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post #32521 of 62235
Thanks by your prompt response and by the advice related to the Audyssey misspelling. I corrected the original message.

We will revert to the original values and inform the results.

Maybe it is a little off-topic. But what is the procedure to reset the 7002 microprocessor?

Thank you very much by your cooperation.

Best Regards,

Marcos

Q.J.A
post #32522 of 62235
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Originally Posted by mtavares View Post

...what is the procedure to reset the 7002 microprocessor?...

Owner's Manual p.82, "How to reset the unit."
post #32523 of 62235
Chris,

Will Audyssey Pro v3.4 have the continuous average feature (when setting sub levels) for the Denon AVR-4311CI that the Audyssey Sub EQ currently has in Audyssey Pro v3.3? I noticed that this feature isn't built into the consumer version of MultEQ XT32 in the AVR.
post #32524 of 62235
I have a Denon AVR-4311CI with the new Audyssey SubEQ HT technology. I believe my subs are now out of phase which is weird because all I did was simply remove my Audyssey Sub EQ (and Denon 3808) from the equation. The cable that was plugged into SubA (on the back of the Sub EQ) is now plugged into SW1 (on the back of the 4311)... and the same for SubB/SW2.

Does the Audyssey Sub Equalizer do anything differently than SubEQ HT in regards to determining distances, time-alignment, etc?

My subs are working harder now and putting out considerable less SPL.

Since I'm planning on calibrating my 4311 with Audyssey Pro, I haven't taken the time to re-run Audyssey on my 4311.

For now I'm looking to see if anyone else has experienced anything similar or has any insight.
post #32525 of 62235
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Originally Posted by counsil View Post

I noticed that this feature isn't built into the consumer version of MultEQ XT32 in the AVR.

Doug,
I'm not sure why you would think that. The coarse subwoofer level matching is there in Step 2 of the 4311 calibration process.
post #32526 of 62235
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Originally Posted by counsil View Post


Does the Audyssey Sub Equalizer do anything differently than SubEQ HT in regards to determining distances, time-alignment, etc?

No. It's the same process.

Quote:


My subs are working harder now and putting out considerable less SPL.

Since I'm planning on calibrating my 4311 with Audyssey Pro, I haven't taken the time to re-run Audyssey on my 4311.

Have you set the level for the sub channel in the 4311? It was set in your 3808, but if you haven't yet run MultEQ on the 4311 I would think that the sub levels are not set correctly.
post #32527 of 62235
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Originally Posted by audyssey View Post

Doug,
I'm not sure why you would think that. The coarse subwoofer level matching is there in Step 2 of the 4311 calibration process.

Chris,

The values jump around (+/- 2dB) on the level matching screen in the 4311. Audyssey Pro for the Sub Equalizer seems to utilize a continuous averaging algorithm as the value continues to get more and more precise.
post #32528 of 62235
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Originally Posted by audyssey View Post

Have you set the level for the sub channel in the 4311? It was set in your 3808, but if you haven't yet run MultEQ on the 4311 I would think that the sub levels are not set correctly.

I have run Audyssey on my 4311, but only once. I am waiting on Audyssey Pro v3.4 before I take the time to re-run Audyssey on my 4311.

Addition...

More than likely, a second (or third) run of Audyssey in the 4311 would clear up my "issue". I was just trying to gather some insight as to whether or not the Audyssey Sub Equalizer did something differently when time-aligning the subs. That's all.
post #32529 of 62235
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Originally Posted by counsil View Post

Chris,

The values jump around (+/- 2dB) on the level matching screen in the 4311. Audyssey Pro for the Sub Equalizer seems to utilize a continuous averaging algorithm as the value continues to get more and more precise.

True. The MultEQ Pro software on the PC has the benefit of "infinite" memory. Not so, for the onboard memory in the AVR. In any case this is a coarse setting stage and is only there to make sure that the volume controls on the subs are not way out of range. It has no bearing on the actual sub level setting that happens in the next step when you actually run MultEQ.
post #32530 of 62235
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Originally Posted by audyssey View Post

It has no bearing on the actual sub level setting that happens in the next step when you actually run MultEQ.

