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post #5971 of 6360
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Originally Posted by xhonzi View Post

Also, I think I already know the answer to this: Can you adjust delay in the 340c? I certain I saw that you could do it in the PC software, but I am also sure I heard that you can't do it in the 340c. Any reason why not? I'm thinking about begging Antonin to get this feature in the next software rollout. My current system has about 100 ms of delay, which causes the effect to be felt just a tad before heard/seen. My Yamaha RX-A3000 delays the audio to match the display, but apparently the passed through optical is unaffected by the delay.


I just realized I never added this to the FAQ. I will do so later this week. In the meantime...

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Originally Posted by drvais View Post

I recently discovered that my DVDO Duo video processor was introducing a -141 ms delay into my setup (even though the Duo's audio delay setup indicates a delay of 0 ms). Since I have my Oppo BDP-83's optical output plugged directly into my 340C, the Duo's delay was affecting synchronized motion. Honestly, I really had not noticed until I watched Heat and felt movement preceding the gunshots.


Anyway, I broke down and bought a Felston DD740 and now my setup is 100% in sync for video, sound and motion. I just thought I would share this info for anyone else using a Duo and unaware that it causes some delay.

post #5972 of 6360
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Originally Posted by drvais View Post

Anyway, I broke down and bought a Felston DD740 and now my setup is 100% in sync for video, sound and motion. I just thought I would share this info for anyone else using a Duo and unaware that it causes some delay.

How much did that cost? I spent an extra $100 on my receiver thinking it would prevent me from having to buy a delayer like that. I was under the impression that they were pricey.
post #5973 of 6360
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Originally Posted by xhonzi View Post

How much did that cost? I spent an extra $100 on my receiver thinking it would prevent me from having to buy a delayer like that. I was under the impression that they were pricey.

$259, shipped.
post #5974 of 6360
thxman, could you see if you can get this program to work?
http://www.eltima.com/products/vspdxp/

You can download the free 14-days trial from the link.
post #5975 of 6360
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Originally Posted by turls View Post

..but how do you know when they update codes? I can't tell when they update previous releases.

I use VNC to connect to my D-Box PC from any PC in my house and run the manual updater.
post #5976 of 6360
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Originally Posted by sanderdvd View Post

thxman, could you see if you can get this program to work?
http://www.eltima.com/products/vspdxp/

You can download the free 14-days trial from the link.


Yes, I can try that one too, but I have had some issues. My test box (Laptop) has windows XP 32 bit. I got everything working and then tried to do the same set up on my Win7 64bit box (my D-Box PC) and my commands did not respond 100% of the time. In addition, it somehow messed up the real com port I was using for my remote. I have since fixed my setup but now I am a bit wary about testing on my Win7 box.
post #5977 of 6360
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Originally Posted by thxman View Post

Yes, I can try that one too, but I have had some issues. My test box (Laptop) has windows XP 32 bit. I got everything working and then tried to do the same set up on my Win7 64bit box (my D-Box PC) and my commands did not respond 100% of the time. In addition, it somehow messed up the real com port I was using for my remote. I have since fixed my setup but now I am a bit wary about testing on my Win7 box.
can you help me on my way how to config it?
post #5978 of 6360
Hi

i have a bluray OPPO 103 player with D-BOX solution (Mci CONTroler with PC)
I have a timing delay between the action and the movement that is growing more the film progresses.

if I pause the timing delay disappears

i have 3 bluray player (a Pionner bdp 140,a sony CX 960 and an oppo 103)

i have this problem only with te OPPO

can you help me
post #5979 of 6360
Latest Widescreen Review has numerous BluRay reviews of releases that have codes and there were no D-BOX reviews included (They normally have at least one D-BOX review). Wonder what is up with that?
post #5980 of 6360
I think I've seen an issue or two in the past without a D-Box review...
post #5981 of 6360
Iron Man 3 seems to be out. I wonder if they coded the Agent Carter short. We watched that last night and it could make good use of some D-Box codes.
post #5982 of 6360
Would'nt they list it seperatly like they did with Paperman on the Wreck it Ralph Blu .
post #5983 of 6360

great.Let's hope we see wider Studio support and also HD DVD-supported formats soon also.

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post #5984 of 6360
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Originally Posted by vertbikenow View Post

great.Let's hope we see wider Studio support and also HD DVD-supported formats soon also.
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Why would someone build a bot account to talk about HD-DVD? Bizarre. Moderator, please remove these auto-trolls.
post #5985 of 6360
Tried the retail US Zero Dark Thirty, just confirming it finally works (3rd try?).
post #5986 of 6360
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Originally Posted by drvais View Post

Why would someone build a bot account to talk about HD-DVD? Bizarre. Moderator, please remove these auto-trolls.

