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post #5701 of 6359
Hmm, Zero Dark 30 getting the treatment but still no Hurt Locker. I would think they would have similar likelihood of coding.
post #5702 of 6359
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Originally Posted by xhonzi View Post

Whatever happened to Batman 1989? This was such an event movie and a treasured memory of my past. I just watched it (non-D-Box) last fall with my 9 year old son. Both of us offered a collective 'meh' when it was over and I tried to explain to him how big a deal it was in 1989.

Christopher Nolan, nuff said.

I am hoping Man of Steal will have the same impact.

On a side note, the Hobbit codes are out.
post #5703 of 6359
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Originally Posted by turls View Post

Hmm, Zero Dark 30 getting the treatment but still no Hurt Locker. I would think they would have similar likelihood of coding.

I'm glad you brought that up since I picked up hurt locker. I'll give it a few months before I watch it in case it's in the works.
post #5704 of 6359
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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

Interesting look, thank you. Consumer D-Box has been available since about 2001.

EDIT: It seems you are missing some. You have only 747 listed and they are now over 1000 "movie" titles. I am not sure where you pull your data from now they have updated their web site. I find it best to import from the XML on my D-BOX directory. You can import this right into Excel and it looks very nice. As long as my codes are up to date, it should be a complete list.
How do I exactly import the XML into excel? I can t seem to open it with Excel 2000.
post #5705 of 6359
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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

Christopher Nolan, nuff said.

I am hoping Man of Steal will have the same impact.

On a side note, the Hobbit codes are out.

I thought it says in the website 3/27 for Hobbit?
post #5706 of 6359
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Originally Posted by jillbrazil View Post

Shoot em Up is an action / comedy with Clive Owen and Paul Giamatti that came out a few years ago . It's a bit silly but I suppose that's the whole point . There's a great Heavy Metal soundtrack with Motorhead , AC/DC and Motley Crue . You should be able to find it on Amazon .

This movie is also a great demo flick for the INFRASONIC TRW Rotary subwoofer, I have yet to experience it with d-box combined but lots of fun.
post #5707 of 6359
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Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

I thought it says in the website 3/27 for Hobbit?

I don't go by the website anymore. When I am able to download the codes I share my findings.
post #5708 of 6359
Does anyone have a two actuator dBox with the front pivot as a chair/movie setup?

What's the cheapest d-box seating store? http://www.d-box.com/en/consumer/home_products_seating_partners

Thanks.


Edited by MauroAC - 3/24/13 at 2:27am
post #5709 of 6359
The Cheapest "seat only" D-Box chair I have ever seen was United Leather $650 per chair (on sale). You are still going to have to find someone to sell you a 2250i kit cheap. You could see if D-Box would reprogram a SRP-230 to make each side a 2-axis system. That could get you down to about $3500 per chair but will give you a lot of work.
post #5710 of 6359
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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

The Cheapest "seat only" D-Box chair I have ever seen was United Leather $650 per chair (on sale). You are still going to have to find someone to sell you a 2250i kit cheap. You could see if D-Box would reprogram a SRP-230 to make each side a 2-axis system. That could get you down to about $3500 per chair but will give you a lot of work.

I forgot to mention that I currently have a four actuator setup that it is attached to a racing rig. I have an extra two actuator setup that I am planning to use for movies.

I had never watched a movie on dbox - just gaming. Thanks.
post #5711 of 6359
Well then just the $650 is the cheapest I have seen for a "plug and play" type setup.
post #5712 of 6359
So my son and I finally decided to sit down and go through watching all the Harry Potter Movies movies. I have all 8 movies as a complete set. Well, turns out that the 1st 5 don't sync. In fact they are PCM or Lossy DD only. Looking at Blu Ray.com the Ultimate Cuts have DTS-MA on each movie. Anyone know if they (Ultimate Cuts) sync? They are not cheap.
post #5713 of 6359
Well, Ultimate Editions did not work either. Can anyone report a version that does work?
post #5714 of 6359
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Originally Posted by MauroAC View Post

Does anyone have a two actuator dBox with the front pivot as a chair/movie setup?

What's the cheapest d-box seating store? http://www.d-box.com/en/consumer/home_products_seating_partners

Thanks.


Hi,

my D-Box loveseat was a 2 axis seat before I upgraded it to 3 axis.
Unfortunately, I only used it briefly with the 2 actuator/front pivot configuration, before I removed the two actuators/syndrive and sent it to D-Box to have it reprogrammed and upgraded by adding a 2250i.

