"Official" Audyssey thread (FAQ in post #1) - Page 835

Just got the Pro calibration done. Will post more details later. However one thing is for sure, the built in Audyssey setup in both the 40.1 and 80.1 are off by 5dBC from reference level. After Pro calibration, now the test tones do measure around 75dBC for all channels with my Galaxy CM-140 mic. The Integra DHC 40.1(built-in..meaning what comes with the box) with MultEQ and the Integra DHC 80.1 with MultEQ XT (built-in) both reported only around 70dBC. This proves that my CM-140 was not off but both the 40.1 and 80.1 are off. Just thought I should let you guys know as there was no clear answer for this earlier.

Solved the problem! Just don't get ahead of yourself and do the complete diagram hookup of everything.

Bill

I KEEP getting the ambient noise too high message when the only noise in the room is some rain outside and a computer fan. What else can I do? Could the mic be broken?

The mic is not broken. Stop the rain and turn off the computer and you will be fine

I've done it with this computer on before... not sure about the rain but it is lower than the fan. I ran as-eq1 fine just before this. I am running eq xt in the onkyo 805 when the problem occurs

perhaps the rain does not have significant SPL in the frequencies that the EQ1 listens to, while regular multEQ needs to hear the treble clearly to adjust your other spkrs. Just a thought.

Everything is completed! Sub EQ setup and Pro done on the Integra DHC 9.9. Chris & All, it is 20 times better then when Pro alone had done on the Integra DHC 9.9. The sub Equalizer made a huge difference with the dual subs and the are all calibrated to the Left front speaker and only vary 1.5 db between them all. Man, it was worth the learning curve. No more messing around with it all for me (maybe) for awhile. At least until I get the SDA crossovers rebuilt.

Bill

Hoping to get some help with my Audessy..

Have an Onkyo HT-RC160 receiver. Originally just had 2 front speakers and sub, ran the Audessey and all went fine.

Today I hooked up 2 new rear speakers...ran the Audesssey and it gives a "Speaker Detect Error" when it reached the Back right speaker (never made it to the Left Rear). Thing is I could hear the pulse sound coming through that back speaker and then it gave the speaker detect error anyways. Retried it about 4 times and same thing happens each time.

Weird thing is when I manually set the speaker both backs work fine so it's not a broken speaker or incorrect hookup or anything (as far as I can tell anyways.

What's the fix here for Auddessey to work and detect the back speakers?

Make sure you hooked them up as side surround speakers, and not back surround.

Really? But they are back surrounds and not side surrounds.....why should they be hooked up as side surrounds?

Congratulations!!

In a 5.1 system, the only surrounds that are possible are ... "surrounds" ... and only a 7.1 system will have both surrounds and "rear surrounds." In a 5.1 system, Audyssey will give the error you mentioned if it does not find speakers connected to the "surround" channels.

Jeff

Huh, appreciate the thoughts...I'll give this a try tomorrow (remove from back surrounds and hook them up to the side surround ports). Thanks!

Thanks for that tidbit, I didn't realize that!

I will have to give a try as well, thanks!

My system is an onkyo 807 connected to energy c-7, cc3, cr1 x4 and encore sub connected as 7.1, I reconfigure to connect the 2x cr1 as height, my question is can I use the cr1 as wide, cr1 is a bipolar surround spkr, will I see better results? if i use it as wide, it will be on the window and side wall to satisfy the 45 deg, if not, what kind of small spkr can I use, or should I just use it as height.

Can I use DSX listening mode when its connected as height, looks like when I use plz i can hear height contents but with dsx sounds better but like no height sound, what listening mode is best for heights spkr

Technically, the correct terminology for them is (simply) "surrounds" with the second pair being "rear surrounds" or "back surrounds."

Jeff

I am pretty sure that DSX Wides and/or Heights should be monopoles.

Wides are +/- 60°, not 45°.

does it mean that the height speaker that Im using is wrong, I don't want to buy new one, should I put it back to my rear

How does it sound?

i have no reference as I'm new to audyssey, i can hear my height but its kind of like scattered, if i compare with my previous 7.1, using pioneer ax5ai last time, on dvd, i would say its an improvement, but there are 3 major thinks i change source= blu ray, amp change to 807 and speaker connected to height, im reading that wide is better, since your saying that it is also wrong to connect a bipole as height, why not i connect it as wide, im thinking of getting those encore spkrs, what do you thinK, im asking here first as its not that easy to transfer spkr and run audyssey again

As a side note...I think that Audyssey MultXT does a very great job for an automatic system. Obviously the Pro version allows more tweaking. I also think that some peoples complaint about how it handles LFE is more related to sub placement and the quality of the sub being used. Just my 2 cents.

