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post #121 of 458
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Originally Posted by artinhawaii View Post

Thank you, Pirlo

I was waiting for somebody with a 1.0 gain screen since it is closer to my laminate screen in value.

I'll be trying out your settings this week for sure. Did you "eyeball" your adjustments with DVE or AVIA or was it an ISF calibration?

I have used avia's calibration dvd.
post #122 of 458
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Originally Posted by voicecoils View Post

More a "TIP" then a "TWEAK", but here's some info I posted in another post. The First tip gives a handy hidden menu. The second provides access to the "Service menu":

Z5 Hidden Menus - what I know so far

Checking Lamp time: This menu shows how many hours the projector has been on and how many hours the lamp has been in "Normal" mode and how many hours in "Eco" mode.

How to Access it: Press and hold the POWER ON/STAND-BY button on the remote for more then 20 seconds. The screen will pop up briefly.

Service Adjustment Menu: This menu allows you to adjust the service data.

How to Access it: Press and hold the MENU button on the remote for 20 seconds. A "S" will appear on the screen. Now press and hold the "SCREEN" button on the remote for 3 seconds. You are now in the service mode. To exit press the POWER ON/STAND-BY.

WARNING: The OK, MENU, and pointer buttons all change service data values. Don't press them unless you know what you are doing or record the original values.

Anybody could give me the default value in Service Ajust menu because I made a change by error and I want put the good one value. Please Help me!!!
post #123 of 458
My Z5 has developed a reddish tinge in the bottom right hand corner. It's noticeable when displaying bright whites or PLUGE patterns...even the Panel adjustment pattern shows it. Cleaning the panels has not helped. I've reset to factory defaults, again no dice. The unit only has about 50 hours on it. Looks like it's time to activate that 4 year warranty. Sanyo better not give me any crap.
post #124 of 458
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Originally Posted by jim.vaccaro View Post

My Z5 has developed a reddish tinge in the bottom right hand corner. It's noticeable when displaying bright whites or PLUGE patterns...even the Panel adjustment pattern shows it. Cleaning the panels has not helped. I've reset to factory defaults, again no dice. The unit only has about 50 hours on it. Looks like it's time to activate that 4 year warranty. Sanyo better not give me any crap.


Just sent mine to Sanyo last week with a similar issue. My Z5 had a slight red haze on the left side of the screen and could be detected in any light colored scene, ie. sand looked reddish on left side normal on right, football field different color green on left normal on right. The technician claimed it was a result of the bulb changing with time ( mine has 500hrs). I spoke with the service manager an they agreed to send a new bulb. So far the uniformity is consistent across the screen with the new bulb. We'll see what happens with a few hours on it. I'm having my projector ISF calibrated Wednesday by Randy Tomlinson (Atlanta) so I hope I'm not waisting my money on a uniformity problem that may redevelop.

Please post your experience with Sanyo, it will be interesting to see what they say.
post #125 of 458
That's good info, thanks! I hope it's just the bulb.
post #126 of 458
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Originally Posted by furiousmen View Post

Anybody could give me the default value in Service Ajust menu because I made a change by error and I want put the good one value. Please Help me!!!


Nobody could give me the default parameters???
post #127 of 458
any opinions on fan noise in cieling mode?
post #128 of 458
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Originally Posted by artinhawaii View Post

It's a while that I had optics in school. The fascinating aspect of this is that one really shouldn't use the zoom then unless utterly needed. A natural larger screen would still be more effective than a smaller screen plus a use of the zoom.

A clear case of argument for a big screen considering all possible options. I like it.

I had totally missed this important aspect of the lenses in a projector. My brain is not what it used to be...


You have to keep in mind that while full wide will give the brightest image for a given screen size, it will also introduce barrel distortion (full telephoto will introduce pin cushion effect)... so ideally you will want to set it at about half way, to eliminate both problems...
post #129 of 458
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Originally Posted by furiousmen View Post

Nobody could give me the default parameters???


Do you happen to know which values you changed in the service menu? The Z5 service manual has 10 pages of initial service menu settings.
post #130 of 458
I can't seem to calibrate my Z5 with the DVE using the basic adjustments pluges... when i use the colour filters i can't get the boxes to blend into the background.... am I using the wrong pluges? same with the brightness and constrast screens... i'm confused at which ones to use... they talk a lot about crt direct view tv's... any help would be greatly appreciated!
post #131 of 458
Hi All,

Seriously considering a Z-5.

If I am understanding the figures on projector central calculator, I can get over 100 inch diagonal with just under a 12 foot throw.

