"Official" Audyssey thread (FAQ in post #1) - Page 1738

Keith, it seems there are always extreme ends to anything in this world. Probably the other end is. Q: "What's the best speaker in the world?" A: "Bose sub/sats in white!"

And the best one for this thread is just two words: "Audyssey sucks!" LOL

Translated to Texan English, cods=bull and wallop=****.

Edit: Oops, the profanity filter got me. I meant to say sh*t....

The sad thing is, Feri, that a lot of people will believe all that codswallop and go out and buy new amps and so on in the expectation that they will hear some great new sound from their system.

Still, at least I hope I have introduced a new English word to Budapest and that you will find plenty of opportunity to use it

Yes Keith this is pretty much sad, the least to say. So far away from the so-called "conscious consumer" theory, not to mention "cognitive dissonance". (Sigh) But what can be done? Average 6pack Joe remains "as is".

And yeah, for a non-native speaker this is another benefit for participating in a forum like this one, can always pick up such "gems". Though, you bet there are also plenty of opportunities to use "codswallop" even in my neck of the woods.

Take care!

This is more for a person that does not have any idea what takes place running Audyssey XT32.

This is what I saw on my screen today when the Tech was running it on my New Integra DHC-80.3.

I am one of the people that had "No-Idea" what would be on the Screen.

The system is Awesome Sounding once this was completed.





























Terry

Nice black levels.

Though a bit noisy.

Of course you would notice that....

Terry, why don't you post in the Pro thread, might be nice for some there to see different interfaces. My Denon has a very different interface.

Thanks for the laugh...

So I gotta ask, are not those "cross over" settings a low? Meaning everything I read in this thread says cross at 80 - let the sub(s) deal with the lows.

it are a low much not too

Ok, so I was a typing fast and me english were bad...I deserved that.

No worries, toofast68

No, for XT32, you can leave the crossovers where they are set. Every other flavour of Audyssey, you should stick with 80 Hz.

My concern is more for the channel trims that are almost maxed out.

Oh sorry, I thought it was "speak/type like Yoda" day.

It really depends on the capability of the system. With XT32, the filter resolution is equally high on all channels, so you don't have that particular reason for higher crossover for the satellites.

There was a discussion a few weeks back about the potential benefits of 'stereo bass', and for those with a capable enough system (with satellites capable of playing flat down to 30-40Hz at the desired playback levels) there may be a benefit to using the lower crossovers. I tested it with my system (that measures flat to the mid-30's at THX Reference), and actually prefer it.

It's one of those YMMV things and to get the full benefit of it, it's best to measure the system to ensure that it CAN play flat at THX Reference (or whatever maximum listening levels are used).


Max

Just means you've got efficient speakers. Since the trims are not at max, you can figure they are correct and all's right with the world.

Wow, I learned something new...maybe I just gotta read the FAQ a bit more :-)

His Surround Left is at -12 dB. Since everything is being cut, would he not be better to set it so his subs get a bit of boost and let everything else come down a few dB? Or is that just tinkering for no real benefit?

IIRC, the Integras have 15 dB plus or minus for speaker trims so -12 is within the range. He could turn down his subs so they were at +5 boost, but Audyssey would still set all the speakers the same: so that a -30dBFS pink noise tone would yield 75 dB at the listening position.

I can't think of any value to changing the subs so they are in the plus territory, unless just for added bass.

I would expect that if it makes any difference at all, lower individual speaker and sub settings simply serve to decrease the potential for the AVR's peramp noise to become audible . . . while turning them up might increase the amount of preamp noise reaching the power section, and thus the speakers.

FAQ UPDATED

New questions added: a8, a9, a10, a11, c6 and c7. Various answers added to or changed for clarity. Further Reading links added in various places - more to come.

Only two more questions to add and then the FAQ will be fairly comprehensive I think - Re-Eq and Room treatments will be the next two.

Anyone have any further suggestions for FAQs, please let me know.

Will update the linky doc later today ...

Jeff - be aware of changes reported in next post.

FAQ UPDATE

Section A was getting too large, so I have split it. We now have a new section - H - Issues that may arise during calibration.

Re-arranging the sections like this is a pig, with the crude editor in the forum software which was never really designed for editing huge posts, so I am hoping not to have to do it again.

It also means that any cross-reference links have to be identified and changed as necessary - I have tested all the links but if anyone finds a broken link that I have missed, please let me know.

Thanks ...




OK ........

Terry

I'm No-Expert on Audyssey or XT-32 but here are a few comments.
(Comments from a Layman)

I did not choose to add any more additional Bass.

Trust me with 4-Mirage BPS-400 subs there is no need for additional Bass.
(Meaning jacking it up anymore)

Two of them are stacked right behind the love seat and the other two are in the front.

In watching and listening to Iron Man where they are on the race scene and the guy comes out with the Whips cutting the cars in half.
You can feel the whips hitting the ground.
Just like you were actually there in person.

The same thing goes for adding higher level to the rear surrounds on the rear shelves on the wall.
There is no need at all when heard in person.

You can actually hear the cars go round the street.
Just like you were there in person at the 80 THX Sound Level.

The Audio is just simply "Incredible" !!!

I also will add this comment regarding speaker levels.
It is a personal "Preference" sort of thing IMHO.
There is no right or wrong just simply what the owner prefers to hear and enjoy.

In my case I decided to Not have the Tech Change any of the XT-32 settings.

See pics below for speaker locations.






























Terry

Wrong thread for all of that but nice Runco.

My original comment was only to point out that Audyssey maxes out at +/- 12 dB, since your one speaker is at -12 dB trim, how do you know it shouldn't really be at -12.5 dB? Adjusting the relative level would give you that headroom for the calculations.

Good point. Should never max out the trims for the reasons you say. Note that the sub trims go to +/- 15dB.

Keith, this is another Denon/Onkyo case. As we know Denon only allows +/- 12 dB, while Onkyo allows +/- 15 dB trims to Audyssey. What gear does the OP have?

FAQ Update

Clarifications, corrections and amendments made, thanks jdsmoothie! Also thanks to JD for the Denon-specific info.