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post #5461 of 6360
So it sounds like I have to get a new controller? Any idea how much the standalone ones cost?
post #5462 of 6360
You may not have to unless the "D-Box Controller" side of it is what is not working. The standalone controller is basically a PC controller and the PC in one box. Other members here have rebuilt the PC part successfully. If you do replace it, I recommend going to the PC controller. I think it can still look good if implemented nicely and has advantages especially if something breaks.

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Do you have any pictures of your setup?

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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

You may not have to unless the "D-Box Controller" side of it is what is not working. The standalone controller is basically a PC controller and the PC in one box. Other members here have rebuilt the PC part successfully. If you do replace it, I recommend going to the PC controller. I think it can still look good if implemented nicely and has advantages especially if something breaks.

I greatly appreciate the feedback and all of your help. I feel a lot better now. I don't think that the PC controller costs nearly as much as the standalone, correct? The only thing that I've heard in the past is that it's not as reliable, but that could have been overcome by now.

Also, I really like your home theatre. That is SUPER

NICE and impressive. When I saw the pics, I thought it looked very similar to mine, at least with the way that it's laid out, from the standpoint of the structure of the room. Pics are below. IMAG0621.jpg 1412k .jpg file IMAG0622.jpg 1532k .jpg file
post #5465 of 6360
The cost is far less. I am not sure about it not being reliable. I and others here have one and I am not aware of any issues. In fact, I can play the BTTF Ride codes where I think the 340 cannot.
post #5466 of 6360
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The cost is far less. I am not sure about it not being reliable. I and others here have one and I am not aware of any issues. In fact, I can play the BTTF Ride codes where I think the 340 cannot.

Sounds good. Question--what are those black rectangles on your walls? Some are by themselves and some are behind your speakers.
post #5467 of 6360
Those are acoustic Panels. They are exactly placed for direct reflections for all the front speakers. I still need to add more for direct reflections off the ceiling, back wall and bass traps. Ideally my entire screen wall would absorb sound, but unless I make a false screen wall, this is not going to happen for me. You can make your own or get them from several reputable online sites. Mine are from ATS Acoustics.
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Those are acoustic Panels. They are exactly placed for direct reflections for all the front speakers. I still need to add more for direct reflections off the ceiling, back wall and bass traps. Ideally my entire screen wall would absorb sound, but unless I make a false screen wall, this is not going to happen for me. You can make your own or get them from several reputable online sites. Mine are from ATS Acoustics.

Do they actually make a difference in the sound quality in the room?
post #5469 of 6360
Yes, very much so, but this is not the right forum to review it. Please PM me or we can start a new thread.
post #5470 of 6360
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Yes, very much so, but this is not the right forum to review it. Please PM me or we can start a new thread.

OK. Sent you a PM.
post #5471 of 6360
Looks like I am blocked at work now. PM sent.
Edited by thxman - 10/15/12 at 1:25pm
post #5472 of 6360
My wife is letting me order a d-box ready seat this week!

I have a few questions.

Here is my planned setup.
United Leather Magellan Model 1090 Two arm loveseat (Stand alone)
Fully Motorized Recline = yes
D-Box Ready

Questions:
  • What is the difference btw the 2-axis and the 3-axis setup? Does the 3-axis have additional movement?
  • Will either the 2250i or 3250i be big enough for the love seat?
  • Is the only other part I will need the MCI-2P and the Windows XP laptop that I already have?
  • What does the KAI-1P Kinetic Audio interface for gaming do for movies?
  • Should I avoid a love seat and just go with one chair. (The problem is that I have three small kids (four if you count me)
post #5473 of 6360
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Originally Posted by xtremehometheatr View Post

My wife is letting me order a d-box ready seat this week!
I have a few questions.
Here is my planned setup.
United Leather Magellan Model 1090 Two arm loveseat (Stand alone)
Fully Motorized Recline = yes
D-Box Ready
Nice, I have the same brand, but different model. Please post pictures if you can smile.gif.


