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post #60571 of 62195
3/10/13 at 2:01pm
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post #60572 of 62195
3/10/13 at 3:11pm
Hello everyone,

I'm looking for a little guidance, I have a denon avr 1713 that I setup my system using audyessey. I apparently read the thread wrong when setting up my system and thought that my sub db level needed to be no more/less then +/- 3db. So I continue to adjust the knob on my sub (bic pl 200) till audyessey read my sub +/- 3db.

/my question is should I rerun audyessey and leave my sub knob dial at noon? I guess the only reason to adjust the dial on the sub is if audyessey is reading the sub maxed out...

Any thoughts would be really appreciated
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post #60573 of 62195
3/10/13 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by woody777 View Post

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Is it possible that your suspended wooden floor is causing vibrations to enter the mic? This would make Audyssey 'think' that there is more bass response than there is and dial it down as a result. If you can stand the tripod legs on some thick-ish foam rubber, that would rule that out. Better yet is a proper mic stand of course - 20 bucks from Amazon.

What does it sound like when you switch from Audyssey on to Audyssey off?  Doesn't tell us much but it's interesting to hear the difference. 

I've got pretty thick carpets, but vibrations are possible. This is the same setup I used to run Audyssey with the Onkyo. I used the same spots as well (at least as close as possible). With Audyssey off, it sounds much worse. I even turned off Dynamic EQ first to compare.

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Woody-what Audyssey microphone are you using with your Denon & can you confirm that you have Dynamic Volume set to OFF?

I'm using the mic that came with the Denon. Dynamic volume is definitely off.



I plugged my Onkyo back in to make sure I'm not just imaging the differences. The difference is pretty drastic. I keep coming back to the sub woofer volume. On my Onkyo, the subwoofer volume was set at 50%. This set my subwoofer trim to -5. All speakers measure 77db (internal test tones) with my db meter and I didn't boost the subwoofer trim to achieve this. On the Denon, 50% sets the trim to -12 and 25% sets it to -4.5. Regardless of this, the Denon is setting the speakers level at 72-73 db (internal test tones) and the sub is well below at around 66-68 db. Boosting the sub to match helps a bit, but the Denon still lacks depth, punch, and volume in comparison.

I've been going back and forth between the two to compare -- even trying to match the listening volumes with my db meter to not let volume trick me. I've been listening to Band of Horses "No One's Gonna Love You." It's a tough track because the guitars are bright and hot. With the Onkyo, the kick drum comes through clear and clean. With the Denon, it does not.


So level matching the sub to 72-73dB on the Denon doesn't fix it for you? I have always had to level match after running Audyssey, but I still think you are going to back to a "lumpy" bass response that you prefer somewhat on the old AVR, and you just aren't used to a level response. FWIW I never ended up liking a level response so I have always opted to have my subs a little hot, usually 3-5dB over the mains. I have dialed it back to that over time as well, as I used to prefer 10-12dB hot!!! eek.gif I still go back to that sometimes just for a little fun!!!!
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post #60574 of 62195
3/10/13 at 4:03pm
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So level matching the sub to 72-73dB on the Denon doesn't fix it for you? I have always had to level match after running Audyssey, but I still think you are going to back to a "lumpy" bass response that you prefer somewhat on the old AVR, and you just aren't used to a level response. FWIW I never ended up liking a level response so I have always opted to have my subs a little hot, usually 3-5dB over the mains. I have dialed it back to that over time as well, as I used to prefer 10-12dB hot!!! eek.gif I still go back to that sometimes just for a little fun!!!!

Level matching made it better for sure, but the bass on the Onkyo just sounds better -- deeper, cleaner, more pronounced. And that was no boost over the mains. I did have Dynamic EQ enabled (that typically was all the boost I wanted/needed).

I had a bit of free time today so I took some measurements. Please keep in mind I don't necessarily know what I'm doing and I am armed only with a Radioshack db meter.

I tried to get as close to apples to apples as I could. I used the db meter to level match the speakers and sub in the Denon to 76 db (I know I said 77 db earlier -- but I measured the Onkyo again and 76 was more accurate). I left the distances as is (they were super close -- the Denon allows for smaller incremental changes so it was a bit more accurate). Speakers set to small and crossed over at 80. Both had Audyssey EQ on. Both had Dynamic EQ on. I used a warble tone CD to measure 12 frequencies. I adjusted the master volume so the 1K hit the same db on each.

