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post #58621 of 70911
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Jason,

Speaking as one who has benefited from your assistance recently, I want to thank you for opening our eyes to these new REW capabilities. As a long-time REW user, I have always dreaded the set-up and tear-down time for the external sound card, mixer, mic and cables. I am looking forward to streamlining my kit! Thanks again for your valued contributions, even though you don't visit us here often enough.

You're so very welcome, Jerry!

I've enjoyed talking to you very much and am happy to help.

Maybe now since it's just one cable, you can leave it hooked up!

That's what I do and find myself taking measurements at the spur of the moment when I just wanna check something out all the time. biggrin.gif

I swear I listen to more test tones/sine sweeps and look more at AVS/Gearslutz/REW Graphs than I listen to music or watch movies, lol.

I do spend a lot of time here and read every single post.

I only wish I was faster at replying! The last time I was actually able to help a few folks out on this particular thread was when Jeff went on vacation last year! biggrin.gif

I'm only able to get on here about once, sometimes twice a day, and it's normally late like now, so when questions come up I know the answers to and want to help, Keith, Jeff, you, or Feri has already answered!

I look forward to starting a new thread and hopefully will be able to be much more active and give back much more over there.

Talk to ya soon, I'm sure...

--J
post #58622 of 70911
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A great post Jason - thanks. I may still be tempted (your argument is very seductive). What would I need as an external soundcard to connect to my prepro? Can you recommend one?  Is it OK to connect that to the front AUX connector on my prepro?  I would need a long lead as my hardware is in a closet outside the HT - what sort of lead would this be?  Thanks for you help.


Wow, Keith! I've been called a lot of things in my life, but seductive is a new one! biggrin.gif


LOL!  Well, I was definitely seduced by your post and am even actively considering REW, which I have never done before. In my case "actively considering" is usually just a prelude to buying smile.gif

I wouldn't be surprised if you have already bought a mic before even reading my response! biggrin.gif
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You will NOT need an "external" sound card. I'm SURE your PC/Laptop has a sound card and the one that is built-in is more than adequate if manufactured in the last 10 years or so. Promise! (My business is computer hardware/software, sales and service, in business since 1994, so I'm sure of this)


OK - that is terrific then. My Windows laptop is less than a year old - it isn't a high spec thing by any means but will do the job. I think I will go with the Windows version of REW - there is more likely to be good support here for Windows than Mac, and it keeps all my audio stuff on the Windows lappy (which is what I bought it for).

Good, because actually, this is a beta version of REW with these new features and unfortunately, for now, it does require Windows. I'm certain Mac will be supported in the near future, but just to be clear, everyone will have to use Windows for now if using the new USB Mic PNP option w/ ASIO support.
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Yes, the front AUX is exactly what I use. If you want "easy" (actually, every method is very easy, but this is the long-term/in-use tried and true method) and only care about the front 3 channels as far as testing goes, then you can use a simple RCA cable, and 25' or so is fine, but I wouldn't go more than 50' max, and stay as close to 25' as possible.


Monoprice makes great ones and you can do the same for even less. All they do is use standard RG-6 Sat/CATV cable and put some RCA plugs on the end. I make my own for even less, but if you don't want to fool with it and don't need custom lengths, their prices cannot be beat.


OK - understood. I do only (currently at least) care about the LCR channels plus Subs of course.

Then you can use an RCA cable or HDMI. Doesn't matter at all if just testing LCR/Subs. Whatever you have laying around is fine.
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You'll simply plug the mic in to your PC/Laptop (Up to 15' standard USB extension cable can be used and if you need longer than that, Monoprice again has wonderful and cheap options for amplified USB cables for much longer lengths) and then from the sound card in the same computer you'll run an RCA cable back into your pre-pro's AUX input.


When you say the 'sound card in the same computer' this would be the audio out connection I assume? This seems to be limited on my machine (from memory) to the headphone out socket - is that what you mean?

