1080P24 and 2.35:1

I'm still now sure if I'm going with BD...

The Lumagen HDQ will almost get you there now, and is promised to in the very near future. Right now the HDP/Pro/HDQ will accept 1080p24 on the inputs, process/stretch, and output at 1080 psf (48i), or 48P, and they promise a firmware upgrade in the very near future to output 24p. I have been happy running 1080p48 out of the Lumagen HDQ into my Pearl / UH380 combo. Something to think about are HDMI audio issues. If you care about HDMI audio, you pretty much have to run at 1080i at this point because most receivers have issues with 1080p. I have the HD-XA2 and I send 1080i into the Lumagen.

For what it's worth, the DVDO VP50 will not accept a 1080p24 input signal. However, it will accept either 1080i60 or 1080p60 and frame rate convert them to 1080p24.

Not exactly what you want, but thought I'd mention it.

I also have the VW50 and want to use it in a 2,35:1 CIH setup. I also want a BR player that will output 1080p24, so 1080p24 input is a "must have".


I did not know that. Thank you for the information. I was actuelly considering the VP50, but that rules it out...


I need the following from a VP;

1. HDMI 1080p24/25 input (film-based material) -> vertical stretch for anamorphic lens -> HDMI 1080p24/25 output

2. HDMI 1080i60/50 input (film-based material) -> vertial stretch for anamorphic lens -> HDMI 1080p24/25 output

3. HDMI 720p60/50 input (film-based material) -> vertical stretch for anamorphic lens -> HDMI 1080p24/25 output

The VW-50 does not accept 1080p48 input, so I need 1080p24 output on HDMI from the VP...

i'm using the Sony Blue Ray and Tosh XA2----> Crystalio II--->Pearl---->ISCO III---->2:35 (115" x 49" da-lite pearlecent 1.7 gain).

i'm embarrased to say i'm not sure about the 1080p24 or not. i know the Crystalio does the 1080p 24 but not sure if i am taking advantage or not.

what i can say is that it looks amazing......big, bold, fantastic resolution and no jaggies.

i just got new 2-channel speakers (in another room) so haven't watched a movie for a couple of weeks. when i can i'll check out the 1080p 24 and report back.

An HTPC will also do the trick. You can run PowerDVD Ultra and YXY for the scaling. It can also output 24P, 24PsF, or 48P. I would suggest either a Leadtek 8800GTX or an ATI X1950XTX video card. Both will also do HDCP. Powerstrip is useful for tweaking the refresh rate.

Vern

The Pearl VW-50 most certainly does accept 1080p48 and display it correctly. The manual does not say anything about 1080p48 being an accepted rate, but it does work.

As to the above, the Lumagen HDP/Pro/HDQ does everything above except the output has to be 48p/50p today (24p/25p output promised soon via firmware), and the ins and outs are DVI not HDMI.

As far as I know the Pearl will not accept 1080p48 from DVDO VP50, but it does accept it from Lumagen VPs and the Crystalio 2. I am not sure about the others...

Yes, but in my experience, the 1080p24 output from the VP50 is not exactly stable. There is intermittent image tearing corrected by pausing the DVD signal. This has also been reported by cine4home.
Do you think there may be a VP50 firmware update to

1:solve the output instability

2;enable input of 1080p24 signals?

Are you using the original firmware or the 1.01 beta?

I'm outputting 720p48 and it's perfectly stable. Don't know about 1080p24.

I am running the 1.01beta.
I have a Panasonic AX100 PJ which accepts 1080p24. I presume you have a CRT PJ to accept that resolution and framerate.

Is the Lumagen HDQ able to convert 1080i60 to 1080p48?

Yes, it does. I almost always run a 1080p48 output from my HDQ except for the rare occasions I'm watching 1080i video (Discovery HD).

Nice, thanks!

No, my DLP model can accept and display 48hz as well.

Crystalio II can do it all.
For 1080i/50 it will output 1080p/50.

Is there a 1080p/25 source yet?

Not reliably, unfortunately. There are tearing issues in some configurations when running 24 Hz. I know, I have a Crystalio 3800. Poor scaling options with some serious gotchas, like inadaquate support for non-square pixels, and letterbox, inability to scale an image larger than the output resolution, HDCP handshake issues, etc. etc. etc.

Unfortunately PM has announced yet another product without finishing the previous one.

Gave up on it and went back to the good old HTPC for DVD and HD playback. I still use it for TV, however.

Vern

Both HD DVD and BD playback using PowerDVD Ultra and the good old standby YXY for scaling and AR control. Using SW decode mode (DXVA disabled). 7.1 channel analog out for audio. YXY was actually the precusrsor to both Zoom Player and Theatertek for AR control a number of years ago.

HW List:
Asus P5B mobo, Intel Core 2 Duo 6700, NVidia 8800GTS or ATI X1950 XTX video card (2 different systems), Auzen X_Meridian 7.1 sound card, MCE 2005. HDMI out at either 1080 60I or 1080 24PsF to the projector.

Vern

The Gennum VXP scaler of the Anthem D2 (or AVM50) can do it.

The D2 accept 1080p24, can then apply the vertical strecth, and ouput 1080p24 out (and some Pearl users were able to found the perfect timing to work with the D2 at 1080p24).

Vern
I also have a Qualia and am driving it from my 8800GTS. I am connected directly from the DVI output to the HDMI input on the projector. Is it possible to get the 8800GTS to output 24PsF? I am currently just using 1080i (my Qualia doesn't have the 1080p upgrade). I can't remember why, but I was happier with the direct connect to my Qualia than going through my Lumagen VisionPro HDP processor. I know that my Lumagen can convert to 24PsF, but I'd rather have the 8800 output it directly (I think).
I am using the OEM version of PDVD that came with my LG dual mode drive. I generally rip movies to my NAS and then playback from the NAS. All my HTPC does is play DVD, HDDVD, and BluRay movies.
Thanks
Mike