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post #31 of 98
much cheaper? i dun think it's cheap enough, give then fact that it doesn't have HDMI out and also not even a HD device not even 720p.....
post #32 of 98
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Originally Posted by tingshen View Post

is 480p the maximum video output from Wii? not even 720p?

how's the output on a 1080p panel?

jagged. I hooked my Wii up to my older Hitachi CRT HDTV projection and it was much better as I cn just have it display a 480p resolution instead of forcing it onto 1080p.

The Wii suffers on higher fixed resolution displays (on some games more than others). As long as the game is cartoony like Mario, it looks pretty good, when it enters the realm of realism like COD, real life racing games, it really shows it's graphical shortcomings.
post #33 of 98
not sure if Nintendo would come out a HD version.....I wanted to buy, but because of the lousy PQ and lack of US version of Wii Fit.....I'm holding back the purchase....
post #34 of 98
The only reason I am looking into an HDMI cable for the Wii is to limit the amount of input switching on the TV. If the Wii can be converted to HDMI, then ALL HDMI inputs to the TV through my receiver can go in through one HDMI input on the TV and therefore I wouldn't need to switch back and forth between inputs. I assume there would not be a quality DECREASE by using HDMI over Component or even Composite on the Wii. Right?

If so, is there a Wii HDMI cable converter out there?
post #35 of 98
a quick google search lead me to this one.

http://www.svideo.com/ypbpr2hdmi.html

No idea on the quality as I haven't read of anyone doing this.
post #36 of 98
Be careful with these products. Not only are they expensive but they may add noise to your signal at the HDMI end. The Gefen I tried was passable then there are a dozen bad ones.
post #37 of 98
I love my wii but as of late i gave up on Zelda:TP because it looked so horrible on my Samsung 4065F, the lo res textures just looked like puke. I bought Mario Party for the gf and i to play with some friends and they laughed at how awful it looked, they asked why it looked like a N64 game, most them quit playing since N64 was popular so i guess they were surprised at how awful the game looked. i had to pop in mass effect and COD4 and sold a couple of my buddies in to buying a x360. but yeah mario party wont even do 16:9. so it depends on the game, some games look descent on a HD panel but alot look like crap and their jeggy lo res textures cant keep up.
post #38 of 98
seems like I have to set up for 4:3 on 5084 if i were to get a wii......just like watching normal SD....sigh
post #39 of 98
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Originally Posted by wickedmpulse View Post

Once you start cramming more technology into the Wii (HDMI outputs), it starts to the drive the price up. One of the biggest reasons that it's been such a big seller is that it's much cheaper than other consoles.

The Wii is based on technology from like 2003 and that is being generous. It probably costs them $75 to make, and then maybe another $20 or $30 for the remote technology. They could have added some tech to at least keep it decent on an HDTV and still make a boatload of money.

I think it would've been nice if they added some simple upscaling chip (like the Xbox 360) which could at least convert the images to higher res in some way. The fact that Nintendo doesn't even require 16:9 is the worst, though.
post #40 of 98
16:9 really should be a requirement, but most games are supporting it now anyway, and very nearly all the "big" ones do. I just hate how most developers seem to take the attitude that since Wii games will never look as good as 360 of PS3 games, they don't even try, and turn in sub-PS2-level garbage. For my money, Mario Galaxy looks gorgeous and makes me forget all about the need for HD games, but the graphical quality there is unfortunately more the exception when it should be the rule. The Wii is at the very least a bit more powerful than the Gamecube, and that turned out stuff like RE4. Developers really need to start making more of the power that is there.

But yeah, the Wii really should be $199 max. That was the long-rumored price before the official MSRP was set, but then the PS3 was announced at its initial ridiculous price of $600 or whatever it was, and suddenly Nintendo --seeing how much breathing room they had -- comes out and officially sets the Wii at $250. Coincidence? Mmm-hmm. It'd be nice if the price came down a bit since PS3 and Xbox have, but the way Wiis are selling, that's not looking likely any time soon.