Yes, the headphone out is fine. You'll simply plug an RCA cable from that (may need a 1/8" to RCA adapter for a buck or so at Monoprice) into the front AUX on your Onkyo, then plug the Mic into a USB port on the same laptop and that's it! If doing it this way, you won't even need to fool with the ASIO driver because that's just for HDMI and if you want all 8 channels.
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If you want access to all channels for testing (the only program that does this, for free or any reasonable amount of money at least) then you'll need a PC/Mac/Laptop with HDMI. You'll simply plug the Mic in to the USB port, same as the other example, and then run an HDMI cable from your computer to your pre-pro.


My lappy has HDMI, so I think I would prefer this route. I just connect an HDMI lead to the lappy HDMI socket and then into a suitable HDMI input on my 5509 - the one on the front panel would be terrific as it is not easy to get to the back of the unit. Is my assumption here correct?

Ok, then. Yes. You can do this, "OR" the method with the RCA cable mentioned above. You will NOT do both. The method above is for folks who either don't have HDMI or don't need access to test/measure more than the LCR/Subs. Since you DO have HDMI, then in your case, you'll simply plug an HDMI cable from your laptop into your 5509 and the front AUX is fine for this. Then plug the MIC in, and you're done. You won't be hooking any cables up to your sound card at all, won't need the adapter, and won't use the RCA cable.
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There are no other cables/connections required. Then simply download the driver from the link Jeff posted above, install it (can't mess this up - anyone can do it...Just click next next finish) and you're good to go.
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BTW - TO ALL - I have received several PM's from folks asking for assistance and assure you I am responding to each and every person and will assist each and every one of you. I LOVE this stuff and have learned so much here in the two years I've been a member and am so happy I can finally give back!


Keith, the offer goes to you too. If you want to learn REW and have any questions, from physical setup to use to interpreting the graphs (plus how to set them, what to look for,etc) I'm more than willing to help you and give you one on one guidance, even over the phone if that is what it takes, as my way of saying thank you for all the time you spend helping others.


I honestly don't know what I would've done without Jeff's posts and your posts in the beginning and when I compare my system and room, plus knowledge then (2 years ago) to what I've learned and applied now, it's as if I went from a HTIB to a $250,000 system (at least set up the way most people's high end stuff is compared to the "right" way wink.gif  ) so don't worry, have a little faith, and I promise, I'm here for you.



Jason - this is terrific and I thank you sincerely for the kind offer of support. I am sure I will need it. 

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You may want to take a look at mine and Jerry's thread from a month or so ago. There is a lot of great info in there. Don't worry if it confuses you at first. If it at least intrigues you and you want to learn more or it excites you vs putting you to sleep, then you need to hurry up and get your mic and cable so we can get you going. smile.gif  I don't have the link handy but I'm sure Jerry can provide it for you.


Let me know how you feel after reading that and if you wish to proceed, remember, I'm here, and so are a lot of very knowledgeable people.


We won't leave you hanging!


HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!


I did read your thread with Jerry, just for interest. I will go back and look at it again with a new eye... thanks. And HNY2U2!!

Your welcome, Keith.

I will probably be PM'ing you if that's okay, as I do feel we have (I take full responsibility here) totally derailed the Audyssey thread and think we need a new/dedicated thread, but have some questions and want to discuss some logistics before starting one.

Thanks,

--J
post #58623 of 70911
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Originally Posted by jevansoh View Post

All it is is a driver/program that you will download and install one time. You can't really mess it up. It's easy. I'm here if you need help, but with this step at least, I cannot imagine you having any issues. Simply download and install.


--J

Thanks Jason - I get it now. Even I can install a driver! LOL. I've just downloaded it in readiness.
 

 

Great, but remember, and this goes for everyone reading this... You only need to install this IF you will be using HDMI from your computer to your Pre-Pro/AVR.

If instead you'll be hooking up an RCA cable, you will NOT need to install this.

The difference is, with HDMI and this driver, you have access to measure all 8 channels and with RCA you can only measure (easily, at least) LCR/Subs.

--J
post #58624 of 70911
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

I just ordered this one: http://cross-spectrum.com/measurement/calibrated_umm6.html

They are on back order, with a shipping estimate of late January.

Do we need a new thread for Audyssey aficionados exploring new REW capabilities?

YES! wink.gif

I'm very happy and excited that so many folks are interested in exploring exactly what is going on in their rooms and exactly what Audyssey is doing/not doing, but I don't know this is the proper thread for it.

