"Official" Audyssey thread (FAQ in post #1) - Page 1597

DHC-80.2

On the Integra website under the DHC-80.2 product specifications page it says:
"Audyssey Room Correction & Calibration - MultEQ XT32"

And it also has a badge image that says "Audyssey MultEQ XT 32" (it's the 3rd badge down, second from the left). So your good getting the 80.2 if you want to save money while also having XT 32

The 80.2 was XT32 from the beginning. Pro, too. See: http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-49

AFAIK, XT32 has never been offered as a firmware update for any product from any manufacturer. The reason is that it is a very good feature for marketing a new model.

Flagship Denon pre/pro got XT 32 after the fact. It was $1100, but it got it along with Audyssey DSX Surround Processing, Dolby PLIIz Surround Processing and 3D Video Pass-through via HDMI.

AVP-A1HDCI

OK, so 80.2 is confirmed by the above posters as XT32/Pro. AFAIK Integras are only sold thru certain dealers and are not normally discounted, but lucky for you that one's discounted because of the 80.3 replacement model. Go for it! Or depending on the price etc., as I mentioned, the Onk 5508 which AFAIK is the same machine as the 80.2, is available for <$1.5K from reputable e-resellers.

Kal is right. That Upgrade is a major HARDWARE overhaul, not just FW. And it's offered on the expensive flagship Denon AVR as well. So that over $1K upgrade finally brings the flagship models up to the DSP RC capability of the 4311. The 4311 was selected by Denon for 100th Anniv AVR status in its sister AVR A100 model. The 4311 at $1.5K street remains the XT32/Pro-capable biggest value AVR by far.

You are correct but that involved much more than a "firmware update," afaik. Almost makes it a new model.

You are all correct, the 80.2 does have "32"

I am dealing with an authorized dealer and they have them
in stock. Don't know if they are discounted yet or not.

Also saw one used on an audio web site.

You should be able to get around 20%-25% off MSRP from your dealer on an 80.2 because it's a discontinued model.

I know, because I was able to get that kind of discount from my local dealer over a year ago when I purchased my 80.1 just as the 80.2 was coming out.

Cheers,
SB

Look up a few posts from here made by a poster named Markus767. Do my eyes see that the before and after charts say "1/6 octave smoothing", or am I just making things up?


Have you ever done a sweep of your R & L channel input to preamp output to see how much Audyssey boosts or cuts the frequency band of each channel on an electrical basis? I am pushing levels on my mains, so I don't think that a potential 10 dB boost near 100 hz (before and after chart) would work out on my system.


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post21444918

need some help...
never owned a Receiver... about to build my first home theatre system for my bedroom.

receivers im looking at are Denon and Marantz, they both have airplay and audyssey.

For Denon 3 models im looking at are AVR-2312CI, AVR-3312CI or AVR-2112CI.

Marantz: SR5006,SR6006, NR1602.

do they all have the same Audyssey specs, what should i be looking for, it sounds a bit complicated lol

I'm planning to connect them to Kef T205's speaker set.

if i can get some help, would be great

Audyssey "flavors" are detailed on this webpage. Look up each receiver and see what it has:
www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/multieq

The simplest variety (2EQ) does not equalize your sub, so IMO it is nearly worthless.

Hi. You posted on this before here and you received some "what flavor of Audyssey to get" guidelines. Please see those responses and this one too.

THX has advocated or accepted different approaches to handling dialnorm. I think all of them report the DN offset, and some apply a fixed 4 dB gain shift. You'd have to check the particular information on the product in question to know for sure. Or check it with a disc with known signal levels.

LOL, you found me out. I am a psychic.

Reran Audessy with the sub's port ~6-7' away from it's original position. Audessy set the system up as follows:

Front: 60Hz
Center: 70Hz
Surround: 90Hz
LPF of LFE: 120*
Sub Phase: 0*

Distances:
Left: 9.5' (actually 9.0')
Center: 9.0' (perfect)
Right: 10.5' (perfect)
Sur Right: 7.0' (perfect)
Sur Left: 4.5' (perfect)
Sub: 3.5' (actually 11.5'!!!)