Motion and vibration was still good in two axis, as far as I remember, but as I was previously using an UMP-200 (now SRP-230) under a Ligne Roset sofa and that was 3 axis, I didn't want to downgrade on the new love seat. cool.gif What I learned when moving to the loveseat was that it is advantageous to don't have the feet on solid (=non-moving) ground, which used to be the case with the "old" sofa/UMP-200 combo.

Anyway, I have a quite different challenge. Actually, it's kind of a luxury problem. I am plannung to have a dedicated home theater in my new flat that I have acquired a year and a half ago. I am still in the process of remodelling but one day, there will be the dedicated home theater room on the lower floor.
I do have the 3 axis love seat and that one, I want to keep definitely. I also have an UMP-200 and a SRP-530.
  • The UMP-200 is nice as it can be integrated into a seat and the load capacity of 700lbs/328kg is good for a one or two seat configuration. When combinging two seats, however, I expect they have to be in a row. Having them in an angle might make it harder to hide the actuators in the armrests. The distance between the two actuators in a module is fixed (as long as one does not disassemble the modules), which also has to be taken into account when drafting an application. Vertical lift of the actuators is 1 1/2".
  • The SRP-530 on the other hand can handle up to 2000 lbs/907 kg, which means that up to 6 people can be put on the motion system. The horizontal actuators are invisible under the platform. One is free to mount whatever seating fits onto the platform, i.e. Home theater seats, even in an angle, standard movie theater seats, maybe even in a two-row configuration. The SRP-530's vertical lift is 3/4".

While the UMP-200 is easier to accomodate, as it can be put wherever a one- or two-seater fits, the SRP-530 has its advantages too. confused.gif

Well, I will keep contemplating on the advantages of one or the other config and finally make a decision... and the "surplus" will have to go on the European flebay... wink.gif

Cheers!

Markus
post #5715 of 6359
How many rows will you have? If 2, then I would put the back row on a platform driven by the SRP-530 and run the other ones upfront.
post #5716 of 6359
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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

How many rows will you have? If 2, then I would put the back row on a platform driven by the SRP-530 and run the other ones upfront.

The second row is one of the options indeed. The room, however, isn't too big. Since it is on a lower floor of a five story building (built date 1900) the walls cannot be moved... There are two doors, one of them towards a staircase used by all residents. I want to place my equipment racks in front of that door. This way, I have easy access to the back of the racks without any need to move them. This leaves the second door that opens to another room in my property as the entrance door. This one, however, is in the back of the room. If there is a second row in the back of the room, one would have to cross the platform to get into the room... I will have to produce a sketch... wink.gif

Thanks!

Markus
post #5717 of 6359
I just made a few small updates to the Unofficial FAQ...
post #5718 of 6359
Codes for The Sweeney are out.
post #5719 of 6359
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Originally Posted by drvais View Post

I just made a few small updates to the Unofficial FAQ...

In trying to find as much information about D-Box as possible your FAQ has been helpful.

However I'm still left with a few questions.

First, what's the biggest difference between D-Box designed chairs and the Motion Platforms used with any chair/couch that will fit? Benefits and drawbacks to each?

Second, if connecting through a HTPC what is the recommended set-up? I'm planning a Media Center build abound XBMC, so is D-Box compatible and what is required to get things working properly?

Lastly, after having a Home D-Box demo done at a local store I was very unimpressed with the performance compared to the theater, especially when right after the demo I went and saw The Amazing Spider-Man and was nearly thrown from my seat. biggrin.gif

The in store demo was like riding a kiddie ride outside a supermarket compared to the thrill ride roller coaster the theater experience is. Did I just have a bad demo?

All help and suggestions are appreciated!
post #5720 of 6359
I will answer some of your questions.
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Originally Posted by Batiatus Rules View Post

First, what's the biggest difference between D-Box designed chairs and the Motion Platforms used with any chair/couch that will fit? Benefits and drawbacks to each?
D-Box does not design chairs for home use. They are partners with top quality manufactures of Home Theater seating. Some manufactures will yield better results than others and on top of that, some models of chairs within a manufacture's line will provide different results. Moving to your question, I started with one of the "platforms" you mentioned and I did not find it as aesthetically pleasing. I also observed unwanted noise from the housing of my units. I have since modified mine to fit into my D-Box ready seating as did some others here. This hides D-Box and removes the sound I had observed. I would like to point out that this saved me quite a bit as these unites are cheaper than the kits made for my seating.