However, before starting a new thread, I'd like some input...

What should we call it? I don't know that we should imply limiting it to only Audyssey users, but then again, there are already other catch-all threads and I don't want it to turn into such a diverse (read: LONG) thread such as this or the Acoustical Treatments Master thread where there is so much misinformation that folks can't wade through it.

I've never personally started/maintained a thread before, but do have some ideas of what "I" feel the scope should be, but would like to hear from you and others first.

I'd like for us to get it right the first time. wink.gif

Thanks,

--J
post #58625 of 70911
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

I just ordered this one: http://cross-spectrum.com/measurement/calibrated_umm6.html


They are on back order, with a shipping estimate of late January.


Do we need a new thread for Audyssey aficionados exploring new REW capabilities?

I may well order the same mic too. Late January will give me some time to get to grips with some of the principles. If REW works out for me, I would expect to get a good price for my OM kit, but I won't be rushing to sell it.

I think a separate thread for "REW for Audyssey Users" would be a terrific idea. I nominate Jason as the Thread Starter as he is very knowledgeable in this area and also so extremely helpful. 

That's kind of you, Keith.

Would it be okay if I PM you?

As some of you may have noticed, I tend to reply to all posts about once a day, normally around the same time each day, which is in the evening (EST) so I wonder if it would be appropriate for me to start it and take the responsibilities that come along with that since my current schedule doesn't allow me to participate at all hours of the day/night like I'd like to.

I don't want to commit to folks and let anyone down.

I DO want to help where I can and give my input on this subject, as quite frankly, I have spent a considerable amount of time over the last few years studying acoustics and psychoacoustics and do feel I have a lot to share on the subject.

We need to define the scope of the thread and if we wish to put Audyssey in the title as for folks who don't already read this thread but may want to learn more about room treatment and using REW might think the thread wouldn't apply to them?

Or am I totally wrong with that thought and those folks maybe should go to one of the catch-all threads and maybe we actually should keep it closely tied with the folks in this thread??

I have some ideas of what the scope of the thread should be, but I'd like input from all of you before I state them.

Would you be able, interested, and have time, to possibly help manage a FAQ? There are SO MANY of the same questions I see throughout AVS, HTShack, and Gearslutz, and unfortunately, there is also a ton of plain wrong information out there and I just know a thread such as this is going to get a lot of the same questions.

I'm thinking maybe the first post in the thread should outline the scope so we can help keep it in line and on topic and the second post should be the FAQ with all the common questions/answers laid out in plain sight where we can add to it as needed.

Or maybe make the 3rd post the FAQ and the 2nd post a getting started/hookup guide, etc??

But I'm probably getting ahead of myself. tongue.gif

Ideas on how to move forward?? Due to my availability and timing of my posts, am I truly the best person to start this??

I'm open to anything but can only promise one thing. I will answer every question from every person directed towards me personally, and will try to offer assistance with any other question that I can, unless someone else beats me to it, which is what always seems to happen, darnit! wink.gif

I'm excited now! biggrin.gif

--J
post #58626 of 70911
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

I just ordered this one: http://cross-spectrum.com/measurement/calibrated_umm6.html


They are on back order, with a shipping estimate of late January.


Do we need a new thread for Audyssey aficionados exploring new REW capabilities?

Inevitably, I have now ordered the mic. About to download the beta of REW...  is that a rabbit I see before me - I didn't know they came so deep....

I Knew it!! biggrin.gif I honestly and literally LOL'd when I read that.

Which one did you end up ordering, Keith?

--J
post #58627 of 70911
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

I think a separate thread for "REW for Audyssey Users" would be a terrific idea. I nominate Jason as the Thread Starter as he is very knowledgeable in this area and also so extremely helpful. 

+1. With more focused thread it will be less noise in both threads after all. And it will let people who are interested in the details and measurements to talk about their results and ideas without disturbing everyone.

I agree 100% and that is one of my main goals for the new thread.

Folks need to learn that the frequency response isn't the end-all...

There are a lot of things we can do on a new thread and if everyone could put up with these off topic posts for just another day or two, I think we can be moved over to another thread, and you're more than welcome to participate there, Igor!

