Wii HDMI? - Page 3

People like me wish to minimize cabling as much as possible. The best way I see this with the Wii is to run component to an upscaling receiver that has HDMI outputs.

Yeah, that would definitely work... just a lot of investment

For reference, the unit I tried (that I recommend avoiding at all costs!)

http://www.ce-link.com/show.asp?id=253

i have exactly the same problem right now, basically I have to decide now if investing in a component cable extension (about 35ft) to go from the avr to the projector through the wall all the way to the ceiling (the good thing is I am building my home theater at this point so i am still on time to do so), or should I just get a component to hdmi converter and minimize cabling? but has any body seen any reviews on the ones out there? they all have upconversion and I am afraid they use a crappy chip which would yield results similar to the ones defiancecp got... any recommendations? should i just run that component extension ? ... i am dissapointed with the wii not being above 480p, but even more dissapointed I have to run a separate set of cables to the projector in the ceiling JUST for it... that sucks!
maybe i should just switch my HK avr and go for a new upconverting HDMI unit... time to upgrade? ... any recommendations?

thanks guys!

It's not THAT much cheaper after buying the additional controller, component cables etc.. still it is cheaper just not by the huge margin people tend to think. As for HD, I would have payed an extra $100. for 720p at least.

I'd pay a pretty hefty premium for a Wii with HDMI, optical and 1080p scaling (I'd be perfectly happy with 480p over HDMI though). However Nintendo seems to have very little interest in appealing to A/V enthusiasts.

So, the majority of Nintendo Wii owners are probably hooked to the older CRT's? That would explain why they really don't care that much, after spending so much time on this forums I guess I just kind of assume that alot of people are buying HDTV's. I'm probably wrong though.

Well, the only survey of Wii owners' display types that I know of took place on the Wii itself, via the "Everybody Votes" channel. If I remember right the results were that well over 50% of voters had their Wiis connected to an HDTV. Obviously this should be taken with a grain of salt, given that who actually votes on the Everybody Votes channel, but if you think about it, hardcore AV types are probably the least likely to vote on that clearly casual/family-oriented channel so the real percentage is probably higher if anything.

Of course, there's always reports popping up about the decent chunk of HDTV owners who not only aren't viewing HD content on their sets but don't even realize it, so the Wii may dovetail nicely into those statistics.

I doubt it, there are plenty of well-off families with a nice HD set that get a Wii for the kids. Also, remember that you can drag as many Miis as you want when you vote, so a family of five could be putting five votes for HDTV on there when it's really only one household.

True, but even if you account for say, a 30% margin of error, that still leaves you with a much larger percentage than what most people seem to believe, which is that the Wii-HDTV crossover only occurs in like, one household in Nevada.

Also, as a former closet Everybody Votes voter, I can attest to the stunning scientific accuracy, generally speaking, of the polling results. I mean, it's well known that the majority of Guatemalens, if given the choice, would travel forward in time rather than back, just as chocolate is about 70% more delicious than peanut butter. It's just science.

Speaking of Everybody Votes, I made a few submissions hoping my questions would get asked. I asked plenty of "real" questions, then stuck one inane one to see if they'd pick it. I've since lost my internet connection. So, have you been asked "How many holes are in your shirt buttons?" yet? The people demand to know!

edit: Also, chocolate won over peanut butter?! Blasphemy!

This is a no-brainer to me. Since you are still in the building phase, for sure run a set of component cables. It's not much money, and can really come in handy. It keeps your options open. I ran an HDMI, Component, and Composite between my equipment and the projector. I actually even used the composite once when the kids needed to watch a movie on the big screen that was on a tape. Nothing like VCR quality at 106"

I guess I don't know much about the component to HDMI converter you mentioned, but my experience says you should run more than you'll think you'll need. When I built my basement theater I though I would get by with component, HDMI, and an upconverting receiver (mine upconverts from composite/s-video to component). But shortly thereafter I built an HTPC and for over a year I had a VGA cable running across the floor of my basement. Recently I found an HDMI solution that works for my HTPC so I've been able to do without the VGA cable. If I were starting over today I'd run component, HDMI, and VGA. The VGA cable is relatively cheap (check Newegg).

the biggest issue is not that the wii does not have an HDMI cable but that it's native video output is an analog signal. Sure you can convert it to a digital signal but this does not improve the picture at all.

The Gamecube on the other hand had native digital out and making an HDMI or DVI cable for it WOULD be beneficial as you wouldn't lose any of the digital information.

The sad thing is the only cable nintendo released to use this port was a component ANALOG cable, and never released a digital cable. Furthermore the port had digital audio out too which Nintendo never provided any cable for although several people have made homebrew converters to get access to the digital audio coming out from the system to something like fiber optic digital audio.