Must be a very lonely person. Kinda sad
post #5987 of 6360
I presume this isn't available in the UK to the consumer then? How much is a d-box solution anyway?
post #5988 of 6360
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Originally Posted by shadowdogg View Post

I presume this isn't available in the UK to the consumer then? How much is a d-box solution anyway?

Oh I'm sure it is. I know there are several members here from Europe. I'd email from the website to see the distributor. There are lots of options on how you implement it. Go find you a local demo
post #5989 of 6360
I am really interested in a d-box chair, but they are very expensive. Do those of you whom own one already feel that is worth the money? Do you use it a lot? How important do you rank it as an essential piece in your home theater?
post #5990 of 6360
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Originally Posted by xtremehometheatr View Post

I am really interested in a d-box chair, but they are very expensive. Do those of you whom own one already feel that is worth the money? Do you use it a lot? How important do you rank it as an essential piece in your home theater?

Great questions. And, honestly, I don't really feel like it's worth the money (and I got a pretty big discount.) It's fun for the first few movies and it's neat to show off, but it's not really economically expandible if you want to add more seating to your theater later. Does it make movies more fun? Yes. Does it make movies thousands of dollars worth more fun? Not really. Keep in mind, that's just my opinion.

Perhaps I have just gotten jaded by waiting so long for motion codes to be released. Sometimes, during a movie, the couch will just go up and down for no reason (like an error or something). Throw in the fact that the Jaymar seats are the most uncomfortable piece of furniture I have ever owned, it makes it really hard to sit through an entire movie.

There has been a LOT of discussion around here lately on how to remotely control the D-Box controller(s), using D-Box with home theater PCs, RS-232 controlling, etc. It's all so complex, you can spend DAYS attempting to perfect your set up, with little payoff.

You're in the D-Box thread, so you're going to get a LOT of people telling you to go for it. But, it's simply my opinion that it's not worth the investment. And, if I had to do it over again, I probably wouldn't.
Edited by ckenisell - 9/29/13 at 9:33pm
post #5991 of 6360
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Originally Posted by xtremehometheatr View Post

I am really interested in a d-box chair, but they are very expensive. Do those of you whom own one already feel that is worth the money? Do you use it a lot? How important do you rank it as an essential piece in your home theater?

Well, I certainly wouldn't see D-Box being a necessity for a fine home theater, but rather as the icing on the cake...

Is it worth it? To me, it certainly is!

If you, however, are running a $499 HTIB (home theater in a box), I would rather recommend investing in your audio and video equipment. But if you are already on a very high standard on the audio/video side, the motion side certainly is a further enhancement. In the beginning, one tends to put the intensity controls to the max position... sure, you have bought a motion system, so you want to feel it - it is the same as with a new subwoofer, you tend to overdo it at first. As time goes by you will adjust it, so that the sub gives you the pressure that suits the overall presentation. It is the same with the motion. If applied in the appropriate portion, the increase in immersion is unparalleled. Add a really good 3D system and you are in the middle of things.

There are, however, some points to consider:
- Your home theater should be "solid". You are moving a couple of hundred kilos/pounds with up to 2G. The house I am currently living in, is shaking when I turn on the motion. Therfore a basement or ground floor installation is way easier to accomplish than one under the roof.
- If you want HD sound and motion at the same time, you need a compatible player. The OPPOs and Dunes are capable to outpout HD sound and the legacy DD/DTS codec through their Toslink/coaxial digital outs at the same time
- Don't expect to get codes on the release date of the DVD/blu-ray disc
- If you are not based in the US, you might have to send in DVDs and Blu-Rays for movies that have codes to make sure they sync with your local version
- Only the original DVDs/Blu-Rays work. Streaming or satellite programmes won't sync
- There are turnkey solutions (standalone controller & seats with integrated actuators) but they are more expensive. The most economical solution, i.e. a SRP-230 and a MCI-2P, means that you need to invest more time in setting things up and/or running them, but that might be part of the fun... ;-)

So, D-Box isn't for everyone, but as the ultimate enhancement, it is unique. I wouldn't want to part with it!

Just my 2 cents.


Markus
post #5992 of 6360
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Originally Posted by shadowdogg View Post

I presume this isn't available in the UK to the consumer then? How much is a d-box solution anyway?