Onkyo:
1K - 71
200 - 72
160 - 79
125 - 81
100 - 80
80 - 74
63 - 79
50 - 83
40 - 84
31.5 - 81
25 - 82
20 - 76

Denon:
1K - 71
200 - 68
160 - 73
125 - 71
100 - 73
80 - 70
63 - 72
50 - 79
40 - 81
31.5 - 80
25 - 81
20 - 79

I know the thought is that the Onkyo had lumpy bass that I got used to and I need to readjust my ears to the flatter response from the Denon. I totally agree, but looking at the numbers, I don't necessarily agree that the Denon is flatter. I know the Onkyo has a big bump at 160 that the Denon doesn't have, but look at the big bump in the Denon at 50 -- and up until 50, those numbers are pretty low.

I'm not sure exactly what to make of this -- what do you guys think?
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post #60575 of 62195
3/10/13 at 4:19pm
Are the distances that audyssey measures on each unit the same and/or accurate. What you might be hearing is some discrepancies in the time domain as opposed to the frequency domain. Take a tape measure and see if you can tweak the sub and main LCR speaker distances to something that will possibly remedy this. Without a mic and full measurement rig, you really can't post your results, but it wouldn't hurt just adjusting these some too see if it helps at all!!!!
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post #60576 of 62195
3/10/13 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by beastaudio View Post

Are the distances that audyssey measures on each unit the same and/or accurate. What you might be hearing is some discrepancies in the time domain as opposed to the frequency domain. Take a tape measure and see if you can tweak the sub and main LCR speaker distances to something that will possibly remedy this. Without a mic and full measurement rig, you really can't post your results, but it wouldn't hurt just adjusting these some too see if it helps at all!!!!

Please do not follow this advice. Do not use a tape measure, especially not for the sub. Audyssey is usually famous for setting the distances pretty well for the satellites, yet the sub distance is needed to be offset mainly to a longer distance due to the delay caused by the electronics inside the sub. tongue.gif
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post #60577 of 62195
3/10/13 at 4:44pm
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Are the distances that audyssey measures on each unit the same and/or accurate. What you might be hearing is some discrepancies in the time domain as opposed to the frequency domain. Take a tape measure and see if you can tweak the sub and main LCR speaker distances to something that will possibly remedy this. Without a mic and full measurement rig, you really can't post your results, but it wouldn't hurt just adjusting these some too see if it helps at all!!!!

Please do not follow this advice. Do not use a tape measure, especially not for the sub. Audyssey is usually famous for setting the distances pretty well for the satellites, yet the sub distance is needed to be offset mainly to a longer distance due to the delay caused by the electronics inside the sub. tongue.gif

Back on that again huh? rolleyes.gif jeez. Yea, Woody, I guess you should not experiment after all, just suck it up and stay unhappy with your new AVR :megasmiley face:
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post #60578 of 62195
3/10/13 at 5:50pm
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Yes - I can see four possible scenarios for you:
  1. Cluster all 8 measurements around the MLP
  2. Put 6 measurements around the MLP and one to each side, in the centre of the other front row seats
  3. Put 4 the measurements around the MLP and one on each of the other front row seats and two on the back row
  4. Put 6 measurements around the MLP and two on the back row (least promising as if you have two additional listeners, chances are they will sit on the front row.

Obviously there are many more possibilities, but I think those 4 cover those most likely to work for you.

Please let us know how you get on.

Thanks. I did 6 measurements in the first row, clustered towards the two center seats and 2 in the back row. Just listened for a few minutes before I had to make dinner, so far it sounds good. We'll see once I go through a few movies, but so far I'm happy.
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post #60579 of 62195
3/10/13 at 10:51pm
Question: OKon the Integra DHC 80.3, I press the DVR/DVD button and STANDBY to clear the last calibration. I still see info in the speaker setup and the level speaker menu still has trim levels entered from a calibration. How do I clear everything back to "0" so no info is showing for a speaker setup in those menu's?
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post #60580 of 62195
3/10/13 at 11:55pm
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Originally Posted by glantern30 View Post

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for a little guidance, I have a denon avr 1713 that I setup my system using audyessey. I apparently read the thread wrong when setting up my system and thought that my sub db level needed to be no more/less then +/- 3db. So I continue to adjust the knob on my sub (bic pl 200) till audyessey read my sub +/- 3db.