Thanks for your patience in this matter while we figure out the details.

--J
post #58628 of 70911
NOTICE REGARDING USB MIC SELECTION:

I feel it important to let everyone in on a few things as there are some differences in the two options.

While this information needs to go in the new thread since folks are starting to spend their hard earned money, I didn't feel it appropriate to wait.

Please forgive the off-topic post. I'm only trying to help folks decide how to spend their money. wink.gif

First, I have recommended the UMM-6 USB Mic over the Mini-DSP for a few reasons. The most important reason is that for the same price (within a few dollars) you can get a true individually calibrated Mic with 0/45/90 degree axis and Polar Response data, from a Company in the US who also has great support if needed.

However, the current beta version of REW doesn't have the same total/100% PNP support for this Mic like it has for the Mini-DSP Mic.

BOTH Mics will hook up the same way, the same minimal amount of cabling, etc, but there will be a few more settings to select and set up in your PC and in REW if you purchase the UMM-6 Mic.

For folks that want a no nonsense, easy, and 100% PNP setup to be up and running with REW in 2 minutes, as of the time of this post, you need to purchase the Mini-DSP Mic.

In fact, as of right now, the Mini-DSP Mic is the only Mic that is in stock. smile.gif

You can always send the Mini-DSP Mic off to Herb at CSL and have it calibrated later, and once we get more samples of them and compare the mics and the calibration files they come with from the factory we "may" find this isn't even necessary as they "may" be close enough.

I am in talks with JohnM, the author of REW and in fact just sent him a PM over at HTShack before posting here, asking if he could/would please add the same support for the UMM-6 Mic that he has added for the Mini-DSP because quite frankly for all you can get with the UMM-6 as far as the calibration goes, and the 0/45/90 degrees plus the Polar Response data for the same price, it's a much better bargain.

However, I do understand folks with not much PC experience who are coming from Omnimic/XTZ and who want a simple/no-nonsense PNP solution may be a bit frustrated with me if they get the UMM-6 Mic and can't just plug it in and go.

I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from purchasing the UMM-6, but again, if you are going to be disappointed if you have to do anything or set anything other than plugging it in, please order the Mini-DSP!! For now, it's your only choice anyway as the UMM-6 is out of stock.

Hope I haven't confused anyone or turned anyone off of REW or the UMM-6, but I felt it necessary to offer full disclosure as to the situation as it stands at this moment.

When I hear back from JohnM I will let you all know.

While I cannot commit for him or speak for him, I don't feel it will be a big deal to add the UMM-6 to the dropdown list and make it a selectable item just as he has done for the Mini-DSP, but again, as of this moment, there is a bit (just a bit, honest) more involved in getting up and running with the UMM-6 Mic.

Thanks for listening, and again, I hope to have all this moved over to a new thread very soon and invite you all there!!

--J
post #58629 of 70911
I am not frightened away by the prospect of a little more effort getting the UMM-6 working with the new REW release. I like the idea of an individually-calibrated mic (like my EMM-6 fromSpectrum Labs). So, I am likely to keep my order as is for now. Since they are on back order, and since I am in no particular hurry, there is always time to change my mind as our discussions progress.
post #58630 of 70911
jevansoh, are you knowledgeable on ETC measuring? That is next up for me along with decays to verify my ears making me think I need to swap some absorbers out for diffusors.

Jeff
post #58631 of 70911
Regarding the new thread, here are my thoughts regarding the purpose of the thread:

- To assist existing REW users in reducing the complexity of their kits by providing guidance in implementing plug-and-play USB mics.
- To alleviate the apprehensions of those who don't use REW--it's not as difficult as it looks!
- To explore the uses and advantages of using HDMI connectivity and measuring speakers other than LCR and subs.
- To provide basic guidance for using REW measurement techniques to users of Audyssey RC, e.g. using REW to optimize speaker placements/room treatments prior to running RC, and to assess the post-calibration results.
- To provide a forum for sharing REW measurements for feedback and recommendations.
post #58632 of 70911
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

jevansoh, are you knowledgeable on ETC measuring? That is next up for me along with decays to verify my ears making me think I need to swap some absorbers out for diffusors.
Jeff

Not Jason, but this thread provided me with some good guidance on ETC as well as Waterfalls: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1432713/using-waterfall-and-etc-graphs-to-analyze-room-response/150#post_22551641
post #58633 of 70911
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Originally Posted by mogorf View Post

On the ASIO Control Panel click on the "+" sign to expand. It will show how many channels are available.

