Originally Posted by Kosty
Just to add.
These new DVD releases look fantastic upconverted on my HD XA2.
They look better than broadcast cable or sat HD.
Now I can tell, that they are are smidgen below HD DVD or Blu-ray, but with a new restored anamorphic DVD release, my HD XA2 does an amazing job.
I'm sure that people with other HD DVD or Blu-ray players that upconvert, they are experiencing tthe same thing.
Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin
Even broadcast cable or sat HD look better than upconverted SD DVD, no matter how good you think your XA2 is, unless you have some really bad overly compressed HD. And even if that is the case, to say that HD-DVD or Blu-ray is only a "smidgen" better than upconverted SD DVD from your XA2 is beyond ridiculous.
If you really feel that way, why bother getting into either of the new HD disc formats....especially at this stage of the game?
Bottom line: there is NO COMPARISON between the PQ of Blu-ray or HD-DVD and upconverted SD DVD. A "smidgen"? Come on!
Bravo! I am surprised with some of the crazy things that get posted on here. It is nice to see someone call a poster out when warrented.
I have seen the oppos, the xa2, and the ps3 upconvert SD DVD. All are much better than the video quality of SD DVD player that I have used in the last several years, but none are even close to HD cable, and it is another step up to Blu-ray quality.
HD video quality is much better than the best of upconverted SD DVD video quality.
Upconversion may be good enough for Kosty, but it is not anywhere good enough for most of us
Originally Posted by dad1153
If it's between upconversion on my HD-DVD gear or wasting $500+ for a Blu-ray player just to watch Sony, Fox and Disney movies in HD I'm sooooo going to upconvert.
Thats the point.
I stated HD DVD and Blu-ray are better than upconverted SD DVD, but properly done upconverted DVD is good enough for most people to make it hard to see the difference.
I have have been a bit over the mark, in implying upconverted DVD always looked better, but in many cases in can look better or at least just as good. And if its a DVD that's on your shelf, ready to watch, then good upconversion makes it worth watching again, because its ready to go.
HD DVD also has not been afraid to advertsise and market "and it makes your existing DVDs look better", as part of its positioning. And watching your existing DVD upconverted costs nothing for user, and it may explain a bit current sales if HD DVD and Blu-ray disc prices are too high. People may be watching again their older DVD while waiting for prices to drop.
I plan to get a Blu-ray player in the future and I won't buy a DVD if it is out or coming out on Blu-ray, but I'm sure not going to double dip now or jump into buying a Blu-ray player now when I have hundreds of HD DVDs to watch now and my existing DVD library looks very very good upconverted.
I can tell the differerence between upconverted and HD, but with my HD XA2, its very close if not better than most of my cable and sat HD, and it nevere macroblocks or is chopped out of its OAR to fit a 16:9 screen, And its on my shelf, ready to watch.
My comment was in context of why HD sales may be slow to new owners, and was speculation that many new owners, like myself,may be re-watching their existing libraries on their HD DVD or Blu-ray players while waiting for retail prices to drop and retail shelf space to increase before buying new HD movies.
In short, I surmised that many people, like me, are enjoying their initial HD DVD and Blu-ray purchases and upconverted content for now, until prices drop.
Also, newer anamorphic or Superbit releases look better than old letterbox DVDs.
I would also suggest you demo a HD XA2 or newer Blu-ray player before you compare them to a HD Lite sat broadcast.
I like DISH and DIRECTV HD, but I'm surprised what REALTA HQV upconversion can do with a DVD.