DVD Ripping Info and Software

DVD Shrink, DVD Decrypter, DVD FabDecryter.... All of these will process your DTS. I personally have all three and on occasion I will run into a movie that one will not rip but the others will. I always use the DTS soundtrack if available and have never had any of the stuttering issues you have experienced with these programs...

those are the two I use as well. Never a DVD one of them can't handle.

The following app is one of the only appz around that can handle the VERY latest DVD protections..

http://www.ripit4me.org/

Updates are issued on a VERY regular baisis and above all its free - very much one of the "best kept secret" appz out there.. Even Any dvd cannot deal with some of the newer stuff..

I will second the ripit4me, but I believe it is kind of an add-on for dvd-decrypter. A few movies like Madagascar needed the added help of ripit4me to process

Yes 95% of all the latest dvds now need it ,as they are protected with NEW protection schemes...

sorry for the newb question, but i have recently been intrigued to rip my dvd collection to a server. i have the denon 3930 currently which is 1080p and absolutely amazing. my question is: will the rips be 100% an exact transfer like say EAC does for audio files? if so, will it then depend on the player software to output 1080p and will this setup compete with the denon i currently use?

The rips will be 100% the same as a dvd if you want to leave them in their "native" format ie you just copy (Using various ripping programs) the raw data over from your store brought dvd to a server , in many cases a full dvd is 8.5 gig of data,meaning that if you want to keep them in that format you would need a very large server ,if you also have a extensive dvd collection.You can however, "shrink" down the size of this data by using one of the many programs available,but as always, the trade off is that you will loose quality,the more you compress the lower the bitrate will be..

Please dont feel bad about asking newbie questions , as we all had to start somewhere with this stuff,so please ask any other you like,however stupid you think they may sound...

Regards

Teddy

hey thanks. im pretty new to eac and flac as well. i know that setup is usually the hardest but once its up and running, everythiny goes by smoothly. since hdd are coming down in price, i don't mind spending the money on storage but i would want 100% exact transfer so i guess its safe to say that i won't be compressing the files. so in this case, exactly what file type will the dvd be (and how do you do it so that you get the menu, tracks, etc)? thanks again.

Agree with teddystacker... Just to add to his information, with most of the dvd ripping software available you can just rip the main movie and leave out the menus and extra languages and extras to save HD space without compromising the actual movie quality. For me with over 200 movies on my server this has saved a ton of space. In some cases you can reduce an 8 Gig DVD rip to 5.5 or 6 Gig. It adds up really quickly. I know some people are purest and prefer to have the complete DVD with menus and all but once I weighed how many extra movies I could fit on my server by just ripping the main movie I decided to go that direction... It really comes down to personal preferences...

Oh and there are no stupid questions in this forum, we were all in your shoes at one point or another! Welcome to the world of DVD Servers! You will love it!

Try Imgburn carries on from where DVD Decrypter Left off.
www.Imgburn.com

This is NOT strictly true, Imgburn is is simply a burning package , it has nothing todo with ripping dvds...

This depends on what you are going to use to play the dvds , if you are using a hardware player,say something like the MG-35 or MG-350HD , you can use the "ripit4me" and then set "decrypter" to rip in "ISO" format , this means that it will take the DVD in your drive and then rip it to a SINGLE file with a ISO extension , the MG 35 will then play this single file off your server , as if it were a real dvd with all the menus etc etc..

Or

You can just rip all the files on the dvd into a folder called the same name as the movie , and then just play it with something like "Power DVD" if you are using aPC to play your content..

If , and when you get there , if you email me , I wil gladly lead you thru the settings etc etc step by step..

I'm just curious as I don't have the setup for it right now, but do all of these apps work with HD DVDs as well?

Also, I've ripped VOB before but I've never tried to maintain all of the menus, etc., how would one do that, would it end up being in an IFO form? Does something like DVD Decrypter do that or do you need some burner software to burn TS file directories back to an IFO?

Thanks,

Steve

ETA: Looks like stacker answered some of my questions. For some reason I thought DVDs used IFO not ISO, what's an IFO file? I was looking to use with with a TVIX (m4000).

No, the current apps will NOT work for HD/Blue Ray dvds , as these use totally different (and much much stronger) protection schemes to stop piracy - but I hear at least one of these formats has already been partly broken , so its only a matter of time till similar apps surface..