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Originally Posted by Batiatus Rules View Post

Lastly, after having a Home D-Box demo done at a local store I was very unimpressed with the performance compared to the theater, especially when right after the demo I went and saw The Amazing Spider-Man and was nearly thrown from my seat. biggrin.gif

The in store demo was like riding a kiddie

There are way to many variables for anyone here to fully explain why you experienced this with full certainty. I can give you some reasons, but there are many others.

  • What movie did you demo? Some movies have more moment than others. Just like the LEF recording on some movie soundtracks are more powerful than others.
  • Did you demo a 2-axis or 3-axis system? Some locations only demo the 2-axis because they are cheaper and help with sticker shock. Movie theaters use 3 axis.
  • What where the intensity settings set to? There are a seemingly infinite number of levels that allow you to adjust to allow you to find your comfort level vs the theater's far fewer combinations.
  • How soft where the chairs you demo'ed on? You want chairs that are comfortable, yet firm, otherwise much of the MFX energy is lost.
  • Did you demo a platform (under floor) or actual chairs? D-Box used to sell different actuators for full platform installs that where much more powerful, but had limited movement. (3/4 " versus 1 1/2" excursion)
These are just from the top of my head, there are other factors that can contribute to this. I do want to point out some physics here. Although D-Box uses the same actuators in the theater chairs, they are closer together and just under the seat whereas in home seating, they are at the floor and further spread out. This means that the theater seating will have marginally more intense motion. As you move to wider seating, the difference should become more noticeable. I have tried the theater seating on some movies and I much prefer the home seating. This is mostly because I can recline, which gets my feet off the stationary ground and I also can rest my head whereas the theater seat's headboard was not high enough for me to do so. Together, these provide me with more immersion. I also experienced some motions in the theater that made me feel I was tilted too far forward which did give me a sense of falling out.

I hope others will chime in as well.
post #5721 of 6359
I'll leave it to others on 1 and 3, but on 2 you should consider a Oppo Player or Dune box. There is not true support for simultaneous HDMI and optical/coaxial audio output on a HTPC. It can be done with hacks (documented in this thread), but that is not as foolproof.

If you don't care about missing out on the fancier audio codecs and DD 5.1 is ok for you, then you might be ok.
post #5722 of 6359
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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

I will answer some of your questions.
D-Box does not design chairs for home use. They are partners with top quality manufactures of Home Theater seating. Some manufactures will yield better results than others and on top of that, some models of chairs within a manufacture's line will provide different results. Moving to your question, I started with one of the "platforms" you mentioned and I did not find it as aesthetically pleasing. I also observed unwanted noise from the housing of my units. I have since modified mine to fit into my D-Box ready seating as did some others here. This hides D-Box and removes the sound I had observed. I would like to point out that this saved me quite a bit as these unites are cheaper than the kits made for my seating.
There are way to many variables for anyone here to fully explain why you experienced this with full certainty. I can give you some reasons, but there are many others.

  • What movie did you demo? Some movies have more moment than others. Just like the LEF recording on some movie soundtracks are more powerful than others.
  • Did you demo a 2-axis or 3-axis system? Some locations only demo the 2-axis because they are cheaper and help with sticker shock. Movie theaters use 3 axis.
  • What where the intensity settings set to? There are a seemingly infinite number of levels that allow you to adjust to allow you to find your comfort level vs the theater's far fewer combinations.
  • How soft where the chairs you demo'ed on? You want chairs that are comfortable, yet firm, otherwise much of the MFX energy is lost.
  • Did you demo a platform (under floor) or actual chairs? D-Box used to sell different actuators for full platform installs that where much more powerful, but had limited movement. (3/4 " versus 1 1/2" excursion)
These are just from the top of my head, there are other factors that can contribute to this. I do want to point out some physics here. Although D-Box uses the same actuators in the theater chairs, they are closer together and just under the seat whereas in home seating, they are at the floor and further spread out. This means that the theater seating will have marginally more intense motion. As you move to wider seating, the difference should become more noticeable. I have tried the theater seating on some movies and I much prefer the home seating. This is mostly because I can recline, which gets my feet off the stationary ground and I also can rest my head whereas the theater seat's headboard was not high enough for me to do so. Together, these provide me with more immersion. I also experienced some motions in the theater that made me feel I was tilted too far forward which did give me a sense of falling out.