/my question is should I rerun audyessey and leave my sub knob dial at noon? I guess the only reason to adjust the dial on the sub is if audyessey is reading the sub maxed out...

Any thoughts would be really appreciated

At the start of your Audyssey calibration routine, you will be instructed to set the volume of the sub so that it read 75dB SPL at your Main Listening Position (MLP, also the position 1 for Audyssey).

You do this by placing your Audyssey mic at ear level at the MLP, and following the on-screen SPL readout, adjusting the volume knob on your sub up or down as needed until the SPL reado 75 dBut shows within +/- 3dB of 75 dB. Depending on your room acoustics and the sub model, it might turn out that the sub volume knob might end up at noon, or 3 o'clock, (or like in my case, 10 o'clock), etc. The position really depends on your specific setup, and is only related to the volume setting of anyone else's sub in the sense that both settings result in a 75dB (+/- 3dB) SPL in their respective rooms.

Once you have set the volume of your sub thusly, you will proceed through the rest of the Audyssey calibration to achieve room-correction specific to your room and components in the audio chain. Go back to the receiver settings, and change your front speakers to "SMALL" if they were set to "LARGE" or "Full Band", and increase the crossover to 80Hz if it was set lower. If you still find the bass not strong enough for your tastes, go to the receiver's set up menus, find the setting to increase the subwoofer volume (also called trim for the subwoofer/LFE channel).

DO NOT touch the volume knob on the sub again after Audyssey calibration.
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post #60581 of 62195
3/11/13 at 3:30am
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Originally Posted by glantern30 View Post

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for a little guidance, I have a denon avr 1713 that I setup my system using audyessey. I apparently read the thread wrong when setting up my system and thought that my sub db level needed to be no more/less then +/- 3db. So I continue to adjust the knob on my sub (bic pl 200) till audyessey read my sub +/- 3db.

/my question is should I rerun audyessey and leave my sub knob dial at noon? I guess the only reason to adjust the dial on the sub is if audyessey is reading the sub maxed out...

Any thoughts would be really appreciated

 

If your sub trim is +/- 3dB you are in great shape and are all done. Does it sound good to you?

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post #60582 of 62195
3/11/13 at 3:31am
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

Question: OKon the Integra DHC 80.3, I press the DVR/DVD button and STANDBY to clear the last calibration. I still see info in the speaker setup and the level speaker menu still has trim levels entered from a calibration. How do I clear everything back to "0" so no info is showing for a speaker setup in those menu's?

 

Bill - I replied in the 80.3 thread with the Onkyo "Absolutely definitely clear everything" procedure.

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post #60583 of 62195
3/11/13 at 3:35am
Going to try a experiment tonight. The plate amp on my sub died before getting the chance to try Audyssey. So for now I have installed a extra Carver (M-4.0t) 2 channel amp bridged to 1000 watts driving the sub. It's only tested in the equipment room as I don't have the extra speaker wire run to it's new location. It sounds OK there. Will run that wire tonight. Carver/sub combination sounds good in the equipment room. Lets see what it sounds like after Audyssey. With no adjustments of any kind on the Carver or the sub it will be totally up to Audyssey and the AVR to adjust it out.
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post #60584 of 62195
3/11/13 at 3:48am
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Going to try a experiment tonight. The plate amp on my sub died before getting the chance to try Audyssey. So for now I have installed a extra Carver (M-4.0t) 2 channel amp bridged to 1000 watts driving the sub. It's only tested in the equipment room as I don't have the extra speaker wire run to it's new location. It sounds OK there. Will run that wire tonight. Carver/sub combination sounds good in the equipment room. Lets see what it sounds like after Audyssey. With no adjustments of any kind on the Carver or the sub it will be totally up to Audyssey and the AVR to adjust it out.

How will you adjust the sub amp's gain to get the sub calibrated to 75dB before running Audyssey?  It might not matter and the final trims may be within range (not maxed) but it seems unlikely if you are dumping 1000 'untamed' watts into the sub. Please let us know how you get on.