That's what I thought. I just like the Audyssey Pro implementation of the level-matching screen because I (and others) use it gain-match the subs associated to a single sub output (if you have > 1 sub associated to that output ) on the AVR (or Sub Equalizer/AS-EQ1).

That functionality is very, very useful to me (and others).

Thanks for clearing that up. I was hoping to became a Beta tester for v3.4. Hint, hint, wink, wink.
post #32531 of 62235
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Originally Posted by counsil View Post

I was hoping to became a Beta tester for v3.4. Hint, hint, wink, wink.

Chris,

Since Counsil brought up the subject, may we have an update on when to expect version 3.4 software? Obviously, many forum participants are anxious to see this upgrade. And some, like myself, purchased the Pro kit specifically to use with XT32.

Thanks,
Jerry
post #32532 of 62235
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Chris,

Since Counsil brought up the subject, may we have an update on when to expect version 3.4 software? Obviously, many forum participants are anxious to see this upgrade. And some, like myself, purchased the Pro kit specifically to use with XT32.

Yeah, no pressure or anything, Chris.

Jeff
post #32533 of 62235
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Chris,

Since Counsil brought up the subject, may we have an update on when to expect version 3.4 software?

Should be up on our site by Friday this week
post #32534 of 62235
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Originally Posted by audyssey View Post

Should be up on our site by Friday this week

Which devices will be added?
post #32535 of 62235
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Which devices will be added?

Denon AVR 4311CI, AVR-A100
Marantz AV8005, AV7005, SR7005
Integra DTR 70.2, DTR 80.2, DHC 80.2
Onkyo PR-SC5508
post #32536 of 62235
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Originally Posted by audyssey View Post

Denon AVR 4311CI, AVR-A100
Marantz AV8005, AV7005, SR7005
Integra DTR 70.2, DTR 80.2, DHC 80.2
Onkyo PR-SC5508

Good to see that they added "Pro-ready" to the 5508 after dropping it on the 5507.

Jeff
post #32537 of 62235
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Originally Posted by audyssey View Post

Denon AVR 4311CI, AVR-A100
Marantz AV8005, AV7005, SR7005
Integra DTR 70.2, DTR 80.2, DHC 80.2
Onkyo PR-SC5508

Good. I'll need a couple of those soon.
post #32538 of 62235
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Originally Posted by audyssey View Post

Denon AVR 4311CI, AVR-A100
Marantz AV8005, AV7005, SR7005
Integra DTR 70.2, DTR 80.2, DHC 80.2
Onkyo PR-SC5508

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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Good to see that they added "Pro-ready" to the 5508 after dropping it on the 5507.

Jeff

Hi Guys,

Unfortunately Onkyo representatives seemed confused about this issue.


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Originally Posted by LarryChanin View Post

Hi John,

I sent the following message to Onkyo:

To onkyo@onkyousa.com

Subject PR-SC5508P related question from Onkyo PRO website

Comments: Can you please definitively confirm that the PR-SC5508P will be released as Audyssey Pro Installer-Ready without a future firmware upgrade.

The reason I ask is because your website initially indicated that the previous model, the PR-SC5507P, was Installer-Ready, but later the website was changed to remove that feature.

Thanks.



Here's the response:

Thank You for contacting Onkyo USA Product Support.

Audyssey Pro is only being offered on the Integra models not Onkyo or Onkyo Pro.

Thanks
Jose

Larry
post #32539 of 62235
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Originally Posted by LarryChanin View Post

Hi Guys,

Unfortunately Onkyo representatives seemed confused about this issue.

Larry

I was confused as well and my first reply to Chris was to question his post. But Onkyo's website says it is Pro-ready. I am surprised as there are no current Pro-ready models in Onkyo's line.

Jeff
post #32540 of 62235
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

I was confused as well and my first reply to Chris was to question his post. But Onkyo's website says it is Pro-ready. I am surprised as there are no current Pro-ready models in Onkyo's line.

Jeff

Hi Jeff,

Yes, Onkyo's flip-flopping on offerring Audyssey Pro on its preamplifiers is definately a head stratcher. First its on for the 885 and 886, then its off for the 5507, and now apparently its on for the 5508, even though an Onkyo representative says that it is not available.

