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post #52951 of 62200
4/16/12 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by joehonest View Post

I'm using a glitch free onkyo 3007 with Audyssey XT. The onkyo 3007 sounds great as is, just that the add-ons like Audyssey need refinement to catch up to the onkyos perfection in SQ.

FWIW, on the MUSIC curve the Audyssey XT calibration sounds amazing on my Onkyo 709 for both music and movie sources. So i'm happy :-)
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post #52952 of 62200
4/16/12 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by oleus View Post

You're not by any chance using an Onkyo are you?

Doesn't sound like exactly your same issue, but some of us had weird Audyssey results on the MOVIE curve after a certain firmware update.

I have a integra 80.2, I am on the latest FW but have had this problem for 1 year.I do remenber that certain FW update and was thinking that also, but movie or music curve I still get the brightness.I try to dial it down on the movie cruve with re eq but movie does not have an stereo mode and that is what I use for music.
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post #52953 of 62200
4/16/12 at 12:12pm
The firmware/curve glitch was when using Audyssey Pro.
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post #52954 of 62200
4/16/12 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by tomefs View Post

I have a integra 80.2, I am on the latest FW but have had this problem for 1 year.I do remenber that certain FW update and was thinking that also, but movie or music curve I still get the brightness.I try to dial it down on the movie cruve with re eq but movie does not have an stereo mode and that is what I use for music.

Interesting. There was some discussion on the Onkyo forums about this weirdness. For the particular glitch i am taking about, it sounds REALLY tinny, almost like an AM radio broadcast. ZERO low end and a distant, tinny sounding center channel. Is that what you are hearing?

i used MultEQ XT with my 709, and the Audyssey issues only started for some of us after a December 2011 update. It's not an Audyssey problem, i only bring it up here because the of the "bright" sounding Audyssey results a recent poster has been reporting and he too has an Onkyo.
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post #52955 of 62200
4/16/12 at 12:45pm
I am amazed at the density of dis- and mis-information being dispensed today.
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post #52956 of 62200
4/16/12 at 12:52pm
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Originally Posted by joehonest View Post

Audyssey filtering is the problem for sure, turn off Audyssey is to turn off the problem. The good news is to trick Audyssey and make it work for you and not against you. The mike and how its used is the key to all the problems one may have with Audyssey SQ.. With over five years of dealing with Audysseys bugs I've learned how to master it..

And THAT^^^ is certainly "the last word in audio"... learn how to use the product incorrectly to "master" it.

Craig
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post #52957 of 62200
4/16/12 at 12:54pm
First he says the sound with Audyssey is awful and then claims he mastered it??
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post #52958 of 62200
4/16/12 at 12:55pm
Its not a sin to have a tin ear, but please don't bash the golden ears posting..
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post #52959 of 62200
4/16/12 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by pbarach View Post

First he says the sound with Audyssey is awful and then claims he mastered it??



Yes you read right, please read all the posts to get the full story..
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post #52960 of 62200
4/16/12 at 1:00pm
You sure this isn't a clone account just giving you guys a stir? The ignorance is so comical it must be contrived.
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post #52961 of 62200
4/16/12 at 1:07pm
I'm for real, I wish I lived in a perfect world...
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post #52962 of 62200
4/16/12 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by joehonest View Post

Audyssey filtering is the problem for sure, turn off Audyssey is to turn off the problem. The good news is to trick Audyssey and make it work for you and not against you. The mike and how its used is the key to all the problems one may have with Audyssey SQ.. With over five years of dealing with Audysseys bugs I've learned how to master it..

As my post(s) clearly indicated, sticking with the MUSIC curve in my receiver yields fantastic results as opposed to "turning audyssey off". Something happened with certain runs of certain Onkyo receivers that seemed to corrupt how it was handling the "movie" calculation. It wasn't just off...it was WAY off.
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post #52963 of 62200
4/16/12 at 1:37pm
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Originally Posted by oleus View Post

As my post(s) clearly indicated, sticking with the MUSIC curve in my receiver yields fantastic results as opposed to "turning audyssey off". Something happened with certain runs of certain Onkyo receivers that seemed to corrupt how it was handling the "movie" calculation. It wasn't just off...it was WAY off.

Everyone has there way with dealing with Audyssey bugs. Room treatments are the most popular in this thread..
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post #52964 of 62200
4/16/12 at 1:44pm
I don't think "the thread" considers room treatments as something done to deal with Audyssey's "bugs."
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post #52965 of 62200
4/16/12 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

I don't think "the thread" considers room treatments as something done to deal with Audyssey's "bugs."

He who can not troubleshoot his own system within 5 years is the one who has bugs. Hope dies last!
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post #52966 of 62200
4/16/12 at 1:53pm
Bats, maybe, interfering with the Audyssey chirps?
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post #52967 of 62200
4/16/12 at 2:27pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

I am amazed at the density of dis- and mis-information being dispensed today.

And to think, someone like FilmMixer was permanently banned from this thread....
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post #52968 of 62200
4/16/12 at 2:32pm
Many more are about to follow if you can't stop posting about each other.

This shouldn't be a difficult concept.
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post #52969 of 62200
4/16/12 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post


And to think, someone like FilmMixer was permanently banned from this thread....