The combo of "Ripit4me"/"Dvd Decrypter" will rip all the files for you from a standard dvd and maintain all the menus etc (if you dont want it this way it will also just rip the main move) - These tools are very simple to use if you read the manuals for them ,but are in essence, very simple to use,with simple options.
The settings allow you to rip in both ifo (multiple files as the same structure as the orginal dvd was) or in ISO format (Where all the ifo and vob file are "packed" into a single .iso file.

Ifo files are simply sort of index files for a dvd,with .vob file actually containing the sound and vision data that is encrypted with a key to prevent piracy..

I think your TVIX is like the MG-35 and will be able to handle dvd's in both .iso and .ifo format , ripping to ISO is more conveient as you end up with just a single file for each dvd instead of having to create a directory for each dvd and then have multiple .ifo and .vob files in it...

Feel free to ask more,if I have not explained well enough..

No, that's perfect I'm sure I can figure it out. I was just curious about the HD DVDs because above Anthony was talking about 1080p. I'm not aware of any media devices that play 1080p, but even if they did, if he's ripping his standard DVD collection he's not going to get anywhere near that right?

I sort of figured people were getting HD content with either capture cards (or downloading something someone else captured), but I wanted to make sure.

Thanks for the help.

-Steve

good question. i would like to add a little more to this myself. i believe dvd's are all recorded in 480i. if this is the case, i assume that by using a ripper it will rip it also into 480i? and if this is the case, would using powerdvd allow you to choose what output mode you want when playing the dvd (eg. 720p?) if this is the case, then what exactly does the conversion since dvd players use say faroudja chips for this conversion? im a bit confused and need some clarifying as well.

Having only Standard rez gear myself,I cannot really help on the HD questions , all I know is that if you rip a dvd yusing the methods I gave , what you have on your hard disk is EXACTLY the same as the orginal DVD (Minus the protection stuff) , so what ever rez a normal dvd wil produce , wil also be produced by the files you now have on your hard disk...

after a full day of "researching" this forum, i have concluded that the media streamer is the one responsible for stuttering and screwing up audio. almost all of the threads of various different streamers, there is constant complaints of stuttering. some don't ever experience it, while many others do. it could be a compatibility thing with other gear, but some units are more prone to it than others. if you check out the ar thread, most of the users have complaints of stuttering so i would really think of this as the problem and not the ripper per say. im still reading and searching for one that the general consensus is that it plays back a full iso file flawlessly. hey teddy, thanks for the insight. your comments are much appreciated!!!

I am new to this, well at least the dvd ripping stuff. I was looking for recommended affordable NAS drives and a streaming device that is as decent as me roku 1000 but would let me an osd on my television while selecting audio files so won't have to strain my eyes looking at the roku across the screen. Well while researching, I've become keen to the idea of a dvd streamer. The last couple of days I have pratically reading the forums all day,( when I should be working on my college projects). I still however am not sure where to begin. I know what I would like to end up but I have many questions and my brain feels like it's melting.

I have started another thread about how to go about this with hardware so I will try to gear questions to the act of dvd ripping.

Some on this sight pointed me to a search on google about this and so I did. First, I would like to state that I am interested in ripping my dvd collection for my viewing in my dedicated theater and my second family room/living room theater. I would also like to be to take some movies and put them on a memory stick so my kids can watch some movies on their psp console.

As mentioned before, with the help of some one on this sight I searched on google on how to rip dvd. I still however am not sure about a few things like would the ripped dvd still act like a dvd, meaning will the menus be there?

What about dolby digital or Dts. Can that be done, because if I can't keep dolby digital or Dts, I must go the DVD changer route.

Also what about compression? Oh and another thing, I can't remeber exactly where I read this, but one of the sites from google mentioned about needing a powerful processor or the ripping would take all day. I have a old 2 gig computer with 256 ram that I am using, would this be problem matic? I'm trying or hoping that it's possible to trick the computer to use an used 80 gig hardrive as extra ram but I'm not an computer expert. Other than that I am trying to buy a used laptop for college purposes so upgrading to a new computer is not an option.

I hope you all can point me to right path of enlightenment.

one more question, kind of off the subject, but where is everyone getting their HD content to stream? I have a moxi enabled dvr from charter but I don't know how to get the hd content off that. Wait is just thought of one more question, I have some non hd content on my dvr that I have had for about a year, the diy hometheater series from the diy network and a news cast from when a semi crashed through my wifes bakery knocking her back 20 feet and only leaving a broken pair of glasses and some bruises. I want to record to a dvd-r disck and the ripped to the computer, but I am not sure if you can ripp or copy a copy, can you?