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post #60585 of 62195
3/11/13 at 5:22am
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So level matching the sub to 72-73dB on the Denon doesn't fix it for you? I have always had to level match after running Audyssey, but I still think you are going to back to a "lumpy" bass response that you prefer somewhat on the old AVR, and you just aren't used to a level response. FWIW I never ended up liking a level response so I have always opted to have my subs a little hot, usually 3-5dB over the mains. I have dialed it back to that over time as well, as I used to prefer 10-12dB hot!!! eek.gif I still go back to that sometimes just for a little fun!!!!

Level matching made it better for sure, but the bass on the Onkyo just sounds better -- deeper, cleaner, more pronounced. And that was no boost over the mains. I did have Dynamic EQ enabled (that typically was all the boost I wanted/needed).

I had a bit of free time today so I took some measurements. Please keep in mind I don't necessarily know what I'm doing and I am armed only with a Radioshack db meter.

I tried to get as close to apples to apples as I could. I used the db meter to level match the speakers and sub in the Denon to 76 db (I know I said 77 db earlier -- but I measured the Onkyo again and 76 was more accurate). I left the distances as is (they were super close -- the Denon allows for smaller incremental changes so it was a bit more accurate). Speakers set to small and crossed over at 80. Both had Audyssey EQ on. Both had Dynamic EQ on. I used a warble tone CD to measure 12 frequencies. I adjusted the master volume so the 1K hit the same db on each.

Onkyo:
1K - 71
200 - 72
160 - 79
125 - 81
100 - 80
80 - 74
63 - 79
50 - 83
40 - 84
31.5 - 81
25 - 82
20 - 76

Denon:
1K - 71
200 - 68
160 - 73
125 - 71
100 - 73
80 - 70
63 - 72
50 - 79
40 - 81
31.5 - 80
25 - 81
20 - 79

I know the thought is that the Onkyo had lumpy bass that I got used to and I need to readjust my ears to the flatter response from the Denon. I totally agree, but looking at the numbers, I don't necessarily agree that the Denon is flatter. I know the Onkyo has a big bump at 160 that the Denon doesn't have, but look at the big bump in the Denon at 50 -- and up until 50, those numbers are pretty low.

I'm not sure exactly what to make of this -- what do you guys think?

 

Its very odd.  

 

I assume the mics that came with the Onkyo and the Denon are the same model - the AC1MH. Have you tried using the Onkyo mic with the Denon to see if that makes a difference?  There is a possibility that the Denon mic is bad (there have been a few reports recently of bad mics). 

 

And you definitely, absolutely have not made any changes other than swapping out the AVRS?  I know you have said so but it's easy to forget sometimes that one made a change somewhere.

 

Just double check this FAQ answer on mic interchangeability and make sure yours conforms before you do anything:

 

d)4.   Do I have to use the mic that came with my AVR or PrePro?

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post #60586 of 62195
3/11/13 at 6:51am
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Are the distances that audyssey measures on each unit the same and/or accurate. What you might be hearing is some discrepancies in the time domain as opposed to the frequency domain. Take a tape measure and see if you can tweak the sub and main LCR speaker distances to something that will possibly remedy this. Without a mic and full measurement rig, you really can't post your results, but it wouldn't hurt just adjusting these some too see if it helps at all!!!!

Measurements as indicated by Audyssey are almost spot on -- even more accurate than with my Onkyo.
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Its very odd.  

I assume the mics that came with the Onkyo and the Denon are the same model - the AC1MH. Have you tried using the Onkyo mic with the Denon to see if that makes a difference?  There is a possibility that the Denon mic is bad (there have been a few reports recently of bad mics). 

And you definitely, absolutely have not made any changes other than swapping out the AVRS?  I know you have said so but it's easy to forget sometimes that one made a change somewhere.

Just double check this FAQ answer on mic interchangeability and make sure yours conforms before you do anything:

d)4.   Do I have to use the mic that came with my AVR or PrePro?

My Onyko came with the ACM1 (the box does not have the "H"). The Denon came with the DM-A409. According to the FAQ you linked, these should be interchangeable. I see no mention of an ACM1, so I assume mine is the ACM1H.

I've been racking my brain, but I didn't change a single thing anywhere -- in my HT setup, in the room, in the way I calibrated using Audyssey. I did try a different sub cable just to make sure, but the results and sound were the same.