It looks like I have two:



I'm not going to buy another lap top so I guess I will just move the outputs to the channels I want to measure frown.gif
post #58634 of 70911
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

It looks like I have two:

I'm not going to buy another lap top so I guess I will just move the outputs to the channels I want to measure frown.gif

On my laptop, I have to plug in the HDMI lead and connect to the AVR before starting REW in order to see the multi-channel option in the ASIO control panel, or in the REW drop-downs. Give it a try.
Regards, Mike.
post #58635 of 70911
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

It looks like I have two:

I'm not going to buy another lap top so I guess I will just move the outputs to the channels I want to measure frown.gif

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On my laptop, I have to plug in the HDMI lead and connect to the AVR before starting REW in order to see the multi-channel option in the ASIO control panel, or in the REW drop-downs. Give it a try.
Regards, Mike.

Groggily this morning, I was just getting to that ... if a laptop lacks HDMI, then the ASIO panel won't present any HDMI output options.
post #58636 of 70911
So after finishing my very first DIY speaker build: I dusted off my REW setup (including a Tascam external soundcard/mixer). Thought it would be fun to characterize the new speaker's FR.
Lo and behold my laptop no longer recognizes the Tascam, I then dinked around for several hours, and finally gave up.

Then last night I discovered the latest buzz here, and just finished ordering myself a mini-DSP USB mic smile.gif
Looking forward to a new much easier to use REW setup.
post #58637 of 70911
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Originally Posted by cuzed2 View Post

So after finishing my very first DIY speaker build: I dusted off my REW setup (including a Tascam external soundcard/mixer). Thought it would be fun to characterize the new speaker's FR.
Lo and behold my laptop no longer recognizes the Tascam, I then dinked around for several hours, and finally gave up.
Then last night I discovered the latest buzz here, and just finished ordering myself a mini-DSP USB mic smile.gif
Looking forward to a new much easier to use REW setup.

You probaly need to use updated drivers for your TASCAM. Mine works fine on 64-bit Win 7.
post #58638 of 70911
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

You probaly need to use updated drivers for your TASCAM. Mine works fine on 64-bit Win 7.

Jeff and all,

Would it be nice (here or on the new thread) to start out with a list of minimum technical requirements (hardware/software both) for entering this brave new world of REW? Just thinking out loud! cool.gifsmile.gif
post #58639 of 70911
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Originally Posted by mogorf View Post

Jeff and all,
Would it be nice (here or on the new thread) to start out with a list of minimum technical requirements (hardware/software both) for entering this brave new world of REW? Just thinking out loud! cool.gifsmile.gif

Well, maybe ... but some of this stuff is pretty basic - use the latest drivers. It's not related to REW.

Boldog uj evet!

Jeff
post #58640 of 70911
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

You probaly need to use updated drivers for your TASCAM. Mine works fine on 64-bit Win 7.

Thanks pepar!
I did indeed download the latest drivers - but still no luck (the laptop is an older 32 bit / XP unit)
I just like the simplicity of not having to wrestle with a separate box and all of the associated controls/settings to confirm
post #58641 of 70911
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Originally Posted by cuzed2 View Post

Thanks pepar!
I did indeed download the latest drivers - but still no luck (the laptop is an older 32 bit / XP unit)
I just like the simplicity of not having to wrestle with a separate box and all of the associated controls/settings to confirm

Try a different cable, maybe? But, sure, a USB mic is a more elegant solution. Plus you can sell your pre-amp on eBay.
post #58642 of 70911
Yep!
Selling the preamp/mixer (my old mic), and moving on to a more elegant setup is indeed the plan.
post #58643 of 70911
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Well, maybe ... but some of this stuff is pretty basic - use the latest drivers. It's not related to REW.
Boldog uj evet!
Jeff

What is basic to some is rocket science for others,... until they can also become "some".