I hope others will chime in as well.

Appreciate the feedback. For starters I guess I should have been more clear in saying D-Box ready seating and not make it sound as D-Box made. So it sounds as if getting the "ready" seating with the general use platforms and doing some modification works well and is the cheaper option?

The demo we saw was the pod race from Phantom Menace and the end battle from Top Gun. They were dedicated seats but I'm unsure if they were 2 or 3 axis. Both in recliners with our feet up. Very underwhelming. I don't think the sales guy really knew much of what he was trying to sell or how to give a proper demo. Both my buddy and I have sales backgrounds and we picked up on several negatives from the guy. He said the setting was on the highest intensity and I think we felt more "motion" in our seats on the drive to the store than in the chairs.

At theaters I'm always pulling me feet back and cross-locking them to get them off the floor anytime an action scene begins. Absolutely intensifies the experience. My buddy would be much more willing to drive to Quebec and buy one of the 2 seat theater demo set-ups then modify the chairs with foot rests than pay 20 grand for nice leather recliners that don't do much at all.

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Originally Posted by turls View Post

I'll leave it to others on 1 and 3, but on 2 you should consider a Oppo Player or Dune box. There is not true support for simultaneous HDMI and optical/coaxial audio output on a HTPC. It can be done with hacks (documented in this thread), but that is not as foolproof.

If you don't care about missing out on the fancier audio codecs and DD 5.1 is ok for you, then you might be ok.

Spending $40,000 on a dedicated home theater I'm pretty sure DD 5.1 is not acceptable. The whole experience trying to be built is a true theater in the home, and so far XBMC with Cinema Experience seems to get us about as close as possible. What are the issues with exporting audio via both HDMI and Optical on a HTPC? Or where can I find more information on this? Searching hasn't helped, or I'm ding the wrong search.
post #5723 of 6359
Honestly, with a D-Box investment, I would suggest reading this whole thread or at least the past 2-3 years--I did that and learned a lot. Then you will find it. I'm not sure how far back it is mentioned, but it isn't too many months.

I'm not saying don't go with a HTPC, but with your investment you should go ahead and do a Dune or Oppo anyway, its not a huge extra expense.
post #5724 of 6359
Sanderdvd is the person with the HTPC, look at his threads to see what he has done.

I have not seen Top Gun in D-Box but the Pod Race is not the best MFX for demo on home system.



EDIT: fixed spelling
Edited by thxman - 4/8/13 at 3:12pm
post #5725 of 6359
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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

Sandedvd is the person with the HTPC, look at his threads to see what he has done.

I have not seen Top Gun in D-Box but the Pod Race is not the best MFX for demo on home system.

That is VERY disappointing.

My buddy and I will be trying again soon. And thanks for the HTPC tips. Looks like I've got more reading to do!
post #5726 of 6359
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Originally Posted by sanderdvd View Post

. At first I told him that I don t have a clue about this but I just found the Advanced settings in the MCI PC based software that tells me the WEIGHT per actuator. Would it be that simple and is that the information I m probably looking for? In idle without people on the seating the weight is 402 for the left front actuator, 540 for the left back actuator, 468 for the right front actuator and 495 for the right back actuator. This would mean a total weight of 1905? And if I am correct with this, 1905 what? lbs? This would not make sense at all because my system does not have a weight of 864kg! (864kg=1905lbs).

Could you guys help me out on this? thxz

A bit late but I just remembered that the weight listed is in newtons. The conversions are:
· Pounds = Newton X 0.224808943
· Kilograms = Newton X 0.10197162

Hope this helps somehow.
post #5727 of 6359
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Originally Posted by Batiatus Rules View Post

That is VERY disappointing.

My buddy and I will be trying again soon. And thanks for the HTPC tips. Looks like I've got more reading to do!

Hmmm can't seem to find that username.
post #5728 of 6359
I just replied to one of his old post just above yours. Also, here is the link to the setup info. It may be a bit outdated.

http://htpcfordbox.over-blog.com/
post #5729 of 6359
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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

I just replied to one of his old post just above yours. Also, here is the link to the setup info. It may be a bit outdated.

http://htpcfordbox.over-blog.com/

Ah, you forgot the R in Sander. Thanks for the help!
post #5730 of 6359
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Originally Posted by Batiatus Rules View Post

Ah, you forgot the R in Sander. Thanks for the help!
Ops sorry. I may have been drinking wink.gif
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