Chris' input certainly adds credibility that Onkyo has reversed its position again and that the 5508 will be installer-ready. However, the fact that the Onkyo website says the 5508 is installer-ready means little since initially it also stated that the 5507 was installer-ready, and so far that has never happened.

I'll certainly be interested in hearing the reactions of the first owner of the 5508 to run an Audyssey Pro calibration.

Larry
post #32541 of 62235
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Originally Posted by LarryChanin View Post

Hi Jeff,

Yes, Onkyo's flip-flopping on offerring Audyssey Pro on its preamplifiers is definately a head stratcher. First its on for the 885 and 886, then its off for the 5507, and now apparently its on for the 5508, even though an Onkyo representative says that it is not available.

Chris' input certainly adds credibility that Onkyo has reversed its position again and that the 5508 will be installer-ready. However, the fact that the Onkyo website says the 5508 is installer-ready means little since initially it also stated that the 5507 was installer-ready, and so far that has never happened.

I'll certainly be interested in hearing the reactions of the first owner of the 5508 to run an Audyssey Pro calibration.

Larry

'Twill be interesting to see how this unfolds. I am most anxious, however, for the Outlaw 978 to be announced. If that has XT 32 and is Pro-ready, then it will most likely be my next pre/pro. I have little hope, though, that it will be Pro-ready being an internet-direct piece, but it is still worth waiting for, IMO.

Jeff
post #32542 of 62235
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

Keep al ur measure points near ur primary listening position make a circle around ur ears. Then after done set speaker levels with meter. See if bass is better for u this. If so u might expand ur measurement points but do not go overboard. Audessey FAQ has good suggestions for this.

So is your real name "jmschnyour" and you just chose to Bieber your words?
post #32543 of 62235
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Originally Posted by jpjibberjabber View Post

So is your real name "jmschnyour" and you just chose to Bieber your words?

And you're what, the parse police?
post #32544 of 62235
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Originally Posted by jpjibberjabber View Post

So is your real name "jmschnyour" and you just chose to Bieber your words?

I would agree. I usually just scan or skip such ill-conceived posts.
post #32545 of 62235
I would like to use Audyssey, but I am having problems with my center channel dialogue after running it. All of the dialogue coming from the center channel has an odd and muffled "echo" effect making is sound like everyone is wearing a glass jug on their head or something. When I shut off Audyssey - the dialogue sounds fine. I am using a Denon 4311ci receiver with Paradigm Studio speakers. Any ideas on what this issue is?
post #32546 of 62235
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Originally Posted by schnoogans37 View Post

I would like to use Audyssey, but I am having problems with my center channel dialogue after running it. All of the dialogue coming from the center channel has an odd and muffled "echo" effect making is sound like everyone is wearing a glass jug on their head or something. When I shut off Audyssey - the dialogue sounds fine. I am using a Denon 4311ci receiver with Paradigm Studio speakers. Any ideas on what this issue is?

Where is your center channel speaker and how is it positioned relative to your ears when in the main listening position?

Jeff
post #32547 of 62235
originally I had it sitting directly on a stage (before building a stand), and assumed that effect might be from having it so far off from ear level.

It is now behind an acoustically transparent screen (from seymour av), I reran audyssey with it in its new location (right at ear level) and the same thing happened with the dialogue.
post #32548 of 62235
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Originally Posted by schnoogans37 View Post

originally I had it sitting directly on a stage (before building a stand), and assumed that effect might be from having it so far off from ear level.

It is now behind an acoustically transparent screen (from seymour av), I reran audyssey with it in its new location (right at ear level) and the same thing happened with the dialogue.

On a stand at ear level and aimed directly at your ears? Any acoustical treatments around it? Dynamic EQ on or off?
post #32549 of 62235
Yes, on a stand aimed directly at my ears at ear level. Dynamic EQ I had off.
post #32550 of 62235
I have only ran it for one position though. I haven't done the 8 position thing, but could that really be the difference with the dialogue audio being so distorted?
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