Boldog új évet neked is! (Happy New Year to you, too.) smile.gif
post #58644 of 70911
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

It looks like I have two:

I'm not going to buy another lap top so I guess I will just move the outputs to the channels I want to measure frown.gif

This forum thread may help/guide you with your query: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=142807

Look for post #4 and #8.

Report back, please!
post #58645 of 70911
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Originally Posted by mogorf View Post

What is basic to some is rocket science for others,... until they can also become "some".
Boldog új évet neked is! (Happy New Year to you, too.) smile.gif

Yeah, my point was regarding having info like that in the thread as a minimum requirement. We will certainly answer questions like that, but it's not possible to anticipate and cover all minutia in advance.

I'm a little cranky today ... wink.gif
post #58646 of 70911
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Originally Posted by jevansoh View Post

NOTICE REGARDING USB MIC SELECTION:

I feel it important to let everyone in on a few things as there are some differences in the two options.

While this information needs to go in the new thread since folks are starting to spend their hard earned money, I didn't feel it appropriate to wait.

Please forgive the off-topic post. I'm only trying to help folks decide how to spend their money. wink.gif

First, I have recommended the UMM-6 USB Mic over the Mini-DSP for a few reasons. The most important reason is that for the same price (within a few dollars) you can get a true individually calibrated Mic with 0/45/90 degree axis and Polar Response data, from a Company in the US who also has great support if needed.

However, the current beta version of REW doesn't have the same total/100% PNP support for this Mic like it has for the Mini-DSP Mic.

BOTH Mics will hook up the same way, the same minimal amount of cabling, etc, but there will be a few more settings to select and set up in your PC and in REW if you purchase the UMM-6 Mic.

For folks that want a no nonsense, easy, and 100% PNP setup to be up and running with REW in 2 minutes, as of the time of this post, you need to purchase the Mini-DSP Mic.

Can you explain in plain English the deal with the "PNP support" issue with the UMM-6? I think you have convinced me as I've always wanted to start measuring, but like I said before $300 wasn't going to work for Omnimic. A $100 plug-and-play solution sounds awesome, but I want to understand the "real world" consequence of what you are describing.

As an FYI, I will be installing on an 2-3 year old Netbook with a standard RCA mini jack output, so will be running mini-to-stereo RCA to my receiver's AUX IN front analog input. I'm fine with just measuring the front speakers + sub so it looks like all I need is the USB mic and I can be up and running?
post #58647 of 70911
^^^

Not jevansoh - the Plug-n-Play support referenced is in REW, not Windoze. Absent PNP in REW for the UMM-6, it would be selected and setup manually. REW has autmatic support for the DSP mic. If I didn't already have the gear, and was about to move off the fence and go USB, this would not be a deterrent.
post #58648 of 70911
thanks... PNP = Plug-n-Play, duh!
post #58649 of 70911
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I'm fine with just measuring the front speakers + sub so it looks like all I need is the USB mic and I can be up and running?

As a side note batpig, can you explain in plain English why only the front speakers + sub are important? Once there is the measuring gear why the rest of the speakers in the system are not needed to be "looked at"? (Even up to an 11.x setup!) The well-known method of cross-over splice setting/blending by way of sub distance tweaking comes to mind. But with the newly discovered PNP measuring gear each and every speaker + sub splice can be identified, eh!? Could it be that after the measurements the "well-known" method may be changed to tweaking each speaker's distance while keeping the sub distance unchanged? Just thinking out loud! smile.gif
post #58650 of 70911
No, I can't really, but it does seem obvious to me that the surrounds are less important than the front main speakers.

For me, it's simply an issue of practicality, as I don't have a laptop with HDMI output and am not going to go through the hassle of upgrading simply for this feature. I have only a 5.1 setup and my surrounds are small speakers with limited placement options. I am mostly interested in being able to measure in order to understand and optimize sub location and the mains/sub splice, plus also see about optimizing my center channel positioning. And also (down the road) possibly tweaking some room acoustics issues with some tasteful acoustic treatments.

I'm certainly not going to argue that, for someone who is interested, they should NOT try and pursue measurements / optimization on all channels. But for ME this is the most practical and efficient way to get started on the stuff that's most important.
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