron HDTV than a Sony SXRD HDTV? That is why they discontinue fast on CRT models
and not LCD, 3LCD, or SXRD.
post #18 of 42
Oh sure I totally understand that the bottem line is profit. I just never thought CRT's would be pushed out of the marketplace this quickly.

rushfan2112
post #19 of 42
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Originally Posted by rushfan2112 View Post

Oh sure I totally understand that the bottem line is profit. I just never thought CRT's would be pushed out of the marketplace this quickly.

rushfan2112

What the hell did you just say? Is that a sarcasm?
post #20 of 42
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Originally Posted by like.no.other. View Post

What the hell did you just say? Is that a sarcasm?


Huh? Why are you so hostile? I indicated that I agreed with your premise and you come back with that?
post #21 of 42
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Originally Posted by rushfan2112 View Post

Huh? Why are you so hostile? I indicated that I agreed with your premise and you come back with that?

LOL. I didn't mean to sound like an ass. That was my way saying "Can you clear
that up, I couldn't undertand"
post #22 of 42
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Originally Posted by like.no.other. View Post

LOL. I didn't mean to sound like an ass. That was my way saying "Can you clear
that up, I couldn't undertand"


Okay, I forgive

rushfan2112
post #23 of 42
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Originally Posted by JayPSU View Post

I'd be MORE than willing to make you an offer for that XBR960.

Me too
post #24 of 42
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Originally Posted by JayPSU View Post

Yes, people you and I drool over them, but most of us are married and have our wives to think about. They don't want us spending our money on things like tv's, let alone a HUGE brick that you can't move and to them doesn't look decorative. Most men will take the compromise and get their nice, big, fancy, tv, but one that is more decorative, can be moved, and is smaller. THESE are the reasons why CRT's are dying out.


I love this post. It just shows how men have become the true victims in today's society. Women may complain about how they have less rights, income, and other garbage, but the way I look at it, it's called surchage for dealing with the following:

1.) Always opening doors
2.) Buying chocolates/flowers
3.) Getting TVs and other electronics which look pretty than being good at what they are suppose to do.
4.) Not being able to buy electronics versus them spending your income on useless things like multiple purses and jewelry (just to brag to their friends)
5.) Buying a shiny stone, which serves no purpose and costs like a 1/2 yr's worth of income. Is love commerical or from deep inside? Maybe the former.

Conclusion: When your women criticizes something you do, try to "cleverly" bring up something she did which ain't so far off. Not easy by any means!

AND may explain why people in the Eastern hemispheres don't want American influences.
post #25 of 42
They should be making 1080P XBR CRTs, but they're not because consumers don't care about picture quality as 1080P CRTs would have the best picture quality at least till SED tvs come out.


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Originally Posted by JayPSU View Post

I know that Sony is only going to be releasing two CRT's this year, both of which being HDTV's. But does anyone know what screen sizes, and most importantly, will they be a step in quality or another step down. For instance, going from the XBR960 to the 970 was a step down, so will they take another step down, or a step back up? Any info would be appreciated?
post #26 of 42
I just don't see why Sony couldn't offer a full 1080p CRT as something you can only order through their website. Yeah, there wouldn't be much of a market for it despite its picture blowing away everything else so that is why they could offer it to purists as a build-per-order specialty item. Yeah, such a thing would cost a lot but some enthusiasts would be willing to pay up.
post #27 of 42
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Originally Posted by Wickerman1972 View Post

I just don't see why Sony couldn't offer a full 1080p CRT as something you can only order through their website. Yeah, there wouldn't be much of a market for it despite its picture blowing away everything else so that is why they could offer it to purists as a build-per-order specialty item. Yeah, such a thing would cost a lot but some enthusiasts would be willing to pay up.

That would be great, but we know it is not going to happen. Also with SED delayed again, I'm bummed .
post #28 of 42
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Originally Posted by RWetmore View Post

That would be great, but we know it is not going to happen. Also with SED delayed again, I'm bummed .

With some of the things happening with contrast ratios with Plasmas and LCDs I wonder if SED will happen at all. Its technological advantages might be irrelevent before it can get off the ground.

http://gear.ign.com/articles/755/755894p1.html
post #29 of 42
I just whish Sony would have made a 720p 38-inch Widescreen Direct-view CRT. I think they could have sold it forever!
post #30 of 42
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Originally Posted by Artwood View Post

I just whish Sony would have made a 720p 38-inch Widescreen Direct-view CRT. I think they could have sold it forever!

No way they could have made it and sold it for less than a 37" flat panel. The great majority of consumers will take the flat panel at the same price even with slightly poorer PQ.
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