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Wii HDMI?

post #1 of 98
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I know Ps3 and Xbox360 can be connected through HDMI for better quality. Can the Wii too?
post #2 of 98
nope. the wii does not have any digital outputs available.
post #3 of 98
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Originally Posted by sirtiger55 View Post

I know Ps3 and Xbox360 can be connected through HDMI for better quality. Can the Wii too?

That is not true. The 360 does not have a HDMI output. There are rumors that Microsoft will come out with a new 360 that has HDMI output, but there is no proof that they will yet.
post #4 of 98
Won't happen just because it's really not necessary for 480p.
post #5 of 98
Exactly, theirs no reason whatsoever for it
post #6 of 98
Eh, maybe it could still support even 480P a little better though? But probably wouldn't be worth their time.
post #7 of 98
Digital connections were designed to allow a "secure" method of transmitting HD signals among some other things. 480p isn't HD so there's no need for it.
post #8 of 98
If you do want HDMI to your display, you could purchase one of the many component-to-HDMI upconverting A/V receivers that are hitting the market. But like everyone's said, it's not really necessary for a clean transmission of 480p.
post #9 of 98
I was thinking of getting a new receiver because I need a new one, with HDMI upconversion(whatever that really means) as an added bonus. If Wii only outputs to 480p would it really be worth it?? Would there be a difference in quality??

From what i read here it seems like it wouldn't, I just wanna make sure before I buy it...
post #10 of 98
You may or may not notice a difference based on what receiver you choose. You would have to check in the receivers forums to see if anybody notices the upconverting capabilities of a particular reciever. You may be shelling out some dough for it though.
post #11 of 98
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Originally Posted by ogbuehi View Post

You may or may not notice a difference based on what receiver you choose. You would have to check in the receivers forums to see if anybody notices the upconverting capabilities of a particular reciever. You may be shelling out some dough for it though.

thanx for replying. Yeah my current receiver isn't too great so I was thinking of getting a $700 (clearance) receiver with "HDMI Upconversion"(whatever that REALLY means). I'm just wondering if its worth it, if not, I can still upgrade my receiver with a 300 dollar one.
post #12 of 98
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Originally Posted by Caliko View Post

thanx for replying. Yeah my current receiver isn't too great so I was thinking of getting a $700 (clearance) receiver with "HDMI Upconversion"(whatever that REALLY means). I'm just wondering if its worth it, if not, I can still upgrade my receiver with a 300 dollar one.

I'm pretty sure it means that your receiver can accept the various different kinds of video input connectors (e.g., composite RCA, S-video, component, HDMI) from multiple sources, and have those signals output from the receiver via HDMI out. IOW--no need for all those matching video cables for whatever corresponding output you need for your input sources...one HDMI output on your receiver will take care of your video source switching needs!
post #13 of 98
Also, there are two kinds of upconverting receivers. Cheaper ones (under $1,000) just transcode the signal to the HDMI output, keeping the original resolution (usually done as 480i for composite/S-video and anywhere from 480i-1080i on component), whereas slightly more expensive ones (getting up above $1,000) will actually upconvert the input signals to 720p, 1080i, or even 1080p. If you get a good receiver, this can make DVD and other standard resolution sources look better than if you just let your high definition TV do the upconverting. So if you can afford it, maybe look into one that can actually upconvert to 720p or 1080i (or even 1080p on the newest ones), as it might offer better quality than just feeding a 480i/p signal to your TV and letting it do the conversion.
post #14 of 98
Ahahaha. You'll likely have to wait for Nintendo's 10th generation console before they incorporate HDMI.

The damn thing doesn't even have optical out.
post #15 of 98
Any reason to believe that the upconverting circuitry in the receiver would be better than in the TV?
post #16 of 98
Over in the audio forum there are quite a few threads that talk about the scalars and deinterlacers in the newest AVR's. Aside from the Anthem, they are all rather poor scalars when compared to dedicated video processors. Of course you are asking for $2000 VP from a $1200 AVR.

The HDMI upconversion feature works well for eliminating cables from your AVR to your display. The scalar in most displays is a check-off item that most manufacturers don't seem to put much effort into (witness how poor SD signals look on HD displays). There is good news though, the Realta chip is gaining traction in the CE space so we may see inexpensive VP's, HD displays, and AVR's incorporate quality scaling in the next 18 months.

In the meantime I bought a Marantz SR-7100. It only does upconversion, but it does it well.
post #17 of 98
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Originally Posted by ogbuehi View Post

Digital connections were designed to allow a "secure" method of transmitting HD signals among some other things. 480p isn't HD so there's no need for it.

This is the only reason why I think its possible for Nintendo to do something with HDMI. Nintendo has always been big on cracking down on piracy.
post #18 of 98
No need for HDMI imo when not outputting HD.
post #19 of 98
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post #20 of 98
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Originally Posted by paddlefoot View Post

This is the only reason why I think its possible for Nintendo to do something with HDMI. Nintendo has always been big on cracking down on piracy.

Yeah, but that kind of "piracy" is a completely different thing. What Nintendo would be concerned about is copies of the data on the discs, not capturing the video stream from the console.
post #21 of 98
My best friend just got back from Japan with an HDMI cable for the wii. It was $20 US over there. He bought it at some HUGE store (like the equivalent of Nintendo store in NYC) and he says it works great!

I will ask him the name of the place (if he remembers) so that if they have a website or mail order, people can get a hold of them.

post #22 of 98
thats really funny since there has been no indication of the av out on the wii even outputting digital. i think someone is pulling your leg..
post #23 of 98
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Originally Posted by wired1 View Post

My best friend just got back from Japan with an HDMI cable for the wii. It was $20 US over there. He bought it at some HUGE store (like the equivalent of Nintendo store in NYC) and he says it works great!

I will ask him the name of the place (if he remembers) so that if they have a website or mail order, people can get a hold of them.


That doesn't exist.

Perhaps he is talking about a D-Terminal cable? Japanese televisions often use a d-terminal connection rather than component (different cable, same quality). Having lived in Japan myself, I've had to deal with these cables quite a bit.

The only possible method to achieve HDMI output on a Wii would be through the usage of a 3rd party converter device/scaler of some sort. This would function with any device, however, and certainly wouldn't be a Wii specific product. There would be absolutely no NEED for HDMI on the Wii either as it is limited to 480p and the typical video output is already fairly poor (completely unrelated to the quality of the cables).
post #24 of 98
is 480p the maximum video output from Wii? not even 720p?

how's the output on a 1080p panel?
post #25 of 98
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Originally Posted by tingshen View Post

is 480p the maximum video output from Wii? not even 720p?

how's the output on a 1080p panel?

Yes, 480p is the best it will do. As to how it looks on a 1080p screen, that depends on the scaling of the device you've got the Wii going in to (TV, receiver, etc.). Generally it looks decent, with a few titles looking not so great.
post #26 of 98
is the 480p based on 4:3 ratio or 16:9?
post #27 of 98
My sony vw200 plays the wii nicely. No complaints here. Same with my 360. Oh wait that uses HDMI and sends it out already at 1080p... Anyway, the wii looks fine on my 120.5" screen...
post #28 of 98
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Originally Posted by tingshen View Post

is the 480p based on 4:3 ratio or 16:9?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's based on the 16:9 ratio.
post #29 of 98
I love and own a Wii, but this is my only real gripe with it, I really wish Nintendo would have made this thing 720p capable. All the more reason to own the Wii along with another console I suppose.
post #30 of 98
Once you start cramming more technology into the Wii (HDMI outputs), it starts to the drive the price up. One of the biggest reasons that it's been such a big seller is that it's much cheaper than other consoles.
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