"Official" Audyssey thread (FAQ in post #1) - Page 1938

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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler 

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 

I wish we had something similar in the UK. And it's not just the commercials here - the TV channels have massively different loudness levels, so every time you change channels, you need to adjust the volume too. PITA.

The whole world is moving in the same direction to address loud commercials, even the UK. See this info. Scroll down to the Audio Loudness page. It will take time to really get this into full effect, even in the US.

That is an interesting link, Roger. Channel 4 is one of our major terrestrial providers, along with BBC, ITV and Five. Those channels are actually not too bad (no commercials on the BBC of course, other than their own ads for their own programmes). The real problem is with the Satellite broadcasters, and especially the 'minor' channels. They have huge variations from programme to programme, channel to channel and commercial to commercial. Hopefully they will all be brought into line sooner rather than later.

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Originally Posted by batpig 

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 

LOL. Yes, it is a *very* expensive upgrade. I did get a much younger model though (24 years younger than me in fact) and this resulted in improved performance in many areas  , although at times it can run very hot.

The new model also has a much lower noise floor than the older model and a very attractive faceplate and form factor. Running and maintenance costs are also lower. I am expecting that long-term reliability will be good. 

this whole post is pure gold. You cad. Hope the ex doesn't read this forum though

OMG. If she does, I am toast :)

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Originally Posted by pepar 

I'm sure the firmware is more recent.

Interesting word... firm... ware.... ;)

you guys made me laugh loud for a good continuous 5 mins....

Is it a slow day at work?

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Originally Posted by sdrucker 

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Originally Posted by asere 

I'm not sure I can get xt32 because it's steep. The xt might work

It's up to you, of course, but if you're seeking to upgrade from MultiEQ, your best bang for the buck is to move to a XT32-capable receiver. The biggest reason is that you're going to get the most benefit from Audyssey's ability to equalize the lower bass frequencies and the mains/sub splice. XT has a limited number of filters for mains (16 for main vs. 128 for subs), while XT32 has the same (512) filters for both subs and mains. That's going to give you not only more sensitivity to room effects from your subs, but in particular more control over how your mains and the subs work together in the critical crossover region.

It also has the not coincidental benefit of being able to equalize two subs simultaneously, which might come in handy if you've got multiple subs (or plan to in the future).

I'd see if I could still pick up a Denon 4311, if you really want to get the most cost efficient AVR. Unless you're planning on moving into the 4K world, that should keep you busy for a few years to come.

Edit - I see you have a HSU True sub. If you decide to add a second sub to your setup, you'll particularly appreciate moving to XT32. I know I did when I moved to Audyssey for my own Dual Drive ULS-15s.

Stuart, FWIW, I endorse every word of that post.

The only point I would comment on is that the ability to upscale 4k (such as I have in my Onkyo 5509) is much overrated. Anyone with a 4k display will have inherent 4k upscaling, and now BD players are also appearing with 4k upscaling too (eg the new Oppos). The only question is whether the 4k upscaling in an AVR is going to be better quality that its counterpart in, say, a BD player. Given Oppo's credentials and reputation for upscaling ability, I would question whether it would be done better in the AVR.

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Originally Posted by sdrucker 

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 

LOL. Yes, it is a *very* expensive upgrade. I did get a much younger model though (24 years younger than me in fact) and this resulted in improved performance in many areas  , although at times it can run very hot.

The new model also has a much lower noise floor than the older model and a very attractive faceplate and form factor. Running and maintenance costs are also lower. I am expecting that long-term reliability will be good. 

Not to go off into the gutter, but my own wife _thinks_ she's a younger model. It seems like you've hit the trifecta if you can keep those maintenance costs down:).

LOL. It's the maintenance costs that can kill you I agree. Fortunately, my unit came with its own self-funding plan and rarely requires any additional input from me. :)

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 

 

LOL. It's the maintenance costs that can kill you I agree. Fortunately, my unit came with its own self-funding plan and rarely requires any additional input from me. :)

But, I trust, she greatly appreciates any input you do provide.  ;-)

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Originally Posted by fight4yu 

Guys, new to Audyssey here. Got a new NR818 that had XT32 during black Friday and should be delivered next Monday

I had been reading up on the FAQ and 101. I do understand it is NOT OK to lower xover once Audyssey is done (that it creates hole), but I had a question on why it is OK to move up.

Let's say Audyssey determin that my speaker xover is 50Hz, so it will try to EQ all the way down to 50Hz only for that speaker. In the mean time, I am assuming that they will EQ the sub up to 50Hz only, so that I have a flat and continuous curve...
Now, if I move the xover say to 80Hz, then the sub is now handling those "extra" frequency (from 50-80Hz) which used to be only EQ on the speaker, but not the sub? Would I now have some "uncalibrated" frequency between the old xover and new xover?

I also assume that I cannot "fix" a crossover first, and then run Audyssey? Does it get override? (i.e. can I tell Audyssey that I have small speaker and want to xover at 80Hz so Audyssey can skip the -3dB check and just proceed with that assumption?)

Thanks,

Thomas

What JHaz said. The 'wrong' bit in your post, if I may call it that, is your assumption about how the sub gets EQd. You will be fine to raise the XOs and it won't adversely affect the sub's EQ.

To your last point, Audyssey ignores all settings in the AVR when it runs, so you cannot override it in any way.

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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson 

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 

 

LOL. It's the maintenance costs that can kill you I agree. Fortunately, my unit came with its own self-funding plan and rarely requires any additional input from me. :)

But, I trust, she greatly appreciates any input you do provide.  ;-)

LOL. Yes, digital and analogue. (This is getting tooooooooo bad.....) :)

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Originally Posted by audioguy 

I posted this on the Integra 80.2 thread but thought I would try here as well. Do the calibation test tones have Audyssey Filters applied to them? Or are they Audyssey-less?

The internal AVR test tones do not have Audyssey filters applied to them. Be aware of this when independently checking the SPLs with a meter - the Audyssey filtration may have boosted some frequencies enough to make a difference to the SPL detected if you are using the level test tones to verify Audyssey's settings. If you use an independent mic and independent tones (eg with REW or OmniMic), then of course you can check the levels with or without Audyssey's contribution. It's mentioned briefly in the last paragraph of this FAQ answer:

e)3.   Why does my My Sound Pressure Level meter give a different result to Audyssey?