Questions answered in Red.
  • What is the difference btw the 2-axis and the 3-axis setup? Does the 3-axis have additional movement?Yes, 3 axis adds heave (up and down) and also increases front to back motion.
  • Will either the 2250i or 3250i be big enough for the love seat? I don't know if you can do 2-axis or 3 actuators in a loveseat. It seems to me like it would be a bit unstable to sit in. The reason for this is they are set up like a tripod. Even a single chair will tilt some when the system is off. Think about what it would be like if you removed your loveseat's back 2 legs and replaced it with a single leg in the back. As for capacity, it depends on how much everyone weighs but if it just you and some kids, you probably will be just fine.
  • Is the only other part I will need the MCI-2P and the Windows XP laptop that I already have?Yes, unless you want to add more than 2 seats on day, then you may consider the MCI-4P. Also, what BD player do you have? If you want HD-Audio and D-Box , you will be limited on which ones work for both at the same time.
  • What does the KAI-1P Kinetic Audio interface for gaming do for movies?Nothing for movies. Only works on some PC games.
  • Should I avoid a love seat and just go with one chair. (The problem is that I have three small kids (four if you count me)Not if you are on a budget and have that many that want to share. The difference is not worth you or your kids missing out. Some folks like the feel of a love seat better!
post #5474 of 6360
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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

Nice, I have the same brand, but different model. Please post pictures if you can smile.gif.
Questions answered in Red.
  • What is the difference btw the 2-axis and the 3-axis setup? Does the 3-axis have additional movement?Yes, 3 axis adds heave (up and down) and also increases front to back motion.
  • Will either the 2250i or 3250i be big enough for the love seat? I don't know if you can do 2-axis or 3 actuators in a loveseat. It seems to me like it would be a bit unstable to sit in. The reason for this is they are set up like a tripod. Even a single chair will tilt some when the system is off. Think about what it would be like if you removed your loveseat's back 2 legs and replaced it with a single leg in the back. As for capacity, it depends on how much everyone weighs but if it just you and some kids, you probably will be just fine.
  • Is the only other part I will need the MCI-2P and the Windows XP laptop that I already have?Yes, unless you want to add more than 2 seats on day, then you may consider the MCI-4P. Also, what BD player do you have? If you want HD-Audio and D-Box , you will be limited on which ones work for both at the same time.
  • What does the KAI-1P Kinetic Audio interface for gaming do for movies?Nothing for movies. Only works on some PC games.
  • Should I avoid a love seat and just go with one chair. (The problem is that I have three small kids (four if you count me)Not if you are on a budget and have that many that want to share. The difference is not worth you or your kids missing out. Some folks like the feel of a love seat better!

I can return my Blu Ray Player. Just got it from best buy. It is last year's model Marantz UD 5005. It was half off. I am concerned about your comment on HD Audio and D-box. I want HD audio. Can you explain this a bit more. (Please note that I use Netflix blue ray rental a lot and I think they are stripped of HD auido - however, I plan on buying several that are HD audio)

Do this actuators weigh 250 lbs???
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Does anyone have any regrets from purchasing a d-box?
post #5476 of 6360
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Originally Posted by xtremehometheatr View Post

I can return my Blu Ray Player. Just got it from best buy. It is last year's model Marantz UD 5005. It was half off. I am concerned about your comment on HD Audio and D-box. I want HD audio. Can you explain this a bit more. (Please note that I use Netflix blue ray rental a lot and I think they are stripped of HD auido - however, I plan on buying several that are HD audio)
Do this actuators weigh 250 lbs???

None of D-box's controllers accept HDMI. Also, D-Box cannot sync with HD-Audio formats. Both lossy "Old school" audio formats (DTS and Dolby Digital) have time signatures that D-Box can sync their codes with. Some BD Players (I have the Oppo) can output both HDMI (with HD Audio) and digital (either PCM or Optical) at the same time. This allows you to experience D-Box and HD-Audio a the same time. The only exception here are the handful of movies with PCM audio. You can either go back to normal DTS/DD or there is an HTPC option that works.


Rentals can be an issue. Lion's Gate movies are the ones that I find this issue with the most. I go to a movie trading company that allows me to rent normal retail copies of all BDs, so this is my workaround..

The actuators are fairly light. No more than 10 lbs each. The 250 lbs you are looking at is for something else.
post #5477 of 6360
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Originally Posted by xtremehometheatr View Post

Does anyone have any regrets from purchasing a d-box?
I have never come across anyone that has. Like anything, do your homework. Know that not all movies will be coded with MFX. Sometimes you will have to wait for codes and sometimes you will wait for several months.