Can't speak for the UK, but in Germany, there is a dealer doing direct imports. May be that's an option for you.
Another potential D-Box owner I was in contact with had a really good price from a Czech dealer.

The easiest way would be to contact D-Box and ask for their UK distributor or a list of dealers importing directly.

Another option would be to import it yourself. This, however, is more risky and import duties (tariffs and UK sales tax) still would apply.

Hope this helps!


Markus
post #5993 of 6360
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Originally Posted by xtremehometheatr View Post

I am really interested in a d-box chair, but they are very expensive. Do those of you whom own one already feel that is worth the money? Do you use it a lot? How important do you rank it as an essential piece in your home theater?

Not a lot to add, but the way I look at it, why wouldn't you do it if you are putting in a high-end home theater?

You can start with a couple of seats, buy the rest "D-BOX ready" and add actuators later. They do turn up used from time-to-time.

Jaymar seats are not uncomfortable to me. There are lots of seating options if they are uncomfortable to you though. Pretty big investment without knowing for sure what you want though!

I would NOT want to use the PC controller--only the standalone for me. Same reason I prefer an Oppo player or media tank to an HTPC. Just too many nagging glitches.
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Bottom line, I got my stuff used and I was on a budget. I think it is a better match for those not on a budget.
post #5994 of 6360
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Originally Posted by sanderdvd View Post

can you help me on my way how to config it?
are you still out there m8?
post #5995 of 6360
Hello Guys,

I search and reseach for few mounth d box motion for my HT.
Markus give me and good advise...thanx again for this.

Now i see on the d - box homepage under News:

Expanding our Business Solutions

09/03/2013 — D-BOX to launch new actuators by year end.

Has anybody mor Information abhout it?

All the best dirk
post #5996 of 6360
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Originally Posted by Dirk44 View Post

Hello Guys,

I search and reseach for few mounth d box motion for my HT.
Markus give me and good advise...thanx again for this.

Now i see on the d - box homepage under News:

Expanding our Business Solutions

09/03/2013 — D-BOX to launch new actuators by year end.

Has anybody mor Information abhout it?

All the best dirk

Hi Dirk,

I don't know any details, I didn't even find the press release you mentioned.

But I found the following video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhISgER_0L0

It's about a gaming application and yes, it certainly has more movement at 6", i.e. appr. 15 cm. biggrin.gif

I am wondering whether that much movement would be suitable for the (home) theater market.

Would you want to fasten your seatbelt, everytime you watch a movie? wink.gif

Cheers!

Markus
post #5997 of 6360
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Originally Posted by mv038856 View Post

Hi Dirk,

I don't know any details, I didn't even find the press release you mentioned.

But I found the following video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhISgER_0L0

It's about a gaming application and yes, it certainly has more movement at 6", i.e. appr. 15 cm. biggrin.gif

I am wondering whether that much movement would be suitable for the (home) theater market.

Would you want to fasten your seatbelt, everytime you watch a movie? wink.gif

Cheers!

Markus

Hi Dirk,

some more info on the 6" actuators: http://www.vesaro.com/blog/?m=201308

It appears to be an OEM-solution, i.e. another company using D-Box technology. Nice to know though that D-Box has something up their sleves. At least one member on this forum has repeatedly requested D-Box chairs with more movement. Now we know the technology is there. Maybe D-Box will utilize it on their own consumer products at some point...

Has anybody been able to read the press release Dirk mentioned? As of now, it can't be accessed through D-Box's website although it shows up on Google.

Cheers!

Markus
post #5998 of 6360
I had heard that the new actuators were for other types of applications (Military training, etc). They are lower profile and some with a greater range of travel. It sounded like there were no immediate plans to put in to the entertainment sector.
Edited by 7channelfreak - 10/6/13 at 6:42pm
post #5999 of 6360
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Originally Posted by drvais View Post

Did anyone catch this from Marketwire in Feb: "To support business development efforts of the Original Equipment Manufacturers' market (OEMs), D-BOX will introduce over the next few quarters, a series of new actuators offering a broader range of action and allowing for considerable lifting capacity up to 227 kilos or 500 pounds per actuator?"

Article here.

I wonder if these new actuators will be offered to the home market as well.

Reposting in light of recent discussions...
post #6000 of 6360
Yannick (from D-Box) visited the ISE in Amsterdam at the beginning of year and after this he came over to me. He told me that they are working on a 'new solution' for existing D-Box users (Home Theater). I think that now HDMI 2.0 is announced that they COULD be working on a HDMI 2.0 solution. This is just an assumption I make because new players that will be released in the future will likely not have spdif/coax anymore.
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