Can anyone tell me if I have this correct?

Thanks
post #132 of 458
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Originally Posted by godawg View Post

Do you happen to know which values you changed in the service menu? The Z5 service manual has 10 pages of initial service menu settings.


I have DV21 on it right now, jus say to me what you have in the first page. If i reset to manufactory setting, it will fix?
post #133 of 458
Anyone else have a noisy bulb?

Actually my original bulb was (still is) OK --- it whines for a minute or so while warming up but then goes almost silent. There's still a very faint high-pitched sound but you have to really get close to hear it and I can live with that.

Then I tried out my free bulb to make sure it was OK and things were different. The first few hours it was quiet but has gradually got louder over about 18 hours. The whine is noticable during quiet scenes in a movie, so I put back the original and it's much better. That's why I'm convinced it's the bulb and not something in the PJ itself making the noise.

So I'll probably see if I can get this bulb replaced (although naturally I've had it over 90 days by now!), but I wonder how many others have had noisy bulbs (with any PJ, not just a Z5), and are there any tricks to quietening them down?
post #134 of 458
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Originally Posted by mgh24 View Post

Hi All,

Seriously considering a Z-5.

If I am understanding the figures on projector central calculator, I can get over 100 inch diagonal with just under a 12 foot throw.

Can anyone tell me if I have this correct?

Thanks

Hi, yes, I am projecting a 109" diagonal screen with an 11ft throw distance.
post #135 of 458
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Originally Posted by godawg View Post

-60-
Group: 0 ADV7403
0 SOG_SYNC_LEV 11/11/11/11/11/11/11 0 - 31 PC/480i/575i/480p/575p/720p/1080i
Group: 3 L3E06150/1060P0A (Panel Driver)
0 G_LCCOM 300 0 - 511 ✻ G Common center adjustment
1 B_LCCOM 300 0 - 511 ✻ B Common center adjustment
2 R_LCCOM 300 0 - 511 ✻ R Common center adjustment
3 G_LCCOM_GAIN 191 0 - 255 G Signal Gain
4 B_LCCOM_GAIN 191 0 - 255 B Signal Gain
5 R_LCCOM_GAIN 191 0 - 255 R Signal Gain
6 G_LCCOM_BRIGHT 0 0 - 255 G Signal Bright
7 B_LCCOM_BRIGHT 0 0 - 255 B Signal Bright
8 R_LCCOM_BRIGHT 0 0 - 255 R Signal Bright
9 G_VIDEO_CENTER 18 0 - 63 G Video Center
10 B_VIDEO_CENTER 18 0 - 63 B Video Center
11 R_VIDEO_CENTER 18 0 - 63 R Video Center
12 R_ENBX_PW 12 0 - 255 R ENBX pulse width
13 G_ENBX_PW 12 0 - 255 G ENBX pulse width
14 B_ENBX_PW 12 0 - 255 B ENBX pulse width
15 R_DXIN 2 0 - 255 R DXIN Delay
16 G_DXIN 2 0 - 255 G DXIN Delay
17 B_DXIN 2 0 - 255 B DXIN Delay
18 R_CLXIN 2 0 - 255 R CLXIN Delay
19 G_CLXIN 2 0 - 255 G CLXIN Delay
20 B_CLXIN 2 0 - 255 B CLXIN Delay
21 R_ENBX1IN 14 0 - 255 R ENBX1IN Delay
22 G_ENBX1IN 14 0 - 255 G ENBX1IN Delay
23 B_ENBX1IN 14 0 - 255 B ENBX1IN Delay
Group: 4 L3E07110K0A (Digital Gamma)
0 G_Contrast 512/512/512 360 - 535
1 B_Contrast 512/512/512 360 - 535 PureCinema/BrilliantCinema&CreativeCinema&Natural&Living/Dynamic&Vivid
2 R_Contrast 512/512/512 360 - 535
3 G_Bright 0/0/0 0 - 1023
4 B_Bright 0/0/0 0 - 1023
5 R_Bright 0/0/0 0 - 1023
6 G_Gamma_Shift 0/0/0 -512 - 511 ✻ Panel luminance adjustment
7 B_Gamma_Shift 0/0/0 -512 - 511 ✻ White balance adjustment [b]
8 R_Gamma_Shift 0/0/0 -512 - 511 ✻ White balance adjustment [R]
9 R_REF_H 1023 0 - 1023
10 R_REF_L 336 0 - 1023
11 G_REF_H 1023 0 - 1023
12 G_REF_L 336 0 - 1023
13 B_REF_H 1023 0 - 1023
14 B_REF_L 336 0 - 1023
15 DXOUTR 214 0 - 1023
16 DXOUTG 214 0 - 1023
17 DXOUTB 214 0 - 1023
18 ENBX_R 0 0 - 127
19 ENBX_G 0 0 - 127
20 ENBX_B 0 0 - 127
21 H_CHANGE_Pos 6 0 - 255
22 SH_BASE_Pos 0 0 - 1
23 R_SH_Pos 10 0 - 15
24 G_SH_Pos 10 0 - 15
25 B_SH_Pos 10 0 - 15
26 NRG_Pos 51 0 - 127
27 NRG_Width 48 0 - 255
28 OSD_Pos 2 0 - 3
29 OSD_Pat 0 0 - 7
30 Gamma_Ctrl 1 0 - 1
31 REF_GATE_Pos 1 0 - 1023
32 REF_GATE_Width 180 0 - 1023
33 R_BASE_Pos 6 0 - 15
34 G_BASE_Pos 6 0 - 15
35 B_BASE_Pos 6 0 - 15
36 RGB_ADJUST 0 0 - 7
37 RGB_ADJLEV 0 0 - 1023
38 LINE_R0 8 0 - 255
39 LINE_R1 4 0 - 255
40 LINE_R2 2 0 - 255
41 LINE_R3 0 0 - 255
42 LINE_R4 0 0 - 255
43 LINE_G0 8 0 - 255
44 LINE_G1 4 0 - 255
45 LINE_G2 2 0 - 255
46 LINE_G3 0 0 - 255
Electrical Adjustments
● Service Adjustment Data Table These initial values are the reference data written from the CPU
ROM to memory IC when replaced new memory IC. The adjustment
items indicated with ✻ are required to readjust following
to the Electrical adjustments. Other items should be used with
the initial data value.
No. Adjustment Item Initial Value Range Input source / Description

