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post #57481 of 62195
11/13/12 at 10:34am
^^^

i use the omnimic kit from parts express... very easy to use, and comes with everything you need (other than a boom mic stand)...
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post #57482 of 62195
11/13/12 at 10:34am
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

So what are the best options to measure and analyze room acoustics? I am guessing a decent mic should be part of the package.

 

Omnimic for ~$300-350, self-contained with a reasonably low learning curve.  REW for ~$100-150 in cables, mic and sound card, more difficult to set up, with a fairly steep learning curve.  XTZ, which I know little about.

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post #57483 of 62195
11/13/12 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

So what are the best options to measure and analyze room acoustics? I am guessing a decent mic should be part of the package.

 

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^^^

i use the omnimic kit from parts express... very easy to use, and comes with everything you need (other than a boom mic stand)...

 

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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Omnimic for ~$300-350, self-contained with a reasonably low learning curve.  REW for ~$100-150 in cables, mic and sound card, more difficult to set up, with a fairly steep learning curve.  XTZ, which I know little about.

 

Another vote for OmniMic... very easy to get started, good support on AVS, easy to use, does more or less everything I can ever envisage needing. Also I could not have discovered and resolved the phase problem with my subs if I hadn't had OmniMic - well I might have discovered it but I doubt if I coud have resolved it...

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post #57484 of 62195
11/13/12 at 12:16pm
I just ordered the Omnimic. It currently includes a boom mic stand.
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post #57485 of 62195
11/13/12 at 12:17pm
I assume this the OmniMic kit you guys are referencing?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=390-792
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post #57486 of 62195
11/13/12 at 12:23pm
Yes, that's the one. I initially went the REW+Dayton Mic+Phantom power supply route. My sound card initially worked, but barely with much noise, but now the mic input isn't working at all. Rather than purchase another sound card when the one I have is terrific for headphone listening (Asus Xonar Essence STX) I decided to just get something that works.
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post #57487 of 62195
11/13/12 at 12:56pm
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I just ordered the Omnimic. It currently includes a boom mic stand.

that's cool, then it's an even better package now... smile.gif
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post #57488 of 62195
11/13/12 at 1:09pm
Hey Chris-any idea if my black Macbook be up to the task, or will I have to upgrade software, soundcards, etc?
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post #57489 of 62195
11/13/12 at 1:12pm
^^^

unless they've changed it, the software doesn't run on os/x... frown.gif

it doesn't take much horsepower though, i'm using an ancient lappy to run it on... no soundcard necessary...
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post #57490 of 62195
11/13/12 at 1:18pm
hmmm...OK, thanks.
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post #57491 of 62195
11/13/12 at 1:22pm
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I just ordered the Omnimic. It currently includes a boom mic stand.

 

Great stuff - even better deal then! I am sure you will  find it very, very useful Theresa.

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post #57492 of 62195
11/13/12 at 1:25pm
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^^^

unless they've changed it, the software doesn't run on os/x... frown.gif

it doesn't take much horsepower though, i'm using an ancient lappy to run it on... no soundcard necessary...

 

No OS/X support unfortunately. I had to buy a cheap but useful Windows lappy to run OmniMic and Audyssey Pro.  A secondhand lappy would do - as you say, it isn’t especially demanding of the system it runs on.

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post #57493 of 62195
11/13/12 at 2:17pm
I'm surprised it didn't run under Bootcamp. I'm a Windows 7 user so won't have any trouble.
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post #57494 of 62195
11/13/12 at 4:49pm
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I'm surprised it didn't run under Bootcamp. I'm a Windows 7 user so won't have any trouble.

 

Yup - it definitely works perfectly with W7 - that's what came with my cheap lappy - Home version, whatever that is. Fve minutes after opening the box, you're measuring!

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post #57495 of 62195
11/14/12 at 1:28am
I downloaded the latest version of Omnimic's software a week or so ago. It does run without problems, except of course it detects that there is no omnimic attached. It looks like its very well done and easier to use than REW.
As for operating systems, I think that OSX is superior in some ways, it's Apple hardware that I don't care for. I did use an iMac exclusively for 3 years a while back so I am familiar with it. If Windows 8 becomes dominant I could very well go back to Macs. Win 8 is a total disaster for the desktop.
Edited by Theresa - 11/14/12 at 2:03am
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post #57496 of 62195
11/14/12 at 2:52am
Thanks to All! It looks like the Omnimic is the way to go.
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post #57497 of 62195
11/14/12 at 3:00am
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I downloaded the latest version of Omnimic's software a week or so ago. It does run without problems, except of course it detects that there is no omnimic attached. It looks like its very well done and easier to use than REW.
As for operating systems, I think that OSX is superior in some ways, it's Apple hardware that I don't care for. I did use an iMac exclusively for 3 years a while back so I am familiar with it. If Windows 8 becomes dominant I could very well go back to Macs. Win 8 is a total disaster for the desktop.

