"Official" Audyssey thread (FAQ in post #1) - Page 1227

It basically depends on your sub's upper limit as detected by Audyssey.

I agree here some subs do movies very well with LFE & the like, handling sound effects extremely precise, all the while that same sub is very sloppy & slow playing music.
some subs do music very tight & keep up quite well when playing music but fail horribly for LFE in an Action Movie (gun shots,explosions ,thunder,artillery impacts,helicopters ,trains & aircraft )
AND there are a few subs that do BOTH music & HT LFE Very Well .

I am with you, though my experience was successively with MultEQ, AS-EQ1 and then MultEQ Pro. At each bump up, everything got better .. in the main listening position as well as the other five seats.

Jeff

IMO, the main benefit of XT 32 is the huge increase in filter resolution on the main channels, specifically with respect to the filters' ability to attack problems under the Schroeder Frequency on those main channels.

Jeff

that's where I was pointing out that some subs are Not capable , your splitting hairs now

MultEQ won't boost above the -3dB point. If you sub goes comfortably to over 100Hz .. most go to 150Hz or higher .. then your crossovers could be 100Hz without any content being lost.

Jeff

Indeed that is why I am still on the hunt to see what I can do to tame the harsh mids that I am getting from Audyssey so that I can enjoy the benefits of this so very well accepted technology. If the response I get is typical for lot of folks, I am sure Audyssey is not what it would be. It could be the speakers and how they are placed(I will recalibrate by toe-ing them in). I can feel a distinct shrillness. I have not given up because I like how it affects the bass and makes the music alive with Dyn EQ (I typically do not use Dyn Vol on just music but use it for movies/TV...but for music Dyn EQ is already very nice).

Here is a link to the Tom Holman paper being discussed.

Are your speakers aimed at the ears of the listeners .. and therefore at the measurement mic positions? Are you measuring at least 24" from walls? And are you measuring "inside" the column bounded on the left by the left front speaker and on the right by the right front speaker? Have you checked all of the mid and hf drivers for proper operation?

Jeff

Thanks Jeff!!!

One thing i want to ask and maybe i completely missed this. With audyssey Xt, i believe it calibrates to 0db, how do i compensate for this when I typically listen to stuff at around -20, wont i miss some soft sounds?

Is there anyway to calibrate it for a lower listening level.

I like dynamic EQ set to 10, but it still does not help some soft sounds. When I was playing black ops on 360 i have trouble hearing footsteps. Most people dont. Of course if I crank it up about 7-8db's i can hear them fine but then the gunshots are to loud.

Hi,

If your ears are ringing after listening at reference levels it means you are damaging your hearing. It may not be permanent, but nevertheless it is hearing damage.

Have you measured the actual SPL levels? According to OSHA prolonged listening at levels as low as 85 dB can cause permanent hearing damage.

This first thing to do if you ears are ringing is reduce the volume. It may also be prudent to listen further away from your front speakers.

With regard to harsh highs after Audyssey calibration, the usual reason for this is due to misplacement of the microphones. Sometimes if the microphones are placed outside the spacing of the main speakers Audyssey may over-compensate for being off-axis. This can cause harshness, especially at high listening levels.

Larry

I like the sound of that. Is there anything as far as a subwoofer's construction type / component's features inside and out of a subwoofer you think I should look for when picking out a pair of subwoofers?


Thanks and cool build site! (I do have a lot of reading to do, I'll add it to the list)

It calibrates the system so that Reference Level is achieved at 0dB on the master volume. But the system is considered calibrated with respect to frequency response and channel balance at all volumes. However, your ears and hearing enters the scenario at this point ... specifically human hearing sensitivity. To adjust to that, there is Audyssey's Dynamic EQ. And to allow you to hear the softer sounds while listening at lower levels, i.e. late night listening, there is Dynamic Volume.

Buy the two biggest and baddest that you can afford. Alternatively, buy the FOUR biggest and baddest that you can afford.


Thanks, just paying back/paying it forward in appreciation of all of the enthusiasts' sites I devoured when I first started.

Jeff

What is "grossly" unconventional about 2CH analog sound with controlled bass, eliminating exagerated bass on the low end. I think the "L/R bypass" setting is there, to make Audyssey more flexible for some. REW shows much reduced ringing on the low end on my waterfall graphs. The Antimode and Audyssey control on the low end reduces the effect of my room modes. The sound is more open and dynamic, without the midbass bloat of a higher crossover.. With full Audyssey and 100hz crossover after Auto Setup, the 2CH music sounds veiled and heavy in the mids. You just have to go with what sounds best to you, in the end that's all that matters. I would suppose some might think Audyssey room correction is grossly unconventional. I happen to like Audyssey the way that I use it. Not everyone has done room treatments. I have added room treatments two months ago, with that and Audyssey the sound in my listening room has changed dramatically. The great thing about Audyssey is the different ways it can be used.

It's what I've found but I'm still on bump 2 So far...

Kind Regards,

Keith

Dunno.


Dunno. It has been a while since I have delved into such things but I suspect so. The final firmware version was/is 1.08 but something tells me that it was 1.05 that was the criterion level for AudysseyPro. I suggest that you consult the long and old thread on direct upgrades for Integra/Audyssey. I am certain that the info is buried in there.

I believe I agree with you Markus. I have very capable ported subs (SVS PB13 Ultras), as well as, very capable sealed subs (Epik Empires). Although they do sound ever so slightly different, they both work great for music and HT. Even after owning both 'types' of subs, I don't understand why folks use the 'musical' term all the time. As long as a sub is able to reproduce the needed frequencies, with low distortion/etc, I tend to believe a sub is a sub. IMHO that is.

doug.

Is there a way of knowing what that is? For example how would I know if I could comfortably set my center at 120hz?

Thanks- I will delve into this further after I set up the pro kit with 80.2. Have you tried XT32 yet?

Joel

Not yet.

One way is to use REW for checking which crossover settings gives the smothest (flattest!) curve when playing your center and subwoofer together.

Actually, I believe you should never take the crossovers that are set by the automatic setup for granted.
If anything, they should only be taken as the lowest acceptable value.
Checking with REW or similar product should always be done when selecting the optimal crossover.

Not that you care, but I am a bit disappointed in you! It seems you are usually right on top of the new Audyssey stuff. Have you been tinkering with something else lately? Or just busy?

Neither. I am at the mercy of the manufacturers to send me a piece of equipment to test.

That was not good information. Once you have the USB-to-serial adapter working with the correct driver, it is a piece of cake to use the Pro Kit ... and it is a piece of cake to upgrade the firmware. It was the DSP upgrade for the DTS bomb that was a challenge ... CD player, optical connection, play the WAV file like a Cd....

Jeff

Kal has been getting jerked around.