Levels:
Front Left: -3.5db (-1.db to read 75db on my meter)
Front Right -3.5db (+0.5 to read 75db)
Center: -5.5db (-0.5to read 75db)
Sur Right: -7.0db (-2.0 to read 75db)
Sur Left: -7.5db (-2.0db to read 75db)
Sub: +1.5db (didn't touch receiver or sub setting)
Sub: +1.5db

And yet again, sub sounds like crap at these settings! Non existant!!! Literally no air moving at all thru the port. Lowered the level on the receiver to -1.5 because I read Audessy boosts by that much, but now I have to crank up the gain on the sub from 9 o'clock to 11 o'clock postion. Sub pops like crazy on Battle Field Los Angeles sewer scene (laser guns from command and control) Lowered to 9-10 o'clock position and same $hit!!!

Changed fronts and center to 80Hz, lowered sub level on receiver to -3.0db and sub at 9-10 o'clock position and same $****...popping and bottoming out. This is with Audessy on Movie mode chosen (movie, music, or off are the options during calibration)

So I turn Audessy off and I still get the bottoming out!!!!!! Not as pronounced, but there nonetheless. So F'ing frustrated. Not sure if I hate my sub or my new receiver more at this point!!

What is the LPF 120?

Is this a low pass filter?

If it is 120hz is really high.

Don't give up joeyvaz!!! Troubleshooting is on the way! How about posting a couple of pictures of your room and your setup? That would help a lot. Rest assured Audyssey was not made to make things worse, but better!

Pics now that the Christmas tree is gone (thank God!!!)
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Bring back the tree! It was the only absorber/diffuser in the room.

Hi swgiust,

LPF at 120 Hz is just A-OK. Our AVRs have two inputs on the subwoofer channel. One input is taking the LFE (Low Frequency Effects) track of a 5.1 mix, while the other input is taking the bass redirected from satellites (in a Bass Managed system), and finally the two signals are summed. The LFE of a film track on the upper side is limited to the recording of effects to 120 Hz, therefore the setting of the low pass filter (LPF) in the AVR is the correct value. Once it's set it should never be touched again. Hope my explanation is clear and understandable to you.

Good to know. So reference level may not be the same for everyone.

Yes, it is nice to have a test disc with known signal levels along with a known Dialnorm value.

I have a non-THX unit, and my AVR readout shows the Dialnorm value (not offset) used for a DD DVD. I checked the THX Optimizer from Pirates of the Caribbean 1, and the speaker level check matches my receiver test tones except for the subwoofer tone. The Dialnorm value used for this specific version of the THX Optimizer is -31, so on my receiver everything checks out between the AVR and the test disc.

seriously, that's one reflective room! can a brutha get a plush rug or something?

I'm sure the heavy curtains in along that wall diffuse just as much as the tree. Doubt that was the problem since I had the same EXACT problem with the tree in place. My chair and ottoman go in front of the window, haven't moved them yet. BUT I had the same results with the chair and ottoman in front of the wall of windows.

Yes it is, I just turned it on its side to see if the woofer surround was in tact.

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Looks like your sub is sitting on something like an Auralex SubDude. Can you take that out and run Audyssey again?

Can't do an area rug since my French bulldog sheds like a MOFO and it would be a nightmare to keep clean. I vacuum my hardwood floors twice a day as it it now.

Plus, my other speakers sound amazing!!! And the sub, in its current location, sounds fantastic when MCACC is used on my Elite 94. I think Audessy is wreaking havoc on my sub or maybe my room. I'm building some treatment panels next weekend. We'll see if that help, I know it can't hurt....

I can try that, but I think it will bounce like crazy on the cherry floors. And the spikes will scratch the living $hit out of my floors. Down firing sub so I have to use the spikes so the sub doesn't hit the floor when it moves. I'll put some moving discs or something under the spikes to protect the floors.

Thanks for the help and suggestions, truly appreciate it.

Any suggestions for what to use to plug the port? I haven't tried that yet. Do I just stuff a towel or something in the port?

Thanks again.