I will try to use the Onkyo mic on the Denon tonight.
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post #60587 of 62195
3/11/13 at 9:14am
Why is it suggested to NOT CHANGE THE VOLUME on the sub after calibration? I have a sub that has a remote and can change on the fly. For movies I like it hot but for TV I like it the way audyssey set it. So I am often using the remote to crank the sub up, then I can hit reset on the sub and it goes back to saved settings. I find it easier to just grab the sub remote instead of going through the menu on my onkyo to chage the trim level. Does it really matter if I do it this way?
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post #60588 of 62195
3/11/13 at 9:18am
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Why is it suggested to NOT CHANGE THE VOLUME on the sub after calibration? I have a sub that has a remote and can change on the fly. For movies I like it hot but for TV I like it the way audyssey set it. So I am often using the remote to crank the sub up, then I can hit reset on the sub and it goes back to saved settings. I find it easier to just grab the sub remote instead of going through the menu on my onkyo to chage the trim level. Does it really matter if I do it this way?

It is recommended that individual channel level changes be done in the receiver/processor because they are easily recordable changes that can be restored if needed. I don't know of any subs with precise .5dB level changes.

I haven't looked at my 5508, but my 885 had a remote that very easily would change an individual channel level ...
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post #60589 of 62195
3/11/13 at 9:25am
With my velo DD-12 and DD-15 it is .4 each volume number. I usually bump it up 3-4, so that would be roughly 1.2-1.4 db. Like I said I can just hit the reset button on my remote and it goes back to saved audyssey settings. As long as there is no ill affects with audyssey doing it this way there should be no problem right?
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post #60590 of 62195
3/11/13 at 9:30am
No ill effects, it's just not the best way to do it. Some times "easiest" bests "best."
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post #60591 of 62195
3/11/13 at 9:33am

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post #60592 of 62195
3/11/13 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by raaj View Post

At the start of your Audyssey calibration routine, you will be instructed to set the volume of the sub so that it read 75dB SPL at your Main Listening Position (MLP, also the position 1 for Audyssey).

You do this by placing your Audyssey mic at ear level at the MLP, and following the on-screen SPL readout, adjusting the volume knob on your sub up or down as needed until the SPL reado 75 dBut shows within +/- 3dB of 75 dB. Depending on your room acoustics and the sub model, it might turn out that the sub volume knob might end up at noon, or 3 o'clock, (or like in my case, 10 o'clock), etc. The position really depends on your specific setup, and is only related to the volume setting of anyone else's sub in the sense that both settings result in a 75dB (+/- 3dB) SPL in their respective rooms.

Once you have set the volume of your sub thusly, you will proceed through the rest of the Audyssey calibration to achieve room-correction specific to your room and components in the audio chain. Go back to the receiver settings, and change your front speakers to "SMALL" if they were set to "LARGE" or "Full Band", and increase the crossover to 80Hz if it was set lower. If you still find the bass not strong enough for your tastes, go to the receiver's set up menus, find the setting to increase the subwoofer volume (also called trim for the subwoofer/LFE channel).

DO NOT touch the volume knob on the sub again after Audyssey calibration.

Ahhh yeah my version of audyssey does none of that, on the avr 1713 you plugged the mic in it goes through a couple small items and starts up. it says nothing about the sub to beginning with
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post #60593 of 62195
3/11/13 at 9:48am
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If your sub trim is +/- 3dB you are in great shape and are all done. Does it sound good to you?

Yes, according to audyssey my sub is reading at -2dbs.. but thats because I re ran audyssey several times till I adjusted the knob on the back of my reciever (trim knob) to 9'oclock and made the trim-2dbs. I was told that I didn't have to do that and as long as I wasn't maxing out (+/-12dbs) I was fine.

Its sounds good to me But I thought I may have ran audyssey wrong by conitnuing to adjust the trim till it hi a certain point instead of letting audyssey do its job
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post #60594 of 62195
3/11/13 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by SeekingNirvana View Post

Why is it suggested to NOT CHANGE THE VOLUME on the sub after calibration? I have a sub that has a remote and can change on the fly. For movies I like it hot but for TV I like it the way audyssey set it. So I am often using the remote to crank the sub up, then I can hit reset on the sub and it goes back to saved settings. I find it easier to just grab the sub remote instead of going through the menu on my onkyo to chage the trim level. Does it really matter if I do it this way?