Anyway, like everyone else has said, HDMI would be totally useless on the Wii. Honestly, the only omissions from the Wii hardware that truly bug me are the optical audio and ethernet ports. Optical audio is available on $20 DVD players, and Nintendo couldn't afford to add it to the Wii? And I have to pay EXTRA to use a wired Internet connection? That's just stupid.
post #41 of 98
well, you can simply squeeze them back by not supporting them

eg, not buying wii until they slash price, not buying original games etc etc.....
post #42 of 98
"I think it would've been nice if they added some simple upscaling chip (like the Xbox 360) which could at least convert the images to higher res in some way. The fact that Nintendo doesn't even require 16:9 is the worst, though."

Cuz that chip you want isn't already in your HDTV upscaling 480p to whatever your native resolution is? Oh wait, it is.

360 games look better at 480p because they are still internally rendering at ~720p. In effect that spits out an image similar to 480p with 3xAA. Wii 480p upscaled to 720p or whatever before being passed on to your TV would look about the same as your TV doing the scaling internally.
post #43 of 98
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Originally Posted by tingshen View Post

not sure if Nintendo would come out a HD version.....I wanted to buy, but because of the lousy PQ and lack of US version of Wii Fit.....I'm holding back the purchase....

Same here. Had a Wii that I stayed overnight at BestBuy for at launch day, but it looked SO bad on my SXRD that I returned it. Even 720P would have been nice. Not asking for next gen graphics, just something not so pixelated.
post #44 of 98
perhaps we need a good value scaler that runs on REON chip for all SD input
post #45 of 98
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Originally Posted by DLPORLCD View Post

That is not true. The 360 does not have a HDMI output. There are rumors that Microsoft will come out with a new 360 that has HDMI output, but there is no proof that they will yet.

Dude, they came out with HDMI on the 360 like 8 months ago whenever the Elite was released.
post #46 of 98
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Originally Posted by Cygnus311 View Post

Dude, they came out with HDMI on the 360 like 8 months ago whenever the Elite was released.

the post is over a year old
post #47 of 98
Ha!
post #48 of 98
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Originally Posted by ThisOneKidMongo View Post

16:9 really should be a requirement, but most games are supporting it now anyway, and very nearly all the "big" ones do. I just hate how most developers seem to take the attitude that since Wii games will never look as good as 360 of PS3 games, they don't even try, and turn in sub-PS2-level garbage. For my money, Mario Galaxy looks gorgeous and makes me forget all about the need for HD games, but the graphical quality there is unfortunately more the exception when it should be the rule. The Wii is at the very least a bit more powerful than the Gamecube, and that turned out stuff like RE4. Developers really need to start making more of the power that is there.

Yeah I would agree with you on that. Developers aren't taking of the power that is actually available. Super Mario Galaxy looks quite good. The Harry Potter game I got for my son looks terrible. I've downloaded the demos on both the 360 and the PS3 which are full screen 16:9 and it's like night and day compared to the Wii. The Wii version looks like a poorly ported PS2 game and doesn't even go full screen on 16:9. It looks almost like they took a 4:3 image and stretched it horizontally to cover about 80% of the screen while in widescreen mode. Very shoddy job by EA on that one cause I know that the Wii can do better. I was a bit disappointed with Mario Party 8 as well. When you are in the board game and mini-games, it reverts back to 4:3.
post #49 of 98
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Originally Posted by tingshen View Post

perhaps we need a good value scaler that runs on REON chip for all SD input

Has anyone tried Wii through REON?? I LOVE the Wii far more than 360 and PS3 but I have the same complaint as yall. I was thinking of going as far as buying an Onkyo SR875 to try out the upscaling(need a receiver upgrade anyway). but is it really worth it??
post #50 of 98
I've been curious about the Wii through Reon, such as in the Onkyo 875, and nearly bought one just to satisfy my curiosity. Ultimately though, I doubt it would make a giant difference. Your mileage might vary depending on what particular display you're using, but I think too many people expect scalers to work miracles.
post #51 of 98
Don't want to be a graphic-wh*re but some games do look very pixelize on my 720p LCD projector and 1080p LCD flat panel (e.g. Zelda... don't flame me pls! :P ). On the other hand Mario Galaxy looks really good, so as RE: Umbrella Chronicle. Also, you don't need hi-res. graphics to enjoy games like Rayman, Wariowares, Wii Sports, etc. and all of those VC games esp. really old gen. ones from the NES, PC-Engine era.
post #52 of 98
maybe you guys shall post some screen captures for the games to show how bad a wii looks like.....especially on full HD panel. But then the scaler of the TV could make wonder sometimes.....
post #53 of 98
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Originally Posted by DLPORLCD View Post