 

Yes, OmniMic is way easier than REW. I took one look at REW (it runs on a Mac) and gave up on it right away - I just don't have the computer-type knowledge needed. I am sure REW is a fantastic tool though for those who can master it. But I am happy with my OM.

 

IKWYM wrt to OS/X vs Windows. I find OS/X far more robust, possibly also because Apple have control over both the OS and the hardware. Main thing I have against the hardware is that it is very expensive with the cheapest Mac laptop coming in at three times the price of the cheapest Windows laptop - but HST, the quality of the Mac lappy is going to be way higher than the cheap Windows lappy. I guess it's just preference at the end of the day - I got too frustrated with XP letting me down all the time and wanted something more robust, hence my switch to Macs. 

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post #57498 of 62195
11/14/12 at 3:01am
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Thanks to All! It looks like the Omnimic is the way to go.

The best thing is, you will be taking measurements within 5 minutes of opening the package!  Of course, you then have to learn a) what measurements to take and b) how to interpret them - but that is also true of REW which is far more difficult to get working in the first place. Plenty of OM help on AVS too.

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post #57499 of 62195
11/14/12 at 3:32am
I have some familiarity with loudspeaker measurement having designed my own speakers over the years. Years ago I had LAUD, also from Bill Waslo, and it was way over my head although I could interpret basic measurements. Audyssey is wonderful in automating the equalization process and I love it but there are a number of things I need to know about my speakers that Omnimic should tell me.
Edited by Theresa - 11/14/12 at 3:41am
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post #57500 of 62195
11/14/12 at 5:01am
I'm afraid I might have come off as arrogant in my last post. Please forgive me if this is so.
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post #57501 of 62195
11/14/12 at 5:03am
^^^

you didn't... smile.gif no forgiveness necessary...
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post #57502 of 62195
11/14/12 at 5:11am
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^^^

you didn't... smile.gif no forgiveness necessary...

+1

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post #57503 of 62195
11/14/12 at 5:34am
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^^^
you didn't... smile.gif no forgiveness necessary...

Concur, no need.
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post #57504 of 62195
11/14/12 at 6:23am
Would someone please clarify the purpose of the OmniMic kit for me? Does it take the place of the Audyssey equipment mic? Is this best used with a Mac ($$$)?
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post #57505 of 62195
11/14/12 at 6:32am
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Originally Posted by SugarmillMan View Post

Would someone please clarify the purpose of the OmniMic kit for me? Does it take the place of the Audyssey equipment mic? Is this best used with a Mac ($$$)?

The OmniMic kit is a self contained measuring system and does not replace the Audyssey Mic. Typically, you would run OmniMic after Audyssey to check how well it performed and to tune elements like sub distance to improve integration between the subs and mains.

It doesn't work on a Mac
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post #57506 of 62195
11/14/12 at 7:47am
Here is a good thread to learn about proper acoustic treatment needs identification, placement, and confirmation
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1432713/using-waterfall-and-etc-graphs-to-analyze-room-response
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post #57507 of 62195
11/14/12 at 3:12pm
Hey Keith,

That big brown truck pull up yet?
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post #57508 of 62195
11/15/12 at 3:28am
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Hey Keith,

That big brown truck pull up yet?

 

No ****in' way - but thanks for asking!  The F2s have been in the UK since last Thursday and are still sitting in a Customs shed at the airport 90 miles away 'waiting clearance'. To say I am frustrated is to truly understand the meaning of understatement ;)  Mark Seaton has promised to chase Fedex for me at the US end to see if they can get them moving and I am waiting on the result of their conversation with Fedex. I have now given up any hope of having them here before next week.

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post #57509 of 62195
11/15/12 at 5:29am
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No ****in' way - but thanks for asking!  The F2s have been in the UK since last Thursday and are still sitting in a Customs shed at the airport 90 miles away 'waiting for clearance" ...

Waiting for the canine sniffer unit?
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post #57510 of 62195
11/15/12 at 6:11am
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No ****in' way - but thanks for asking!  The F2s have been in the UK since last Thursday and are still sitting in a Customs shed at the airport 90 miles away 'waiting for clearance" ...

Waiting for the canine sniffer unit?

 

It's become much more complicated.  Customs seem to believe that I am an Importer (a business) and have asked for various paperwork which I am unable to provide. They will not release the F2s without this. I think that there may have been a problem at the US end as Fedex went back to Seaton Sound and asked for additional documentation, which SS have never been asked to provide before. I suspect this is why Customs here think I am a business importing goods from the US. As I am now embroiled with a UK government department, I fear the subs will never be released! Fedex cannot help because they have been told by Customs that they cannot release the goods to Fedex for delivery without the paperwork (which I am unable to provide). I have also been asked to prepay the duty and tax, which has never happened before - Fedex usually invoice for it after delivery.  IOW, a mess.

 

To make matters worse, I have sold my existing subs and they will be collected next week, so I will be subless unless this gets sorted soon, which I doubt. Ho hum...

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