 

So long as your sub has a digital volume readout of some sort, that is fine. The recommendation to do it in the AVR is purely so that you can easily go back to pre-determined level (the calibrated level). It is easier to go from -5.0dB to -7.5dB than it is on a typical sub volume (gain) control. But if yours has such a readout, then it's fine to do it your way.

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post #60595 of 62195
3/11/13 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by Pfeffernuss View Post

Good day chaps. After reading a multitude of pages concerning Audyssey I decided to combine some things and make one large document containing: the Audyssey Set-up guide, FAQ and Audyssey 101.

After spending the whole morning and afternoon on this task I made a PDF and uploaded it here.

Might be of some use for people. For things like this I think it's more convenient to have it in print so I made a booklet. As it's a personal document the front page contains my own device and name. Can remove those and upload a "clean" version ofcourse and/or the original .docx file as well, if demand is there :-)

If it violates some rules/IP please remove the link and all is well, it was for personal use in the first place but just trying to do something back to this amazing community over here! wink.gif

 

I can't speak for giomania who compiled the setup guide but it is OK by me to make a booklet version of the FAQ and 101. The only problem is that they are regularly (weekly typically) updated as new info etc comes to hand, so it would be a good idea to include a mention of this, along with the FAQ URL, so that anyone with the printed version is aware of this and also knows where to come for the latest version. I assume you will not keep it up to date weekly. Whether it violates any AVS copyright rules, I have no idea - but it probably does ;) You;d need to ask an Admin or Mod about that.

 

EDIT: I looked at  it now - the main thing I don't like about is that the interactive links have all disappeared. The value of the way it is done in the thread is that the hyperlinks massively add to its usefulness. I woud prefer you not to distribute it in its current form, or to reinstate all the links - both the FAQ Qs to the FAQ As and all the 'see also' and 'further reading' links. I also think it should not have a picture of a specific Onkyo unit on it, nor your own name as the 'complier' because it is misleading.


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3/11/13 at 10:14am
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If your sub trim is +/- 3dB you are in great shape and are all done. Does it sound good to you?

Yes, according to audyssey my sub is reading at -2dbs.. but thats because I re ran audyssey several times till I adjusted the knob on the back of my reciever (trim knob) to 9'oclock and made the trim-2dbs. I was told that I didn't have to do that and as long as I wasn't maxing out (+/-12dbs) I was fine.

Its sounds good to me But I thought I may have ran audyssey wrong by conitnuing to adjust the trim till it hi a certain point instead of letting audyssey do its job

 

No - you are fine. In fact you have done it the best way IMO, as a trim around the centre point is a good idea for various reasons.

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3/11/13 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by raaj View Post

At the start of your Audyssey calibration routine, you will be instructed to set the volume of the sub so that it read 75dB SPL at your Main Listening Position (MLP, also the position 1 for Audyssey).

You do this by placing your Audyssey mic at ear level at the MLP, and following the on-screen SPL readout, adjusting the volume knob on your sub up or down as needed until the SPL reado 75 dBut shows within +/- 3dB of 75 dB.

RAAJ - the majority of receivers with Audyssey do NOT have this on-screen sub volume setup feature.
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3/11/13 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by SeekingNirvana View Post

Why is it suggested to NOT CHANGE THE VOLUME on the sub after calibration? I have a sub that has a remote and can change on the fly. For movies I like it hot but for TV I like it the way audyssey set it. So I am often using the remote to crank the sub up, then I can hit reset on the sub and it goes back to saved settings. I find it easier to just grab the sub remote instead of going through the menu on my onkyo to chage the trim level. Does it really matter if I do it this way?

You are fine. The primary reason to adjust in the receivers vs. a knob on the sub is that you can always return precisely to the calibrated value (unlike an analog gain knob on the sub). Since you have a digital volume control on the sub, this point is moot for you and there is no reason not to use the "easy" way.
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post #60599 of 62195
3/11/13 at 11:00am
Ok that's what I thought, I didn't think it would make anything sound different. Trim in the avr and gain on the sub are the same. Thanks for the replies.
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post #60600 of 62195
3/11/13 at 11:22am
hi guys, how high should i place my surrounds from my listening position? my fronts is 4 feet tall(RC 70), and surrounds 5 feet tall(with stand). should i balance my surrounds as the same height with my fronts?
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