I've used ritfor4me too. There are ways to get the newer stuff to rip with DVD decrypter but it can be a pain.

is one ripper preferred over the other (ie the most accurate rips possible) and say use ripit4me only on ones that are newer? what is the best suggestion?

Have all three in your arsenal.... That is the best advice anyone can give you... Depending on the protection, one may perform better than the other... Ripit4me works very well and is upgraded often so it should handle most in not all your ripping needs. With that being said, you should keep a copy of DVD Shrink and DVD Decryptor for the odd emergencies...

Just to avoid confusion here


DVD Shrink,Fix VTS and DVD Decryptor are **ALL** used as part of the "Ripit4me" suite , Ripit is really only a shell/batch running type program.When you first run it,it checks to see if the required other programs are installed , and then runs the other three programs automatically - Sounds complex , but it is not..

So what I am saying here is that DVD Decryptor , is not just to be "used the odd emergencies" , its actually needed as part of the Ripit4me suite..

There is really no need to even look at any other package , as AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME "Ripit4me" is the only real tool you should consider.

Anydvd is kinda being left behind a little these days,as it does not always remove the protection enough for Shrink to work in most eases....

Slysofts Clone dvd (When used in conjunction with Anydvd) will work on most of the newer stuff , but is not as flexiable as Shrink

Gottcha teddystacker....

I personally use AnyDVD and DVD Shrink and have yet to find a new or old release that it can't rip...

I have Ripit4me and I have tinkered with it but I always go back to the method I am most comfortable with...lol

I agree-AnyDVD is transparent to the user. Just pop the disc in and explore the drive. Select the Video_ts folder and drag and drop it to where you want to copy it to on your HDD, or copy/pase. Go get a cup of coffee and when you get back the dvd is there waiting for you in the naked unemcumbered form it should have been in the first place were it not for paranoid studios trying to enforce their business models on consumers for decades.
No need for decrypter, no need for shrink, no need for ripit4me, and soon they will have AnyHD-DVD! (and maybe AnyBlu-Ray??)

Good luck.

boxker - I'm pretty sure DVD ripping really needs a lot of memory. I would think 512MB or more. What you are referring to using the hard drive for memory is called a "RAM Drive", which is very slow relative to real memory. My gut instinct is you would spend many moons instead of hours ripping a DVD

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I have a couple of questions on the subject. I've successfully used AnyDVD + CloneDVD2 a couple of times in the past. I just ordered the TViX 4000 and an Infrant ReadyNAS NV+, so I'm bout to start ripping all of our 200+ DVDs. So, I want to get the best info I can before I spend too many hours of wasted ripping...

teddystacker - is your opinion that AnyDVD + CloneDVD works well, but doesn't have as many ripping options/features as others?

Scotty6595 - have you tried AnyDVD + CloneDVD and found you prefer DVD Shrink? Any specific reasons?

qz3fwd - when you use the AnyDVD + drag-n-drop, is this basically equal to ripping the DVD into what is called the "ifo" format? Do you use anything to rip to iso?

I haven't decided if I want to preserve the complete original (iso or ifo), original format of the movie only, or compressed format (xvid?). It seems like a single file per DVD will simplify things a lot. Can someone tell me if I rip to ISO, can I then use some software to convert the iso to compressed format? Is xvid the recommended compressed format and what software should I use?

Thanks for any info you can provide to help guide my way Thanks.

Chad R.

I'm about to start ripping my 200+ DVD's to use with a TViX 4000. Anyone have any suggestions or comments pertaining to my questions on the above post?

Sorry for not answering sooner Chad...

As for your question directed to me... I have never used CloneDVD and have always used DVD Shrink so I can't really state if one is better than the other. Once DVD shrink started running into the new copy protection schemes I go AnyDVD because essentially it would decrypt the DVD at the drive and Shrink sees the DVD as unencrypted...(which it is after AnyDVD does its thing..) With all that being said, I rip to .ISO and Shrink does this in basically a couple of clicks and does it well. Shrink will also address your question about compressing of files. It allows you "shrink" a movie down. Of course you will have no menu functionality with a shrinked movie but the importance of that is up to your own tastes.

Personally if I were in your position and just starting to rip my library I would give all the free decryptors a go before spending any money on software. Most of the freeware is as powerful if not more so when it comes to decryption and ripping.