I'm waiting on the Gefen converter to show up. This is what I am going to be using: http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=4425

I had the same issue since I had no component cable runs for my projector, so I had to convert to HDMI as I did not want to rip up my flooring to rerun wires.

Sadly, you won't see HDMI untill the Wii 2.

I wouldn't be surpised to not even see HDMI in Wii 2. I hope they at least have an optical audio output. There was no excuse for the Wii not to have that.

I stumbled on this thread while researching this exact issue. I would add that there is a reason to have an HDMI output option for the Wii despite not supporting any of the higher resolutions. Many high end TV's are now starting to ditch most of their older component and composite connections in favor of a boat load of HDMI connections. This is why I am now looking -- the TV I am thinking of getting has 4 HDMI connections and only 1 shared component/composite input (which I need for an old VCR we still use for our library of kids tapes). It may be the extrmee example but across the board the sets I have been researching have reduced the # of component/composite inputs.

HDMI is becoming the defacto universal input for TV's because it can handle every resolution and combines video/audio into one simple cable, and works for PC's too.

True, although I doubt a complete elimination of composite/component....even S-video... on modern TVs occurs any time soon. The days of an HD display having a large bank of component inputs, however, is done.

S-video seems to be going first. About half of the sets I am looking at now have NO s-video at all. The new trend is shared combo component/composite that can accept one or the other in the same input.

About the only reason to have S-Video these days is to accomodate various camcorder outputs. But even those are going away. Hell, I have a cheapo pocket camcorder that records to SD card, does 720p HD decently & uses a mini HDMI out or compostive to send it to a display. My 3 yr old HD RPTV has 2 S-video in, but the little HD LCD panel in my daughter's room lacks S-Video completely.

Yeah, but what about all the legacy equipment? There are still more VHS tapes in the world than DVD's (not current sales but total cumulative inventory). We still have a VCR to play our old tapes that has S-video as its best connection (veruss straight composite). Most people can't afford nor would they want to replace all these tapes -- ours is mostly kids shows the kids will grow out of in a few years. We even have an old laserdisc player too, and s-video is its best connection. Progress is great and all, by I hope the industry doesn't go all Apple on us and abandon support for everything older too soon...

If such abandonment acts as a cost cutting feature...well, then expect the industry as a whole to do so - unfortunate as it is. With our main RPTV display, we have enough legacy inputs for VHS, LD, older game systems (although Wii Virtual Console has mostly eliminated the need to dig out any old NES, SNES, etc games), etc as well as a nice compliment of components & some HDMI.

But once the time comes for a new display....yeah, I imagine HDMI ins are mostly all we'll see on that.

When

Like several others, I have a problem with connection and a ceiling mounting projector. I've seen multiple places to purchase component to HDMI converters, but don't know which one to try purchase. I've only see comments on one earlier, but here is a list of ones I've found... any comments? I really don't want to shell out $199 for a converter box for the Wii, that's almost as much as I paid for it, but I also know you get what you pay for many times.............

http://www.a1components.com/itemdisp...spx?item=12331

http://sewelldirect.com/Apogee-RGB-C...&cvsfp=SW-9225

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/component-...mi-scaler.html

http://www.svideo.com/ypbprhdmi.html

http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=4425



Thanks!

no just 480p through a component cable

Waterbird,

I purchased a converter that looks very similar to the one you posted:

sewelldirect.com/Apogee-RGB-Component-to-HDMI-Converter_specs.asp?source=froogle&utm_source=Froogle&utm_medium=cse&cvsfa=1306&cvsfe=2&cvsfp=SW-9225

I'm waiting for it to come in the mail, then I will post if there is any significant quality reduction in the video.

When I put drywall over my 70's style brick fireplace, I only ran 3 HDMI connections and my surround sound cables to the TV over the fireplace. i didn't plan on running any non-HD sources until I won the Wii at a company Christmas party. Unfortunately my Pioneer 819 receiver doesn't up convert.

(BTW, I know this is an old post, but it maybe helpful to people in the future)

Like others in this post, I need to convert my Wii's output purely for the sake of connectivity. (My Wii is the only thing in my system still using legacy connectors.) Well, a solution now exists. It seems to be well-reviewed and costs less than $40.

http://www.neoya.com/shop/wii/hdmi/wii2hdmi

Huh... let us know how that works out. While I'm using my receiver to upscale the Wii's component output and connect that to the TV with HDMI, I wouldn't mind getting rid of the five connections to the receiver and replacing them with one connection.

Here's a CNET review.

http://reviews.cnet.com/game-accesso...ml?tag=rvwBody

People high up in Nintendo have already stated that HD wouldn't be ignored in a Wii successor, which all but guarantees it will have a HDMI input as things shift away from component.

Only problem with that is it took over three years to come out with a second gen. So how long will it be before we see the next one?