That is not true. The 360 does not have a HDMI output. There are rumors that Microsoft will come out with a new 360 that has HDMI output, but there is no proof that they will yet.

That 360 Elite is already out and has been out since April 2007. It has an HDMI port and HDMI cable in the box.
post #54 of 98
Way to respond to a post from Jan 2007, Peptic! Hmm, that seems to be 3 months before the Elite that you were talking about...

What's especially funny is that Cygnus did the same thing at post #45. One might recommend actually reading the thread that you want to participate in.
post #55 of 98
They could just get a component to HDMI adaptor...
post #56 of 98
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

They could just get a component to HDMI adaptor...


Otherwise known as a computer...

/I actually chuckled at your post
post #57 of 98
I'm actually using a component > hdmi adaptor. Very similar to the one posted above, but I got it off ebay for $70. Not impressed at all. I don't want any increase in picture quality, and I don't want increased resolution - I just want it in HDMI. I've got a ceiling-mount projector with HDMI (and hdmi only) run to it through the ceiling. To get component, I'd have to either run it across the outside of the ceiling, or tear up & repair sheetrock - which, since ALL my other components (dish, ps3, cpu, and hd-dvd) have HDMI outputs, I'd be doing that *just* for the wii.

Unfortunately, the converter I have stinks. Everything is too bright, so that near-white and true white are "compressed" to the point that there's no difference. So, for example, the borders on the wii main menu are almost completely invisible.

I've tried just stringing up component cables and it works fine like that, so the converter is introducing the problem.

I'm sure there are better ones, but since they're nearly useless (except in instances like mine), nobody uses them - and therefore, there are no reviews - so I don't know how to figure out if it will suck like my current one, or if it'll actually look good

Oh, and just to top off the suckage, it doesn't seem to support 480i. No big deal since I have it on 480p, but my son accidentally switched it to 480i the other day, and after spending an hour trying to figure out what was wrong, I then had to string up my component cables again to get a picture so I could change it back to 480p. Pretty annoyed with this piece of junk converter .....
post #58 of 98
Defiance, I'm in a very similar situation. I need HDMI just for the connection sake. I have the component cable, and if I hook it up direct it works great, but I'd love to find a way to convert the connecting end to use HDMI. Have you found any more info on a better converter? Can you please keep me in the loop if you find anything that works? I'm dying to get this resolved!

Thanks!!
post #59 of 98
Ok, why do you all wanna connect your wii HDMI, when component is the best is can do anyway, 480P is the best you are getting....Maybe im missing something but I'm not seeing a need to connect your wii HDMI, doesnt make sense.
post #60 of 98
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Originally Posted by kreepy View Post

Ok, why do you all wanna connect your wii HDMI, when component is the best is can do anyway, 480P is the best you are getting....Maybe im missing something but I'm not seeing a need to connect your wii HDMI, doesnt make sense.

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Originally Posted by defiancecp View Post

I've got a ceiling-mount projector with HDMI (and hdmi only) run to it through the ceiling. To get component, I'd have to either run it across the outside of the ceiling, or tear up & repair sheetrock - which, since ALL my other components (dish, ps3, cpu, and hd-dvd) have HDMI outputs, I'd be doing that *just* for the wii.

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Originally Posted by jeremygeek View Post

Defiance, I'm in a very similar situation. I need HDMI just for the connection sake.

Your question is quite directly answered in multiple posts directly before yours. Perhaps you should read them.
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