Permanently banned?? How disappointing to lose the insight from an industry insider.
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post #52970 of 62200
4/16/12 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by mogorf View Post

Mike from a buddy? You should always use the same model mic that was bundled with your avr or pre/pro otherwise the factory installed calibration file will not match the buddy's mic specs if it's not the same model.

Yes it is the corect mike, the same as the one I have.Buy the way, I have heard no diferences with my new aud. mike and stand, but still testing
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post #52971 of 62200
4/16/12 at 3:53pm
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Originally Posted by tomefs View Post

Yes it is the corect mike, the same as the one I have.Buy the way, I have heard no diferences with my new aud. mike and stand, but still testing

Awaiting your good news. I'll buy your way if price is reasonable!
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post #52972 of 62200
4/16/12 at 4:01pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Try a concert Blu-ray.

Yes I have, it hapens with any music.DVD audio ect.
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post #52973 of 62200
4/16/12 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by KK in CT View Post

Permanently banned?? How disappointing to lose the insight from an industry insider.

I agree. He is still active in other threads.
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post #52974 of 62200
4/16/12 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by tomefs View Post

Yes I have, it hapens with any music.DVD audio ect.

Are you switching curves from movies to music?
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post #52975 of 62200
4/16/12 at 5:44pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Are you switching curves from movies to music?

I try to avoid the music curve as it is even brighter than movie,but I do use it for stereo.
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post #52976 of 62200
4/16/12 at 7:37pm
I have dipoles behind the sofa and a pair of in-ceiling speakers. For 7.1 sources I would like the dipoles in “surr back/amp assign” connections set as surr back and the in-ceiling in the “surround” connections. For 5.1 sources I would like to use the Denon 3311 height processing and have the dipoles in “surround” connections and the in-ceiling in the “surr back/amp assign” so they can be assigned as a height speakers.

I was thinking of making avr backups after running Audyssey for each setup. Then I would just reload the backup with the proper EQ that I want to be running. I probably wont change the setup that frequently as there isn't that many movies encoded for 7.1 speakers. I don't mind loading backups but pulling the receiver out to switch connections would get tedious. I wish Denon had made the "surrounds" along with the "surround backs/height/wide" assignable in the 3311.

Is there a physical speaker switch box that can physically swap/remap your speaker connections?
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post #52977 of 62200
4/17/12 at 4:44am
If your good with basic wiring you could make your own speaker switching box. With most low power amps in avrs the (-) is not floating..
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post #52978 of 62200
4/17/12 at 7:00am
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Originally Posted by keagy View Post

I have dipoles behind the sofa and a pair of in-ceiling speakers. For 7.1 sources I would like the dipoles in “surr back/amp assign” connections set as surr back and the in-ceiling in the “surround” connections. For 5.1 sources I would like to use the Denon 3311 height processing and have the dipoles in “surround” connections and the in-ceiling in the “surr back/amp assign” so they can be assigned as a height speakers.

I was thinking of making avr backups after running Audyssey for each setup. Then I would just reload the backup with the proper EQ that I want to be running. I probably wont change the setup that frequently as there isn't that many movies encoded for 7.1 speakers. I don't mind loading backups but pulling the receiver out to switch connections would get tedious. I wish Denon had made the "surrounds" along with the "surround backs/height/wide" assignable in the 3311.

Is there a physical speaker switch box that can physically swap/remap your speaker connections?

If you have multiple surround connections, that would work. "Surround" though as rear surrounds won't play unless "surrounds" are present.

As for a switch, a DPDT would work for swapping two speakers on one amp channel. (You'd need two switches.)

I am not familiar with how to assign speakers and whether that can be done "on the fly." Your question would be better asked on the Denon thread. More likely to get a fast, accurate and complete reply there.

Jeff
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post #52979 of 62200
4/17/12 at 9:01am
This is what Audyssey set up for my frequency levels. They sound great. The only thing that was off was the distance so I manually adjusted those and I prefer my preset eq settings. Set the speakers to small and crossover freq to 80. Lmk if this looks good to you guys.
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post #52980 of 62200
4/17/12 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by Aldiggi View Post

This is what Audyssey set up for my frequency levels. They sound great. The only thing that was off was the distance so I manually adjusted those and I prefer my preset eq settings. Set the speakers to small and crossover freq to 80. Lmk if this looks good to you guys.

You appear to have some problems. Your surrounds and subs look to be 'maxed out'. Check out this part of the FAQ:

6. Some of my trim levels are at the limits of their adjustment (‘maxed out’). Do I need to change anything? (click here)

It is OK to manually set the crossover to 80 Hz so long as you RAISED it from the detected XO and not lowered it:

2. I often see advice to change the crossovers from what Audyssey has set to 80Hz. Why is this? Has Audyssey ‘got it wrong’? (click here)

4. Is it OK to change the Crossovers (XOs) from Audyssey's recommendation? (click here)

You should not need to change the distances (delays) set by Audyssey. If the distances were significantly out, then you may have a setup issue - see here:

5. Audyssey has set my satellite speaker distances incorrectly - should I just change them? (click here)

2. Is it OK to change the distance settings Audyssey sets? (click here)

It is usual for the sub distance to be set quite differently to the physical distance. This is not an error. See here:

6. My sub speaker distance setting is closer than the actual physical distance. (click here)

I suggest you read all of those FAQ sections and then come back to us with any supplementary questions you have.

It's a lot of reading I'm afraid, but until you have those basics in your mind, there's no point in going into your issues in more detail.
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