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I think you are confusing two different things here. The problem you are referring to was one that affected x09 series after a FW update. Users reported a "tinny" sound when using the movie curve, but it was solved by switching to the music curve - the opposite of what you are finding.
IIRC, Chris at Audyssey said they couldn't replicate it so they never pursued it any further than that. There were only a few reports here describing the same problem so I don't think the thread ever got to the bottom of it either. The usual suspects such as a bad mic, or poor mic technique when measuring etc etc can be ruled out because the people affected were getting a satisfactory result with the music curve, which couldn't be the case if there was a problem with the mic of technique.
EDIT: I remember now asking Chris a question about it - see this post:
In Onkyos, you can approximate a flat curve by selecting a THX mode and then turning Re-EQ off - but you will of course then have a THX mode enabled which is possibly not what you want.
If the movie curve sounds good to you, is there a problem with just leaving it in movie mode? I realise that is not an answer but it's a kludge that might be OK for now.
:) I too share your OCD-like attributes and I would want it to work properly too, even if I didn't actually use the music mode. Taking measurements and graphing the results would be terrific - please share them here when you have done them as it will add to the storehouse of knowledge in the thread. Your measurements and graphs will also be of interest to Chris at Audyssey - last time this issue was raised nobody took measurements IIRC and so the issue was quickly dropped at Audyssey who could not apparently reproduce the problem. It seems likely, or possible at least, that the problem can be resolved by a FW update; if so, I believe you may find it easier to get that to happen by pushing the issue with Audyssey and letting them push it with Onkyo, rather than trying to deal with it via Onkyo directly (who seem less responsive to customer issues). Of course, it can do no harm to involve Onkyo directly too, but don't be too surprised if you get nowhere. HST, even Onkyo may find it hard to dispute graphical evidence of the issue. Good luck with it either way. And thanks in advance for publishing your findings here. Cheers, Keith
Interesting about the mic - you're the third person recently who's reported mic problems. I wonder if they have a bad batch?
Yes, your comments about the music curve make sense to me and I look forward to seeing your measurements in due course.
It won't remove the FW. It is a good idea to do the reset on a new unit - I don't know why but I too had an initial problem with Audyssey not recognising all my speakers when I first got my last AVR - the reset sorted it.
In case you are unaware of the procedure:
Sure. Do be aware that you will lose all your settings (including Audyssey) so it might be useful to make a note of any settings you want to go back to. You'll need to run Audyssey again, but that's something you'd want to do anyway in the circs.
Just for info, I long ago stopped writing down settings for all my gear and have for some time just used the camera in my mobile phone to take pics of the settings screens. Much faster and no bits of paper to lose.
I've added this question to the FAQ:
Currently the answer just points to the Pro thread started by SoM. I could expand on the answer or even create a new section of the FAQ to bring together the various hints and tips so far contained in the Pro thread. Or I could leave it as it is now.
Anyone got any views on this, especially SoM as I don't want to appear to be treading on the toes of the Pro thread in any way? As you probably know, the FAQ already has three sections - the FAQ itself, the '101' and a brief Glossary of common terms. It would be easy enough to add a 4th section for 'Audyssey Pro Users'. If anyone thinks this would be a good (or a bad) idea, please let me know. I will go with the flow...
Thanks for the kind words, Jerry. I'll wait to hear SoM's view (and anyone else who cares to comment of course) and if they think as you do I will create a Pro section in some way. Thanks for the offer of assistance - I will take you up on it because I am in no way an expert on Pro (although I do seem to get good results). Perhaps you could double-check the section's content before I post it? I will create it offline in Word and then transfer it to the FAQ post afterwards).
Good points, Jeff. I may have spawned a monster.... ;)
Thanks Jerry. If the consensus is a 'go' I will start work on it next week. I just got a new pattern generator and the latest version of Calman (5.0) which will give me a measure of automation for screen calibrations now, so that will probably take up the first day or two of next week as I start on the way up a new learning curve ;) But after that I will be free...