Ok thank's, I think a just change the page with button menu, probably I did not made any change, I justed switched the page when a pressed a menu button.
post #136 of 458
I had my Z5 ISF calibrated yesterday. 1.0 gain screen, Dark green walls, white ceiling. Ceiling mounted, 15'6" throw, 92" screen.

Service Menu Adjustments


Green Contrast 390
Blue Contrast 371
Red Contrast 512
Green Bright 33
Blue Bright 4
Red Bright 0
Blue Gamma Shift 3
Red Gamma Shift 3

Input Settings

User 1 X-Box 360 (VGA)

Brightness -17
Contrast +19
Color 0
Lamp eco
Color Temp User
Progressive L1
Lens iris -30
Sharpness +7
Overscan +10

User 2 D*HR20-700 (Component)

Brightness +2
Contrast +4
Color +7
Lamp eco
Color Temp User
Progressive L1
Lens Iris -30
Sharpness 0
Overscan 0

User 3 Samsung Blu-Ray (HDMI)

Brightness +2
Contrast +3
Color +10
Lamp eco
Progressive L1
Lens Iris -30
Sharpness 0
post #137 of 458
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Originally Posted by stickyman View Post

I can't seem to calibrate my Z5 with the DVE using the basic adjustments pluges... when i use the colour filters i can't get the boxes to blend into the background.... am I using the wrong pluges? same with the brightness and constrast screens... i'm confused at which ones to use... they talk a lot about crt direct view tv's... any help would be greatly appreciated!

Try changing your color list in the advanced menu.
post #138 of 458
I am proud to say that I just purchased a Z5. It will be used as a back up should I ever need one but mainly as my outdoor theater pj! And I am thinking about using it for video games as well. After reading Art's review plus the many of happy owners in this thread I purchased with confidence. I can't go with a DLP because my Wife has the RBE issue (very badly). In fact the pj I was going to use is the Optoma DV10 (which now I have to sell). Atleast the Sanyo is HD. Playing HD DVD or Blu ray on it will look amazing! Thanks for helping me decide...
post #139 of 458
Can anyone confirm that the service menu location for adjusting minimum fan speeds is the same on the Z5 as they are on the Z4? After a day with a Z5, the auto-faster fan speed (louder) when ceiling mounted is really disappointing. I just switched out a Z3 and the added noise of the newer (supposed to actually be quieter) model has got me bummed.

Thanks in advance.

Dan
post #140 of 458
Nevermind. I answered my own question. Yes. The same service menu adjustment works for the Z5. For those that didn't read it in the Z4 thread, you can lower the fans' minimum speeds so you don't get the fan noise penalty for having it ceiling mounted. Keep in mind that if your mount keeps your PJ flush or "close to" the ceiling, you may be better off leaving the settings the way they are. In other words, make the adjustments at your own risk....