Had the house to myself most of today so had a play around with various bits of kit...my usual setup consists of an Onkyo 807 with a Rotel 1075 power amp and a full 5.1 set of Jamo THX certified D6 speakers...

When I ran Audyssey on the 807 with the 1075 connected, the distances and levels are pretty much spot on but I have to adjust the crossover as it always sets them to low...running it with an Onkyo 906 with the 1075 connected gives the same results distance and levels wise but it always gets the crossovers smack on at 80hz.
When I run the Audyssey on the 807 without the 1075 attached, the results are the same as with it connected - which is pretty much what I expected...however...

When run with the 906 on it's own, the distance and levels are fine but the crossovers are always to high on the front left and right channels - with the centre and surrounds spot on at 80hz...7 runs on the Audyssey on the 906 alone gave the same distance and levels every time but varying crossover from 90 - 150hz...and as we know, you can raise the crossover, but you can't take it down...hence the 7 runs when I eventually gave up.

Have now got the 807 back in (without the 1075) and it's given me the same results as before so it's not a knackered speaker it seems...

Any ideas anybody?

hi guys im neww here and is from the philippines. i own an Onkyo HT RC180 twin of the 807, im running dsx and is wondering if i need to toe in the front and front wide speakers si milra to how the diagram shows it.

appreciate all the help i can get Thanks a lot

Hi Brian,

It seems that you are trying over and over so that you can get an 80 Hz result. I don't think that's a realistic goal. Although THX speakers are designed to roll off at 80 Hz, that is a theoretical design. Placing the speakers in the room will have a big effect on their low frequency performance. Even 5 identical speakers placed in different spots in the room will never show the same performance. That is the whole point of measuring in your room!

MultEQ uses all measurements to find the roll off point of the speakers. So, variations in the placement of the mic will likely give you different numbers. The recommended mic placements are discussed here.

This worked like a charm. Thanks much!

Toe in is always recommended for all direct-readiating speakers. You will have to run the calibration again if you change them because there will be changes in the high frequency response.

Hi Chris,

Thank you so much for responding quickly to my query, prior to me reading this, I actually toed in my speakers, moved the front wide a little farther from the front and re run the audyssey. Another query from my end is that everytime I run the audyssey, it provides me negative db level for level calibration results for all speakers just like the audyssey i did a while ago, my problem is that, i need to crank up the volume level to more than 50 percent that is if the maximum is 100, the volume has to be set to around 70 to 75 for me to be at my desired listening level, im a bit worried that it might damage the receiver. Im actually using an Onkyo HT RC 180 and SVS subwoofer with gain set to around 10 o clock. By the way I sent you a PM hope its OK. Thank again

Hi,

The first thing to get over is the notion of "Audyssey sets negative levels for my speakers" as if that is somehow a "problem". One important part of system calibration is the ability to know what reference listening level is. Depending on the distance from your speakers and their sensitivity, it is very common for them to have to be turned down so that reference level can be achieved with the master volume control at 0. These negative (or positive) adjustments to the speakers levels are simply relative numbers that make all speakers play at the same level as required for proper calibration.

Now, from your description it sounds like you may also have Dynamic Volume engaged. This is a technology whose job it is to keep the volume from getting too loud! It is intended for evening listening or when you want to avoid turning the volume up and down for dialog and commercials. When it's on, you simply set the master volume to the dialog level you prefer and then you won't have to worry about keeping your hand on the volume control. If you want to listen with the volume control at a lower number then you should turn Dynamic Volume off.

There is no chance of damaging the receiver by listening at 70-75% volume levels!

I did an initial audyssey test on my new Denon 1910 and paradigm setup (s2 fronts, c1 center, S1 surrounds). This is just a preliminary since my speakers will be moving slightly in the coming weeks.

I have 2 questions from this. The 1st is that Audyssey told me that my C1 center is out of phase and i checked the wiring and it is correct. What does this mean?

The 2nd question is on the crossovers. It set my S2's at 40, my C1 at 80 and my S1's at 60. What would be recommended #'s to put these at? Leave them or bumb them up? I have a DSP-3100 sub.

Thanks,

Andy

Hi Andy. Welcome. As your OM indicates, once you confirm the speaker is correctly wired, just chose "Skip" to continue autosetup.

As to crossovers, I'd reset all to 80 and have a listen. You should take a look at the batpig guide, an invaluable resource for Denon owners, and the Audyssey setup guide, both of which answer these and many more questions. BTW if you have not been there, the 1910 owners thread is great, too. Edit: Oh, I see you have been. Enjoy.