Most negative comments I read about D-Box are from folks that think it is too expensive or have not had time to dial a D-Box system in. They CAN be fine-tuned. It is a ton of fun and at my home, it brings smiles to everyone that uses it.
post #5478 of 6360
One more comment. Before you buy your chair, decide on what you are going to have installed in it. The SRPs CAN be installed, hidden inside the arm rests. To do this you will need to order your loveseat to be designed for this. This is an option that D-Box suggested to me and it does NOT void any warranties and will give your seating a clean look. I mention this because SRPs are cheaper that the kits you mentioned.
post #5479 of 6360
I should already know the answer, but I'll ask anyway. It's possible to buy a single chair with 4 actuators integrated, right?
post #5480 of 6360
Yes, just order the chair with the 4250I and your set to go. The only limitation I can foresee would be some chair brands may have conflicts with some of their models due to how they construct it. The 4250I (4 actuator) has a 800 lbs capacity vs the 3250I (3 actuator) at 600 lbs capacity. The SRP-230 (and 130) both claim 750 lbs but my guess (NOT CONFIRMED) is that they are taking into account the extra weight of the bars and housing which would be around 50 lbs.
post #5481 of 6360
You can check out this D-Box Jaymar built for either 3 or 4 actuators.

http://trainbots.com/pics/dbox.jpg File size is a bit big.
post #5482 of 6360
I know it hasn't been mentioned in a while, I wasn't sure when I bought it, but I use the iOS D-BOX database app quite frequently when checking if movies are coded. Even though the apps has some quirks, It is constantly kept up-to-date with database changes. Maybe if more people bought it the developer might put a little time into fixing the issues...
post #5483 of 6360
So when a new code hits, do you really get a notification or it is behind some?
post #5484 of 6360
When you go in the app it tells you that it updated the database. I'm pretty sure it is pulling it somehow from the D-BOX website, but it should be enhanced to give an alert. I'm sure it is not programmed as a multi-task app because it starts from the beginning every time you minimize it.
post #5485 of 6360
Looks like I am lost spousal approval when she found out how much the d-box costs. If I go with the 2250i that is two axis I can retro fit it into my current Berkline Home theater chair. I will reinforce them. It currently has a buttkicker in it and is very solid.
Questions:

  • Will I be disappointed with 2 axis?
  • Can I add a second 2250i later to make it three axis?
  • Has anyone else done this?
post #5486 of 6360
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Originally Posted by xtremehometheatr View Post

Will I be disappointed with 2 axis?
You will still have most of the motion, I don't think you will be disappointed, but I have never tired 2-axis.
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Originally Posted by xtremehometheatr View Post

Can I add a second 2250i later to make it three axis?
Yes, but you have to send them to D-Box to be reprogrammed.
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Has anyone else done this?
Yes, It has been mentioned in this thread, but I am not going to look for it right now. smile.gif

I am worried about you adding this to Berklines. I know you have buttkickers, but this is another league. Do you have a place where you can demo D-Box? If so, take a copy of Flight Phoenix and have them demo D-Box on it. You will quickly see how your seating will not last. Why not go with an SRP? These will provide some added support for your seating and cost a bunch less. I did not find anyone taking much off the list price of the "built in" kits (2250i etc.) but SRPs can be had for under the MSRP of the 2250I.
post #5487 of 6360
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Originally Posted by xtremehometheatr View Post

Looks like I am lost spousal approval when she found out how much the d-box costs.

Hmm, with D-BOX that is the very first thing to check because it is in a different league compared to almost anything else. Used is an option, but hard to find, because they last forever and the hardware rarely changes.
post #5488 of 6360
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Originally Posted by xtremehometheatr View Post

  • Will I be disappointed with 2 axis?
  • Can I add a second 2250i later to make it three axis?
  • Has anyone else done this?

Hi,

yes, I have been upgrading a 2-axis D-Box/Jaymar loveseat by adding another 2 actuators. As mentioned, I had to send the two actuators and the syndrive that were originally mounted in the seat to D-Box to have them reconfigured for use in a 3-axis system. They returned them together with the two additional actuators and the additional syndrive. The whole transaction had to go through one of their dealers, as they do not sell new stuff direct to a customer.

I also also liked the seat with 2-axis motion, but 3-axis is simply better.

Hope this helps!

Cheers!

Markus


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post #5489 of 6360
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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

The cost is far less. I am not sure about it not being reliable. I and others here have one and I am not aware of any issues. In fact, I can play the BTTF Ride codes where I think the 340 cannot.

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post #5490 of 6360
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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

The standalone controller is basically a PC controller and the PC in one box. Other members here have rebuilt the PC part successfully. If you do replace it, I recommend going to the PC controller. I think it can still look good if implemented nicely and has advantages especially if something breaks.

Has anyone tried plugging the 340C controller part into a standard PC running the latest PC software? Generally speaking, the software on the 340C and for the PC controller are totally different, right? And has anyone figured out why you would need a different controller (the KAI one) for games than the one for movies? Are they very different?
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