I was able to lower my minimum fan speeds and still maintain good temps after 3 hours + of use. This brought the PJ sound level down from annoying to barely audible.

Service menu values: Group 102, Item Number 0, set the Data Value to 1 for "ceiling" then,

Item Number 50 - Data Value changed from 1680 to 1185
Item Number 52 - Data Value changed from 2340 to 1200

These are the figures I settled on, yours may be different.

These are for the low lamp setting. I did find that if you use lamp setting of A2, you use Item numbers 77 and 79 instead of 50 and 52.

Keep an eye on the 3 temperature readings. According to the Z4 thread, "A" should be less than 26, "B" should be less than 50, and "C" should be less than 40. If your readings go much higher than these, the fans are gonna kick up higher anyway so there's no point in lowering the minimums.

For those that missed it earlier in this thread, to get into the service menu, press and hold Menu until an "S" appears, then press Screen until the service menu appears. Within the service menu, pressing Menu will change the group, up and down to change the Item Number, left and right to change Data Values, Power to exit the menu.

Now I'm happy again.....Once again, at your own risk....

Dan
post #141 of 458
It seems there are a lot less issues with the Z5 compared to the new Panny... with the new price drop, ($1299 after $200 rebate...) I'm going to ante up the extra $ from the HD100u and go for it.... I'll be tracking this thread in the next few weeks as I put in my theater. I've been waiting for several years to plunk down the cash for my first projector... Now, I'm going to do it......(You all agree that I SHOULD buy a projector, right... )
post #142 of 458
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Originally Posted by Basement Dude View Post

It seems there are a lot less issues with the Z5 compared to the new Panny... with the new price drop, ($1299 after $200 rebate...) I'm going to ante up the extra $ from the HD100u and go for it.... I'll be tracking this thread in the next few weeks as I put in my theater. I've been waiting for several years to plunk down the cash for my first projector... Now, I'm going to do it......(You all agree that I SHOULD buy a projector, right... )


You can do a bit better than that, just look for the forum sponser whose initials stand for V ery/A nxious (to get a good deal)!
post #143 of 458
Oops.. I mean $1295 after rebate... I was off by $4.
post #144 of 458
Try $1195! (Hint - 2 rebates!)
post #145 of 458
This pj may be the "best kept secret" in this price range...
post #146 of 458
Pool boy... you have a PM
post #147 of 458
If these rebates pan out then this PJ is a real bargain! I may have to call to confirm, but it sure seems legit!
post #148 of 458
They do pan out. I just did it. They also give you the option of a free 6.0 megapixel camera with 200.00 back or 300.00 without the camera... This is a great deal!
post #149 of 458
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Originally Posted by DKaps View Post

Keep an eye on the 3 temperature readings. According to the Z4 thread, "A" should be less than 26, "B" should be less than 50, and "C" should be less than 40. If your readings go much higher than these, the fans are gonna kick up higher anyway so there's no point in lowering the minimums.

For those that missed it earlier in this thread, to get into the service menu, press and hold Menu until an "S" appears, then press Screen until the service menu appears. Within the service menu, pressing Menu will change the group, up and down to change the Item Number, left and right to change Data Values, Power to exit the menu.

Now I'm happy again.....Once again, at your own risk....

Dan

I've just bought a Z5, and the only niggle so far has been the default fan speeds. It just seemed to ramp up to maximum ('natural' setting, with eco bulb), and was pretty loud. The only way I could solve it has been through changing the service menu setting to Manual Fan Control, and then putting the Voltage for all 4 fans to 60. Temps still seem good (within limits stated here after 3 hours).

It's weird because on first entering the Service Menu, the fans all decreased straight away...this is how I realised I had an issue. Much closer to the 22db stated now.

If any service menu experts here know of a better way for me to do this rather than manual control, I'd like to hear from them. The way it is at the moment won't (I guess), take into account room temperature etc.

I used the Z4 service guide for reference doing this, but it seems in this respect fairly similar to the Z5.

--
Jon
post #150 of 458
Hey guys what a great thread, fantastic info and I am looking at getting the Z5. However, I watch a lot of compressed DVDs since I am trying to convert my library of DVDs on my hard drives. I watch DVDs as well so it is not all TV. Just wondering what peoples experience is with the Z5 and compressed dvds/tv shows etc.. Does anyone currently do this kind of setup with that type of media? I am looking for how the quality is, if there are a lot of pixels vs a RPTV or what have you. Thanks for your help if you can =).
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