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Best 65" or better HDTV?

post #1 of 36
Thread Starter 
I'm looking to replace my old Toshiba 65h80.
I want the best possible TV, 65" minimum. Price isn't important.

Possibilities:
Runco XP-65DHD
Vidikron VP-6500VHD
Fujutsu Aviamo 1080p
wait for Pioneer to come out with their new 1080p Elite plasma this summer of fall and hope that Panny or somebody else comes out with a 65" version.
Panasonic TH-65PF9UK and get a good scaler.
LG-71PY1M
go LCD and buy Sharp AQUOS LC-65D90U

others?

A front projector is out of the question because this will be in my family room. It's going to replace a CRT RP so I don't care how thin the TV is, just want the best pic for standard and HD.
post #2 of 36
Aviamo hands down. do a search here where I have explained why.
post #3 of 36
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

Aviamo hands down. do a search here where I have explained why.

I guess you meant this post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

THE BEST IS THE aviamo 65" FOR 20 GRAND. No way around it, sorry.

When the Aviamo 103" comes out, then that will be the best, but Fujitsu has an absolutely irrevocable total superiority in plasma control technology, because their processor does video processing but much more in the area of "internal housekeeping functions" in the pulse and discharge mechanics (as it sees fit on a random basis) in subfield domain (<60hz cycle) .

Thanks for the opinion. I am only about 12' from the TV so I don't think I want to go to 103". It looks like the price is $18K.

I read it has a built-in set top box equivalent and cable card slot. That's not an advantage for me as I subscribe to Directv and won't part with my HR10-250 TIVO. Will my video quality be compromised at all going through the TIVO?
post #4 of 36
NO, It will make the most out of it.
post #5 of 36
While I haven't seen it, I don't see how anyone could beat the 65" fujitsu at this point. Their 42", 50" and 55" that i'm familiar with are really incredible sets.
post #6 of 36
The Aviamo 65 is all that. Droolvision.
post #7 of 36
How about Sony's new 70 inch LCD ($33,000)

http://www.sonyxbr.com/KDL-70XBR3press.htm

Looked fantastic at CES
post #8 of 36
Triluminous kicks ass. Yes the SONY would be better.
post #9 of 36
I guess if I had a Goldman Sachs income I'd shoot for the Sony 70" also and the Fujitsu Aviamo is supposed to be kick ass also - but 70" is my sweet spot for now. The Pio Super Plasma if they make it bigger than 60" should be a primo panel - a set that premium deserves a larger size as 60" has become old school.
post #10 of 36
Thread Starter 
What about the Vidikron VP6500VHD? One thing that annoys me about the Fujitsu is that is contains an internal video receiver and a cable card slot, neither of which have any value to me.
post #11 of 36
Der Vidikroner Ist Nicht Ein Fujitsu.
post #12 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

Triluminous kicks ass. Yes the SONY would be better.

Only if that thing is a lot better than the grasp of mathematics of whoever wrote this:
The new 70-inch model also features a new 10-bit panel which allows for an increase in the television's gradation level by 64 times from 8-bit panels. Additionally, Sony's new Motionflow 120Hz motion compensation technology creates 60 unique frames between each of the existing 60 frames, doubling the frames displayed per second, effectively eliminating image blurring and motion artifacts like �judder.
post #13 of 36
Thread Starter 
I just got off the phone with a guy who works for Vidikron. The electronics of the Vidikron and Runco are the same. The glass is made by different oem's and the frames are different colors, silver for Vidikron and black for Runco.

I think my choice is Runco/Vidikron vs. Fujitsu. I'm still thinking about it.
post #14 of 36
mhafner---I concede that's poorly written, but a 10-bit panel (presumably, 10 bits each for R, G, B) does have 64 times as many colors as an 8-bit (24-bit) panel. Or is there another mistake you're seeing that I'm missing?
post #15 of 36
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Originally Posted by Michael Grant View Post

mhafner---I concede that's poorly written, but a 10-bit panel (presumably, 10 bits each for R, G, B) does have 64 times as many colors as an 8-bit (24-bit) panel. Or is there another mistake you're seeing that I'm missing?

Depends on interpretation. 60 frames between each of the 60 frames sounds more like 3600 to me than 120.
post #16 of 36
Yes, I see what you're saying. Again, very poorly written...
post #17 of 36
Thread Starter 
If you were in my shoes, what would you do.

1. I can spend around $20K. I don't want smaller than 65". I watch SD as well as HD.
2. Once I buy a display, I'm not buying again for five years.
3. I still have my 65" Toshiba RPTV until I buy a new TV.

CINERAMAX would buy the Fujitsu now. What would other people do?

I'm not sure one way or another if this is as good a time to buy as any other.
post #18 of 36
Not so fast, if the Runco does have a Teranex in it it may have better scaling than the fujitsu although perhaps the contrast is better regulated in the Aviamo.

I say give Runco some brownie points too.
post #19 of 36
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

Not so fast, if the Runco does have a Teranex in it it may have better scaling than the fujitsu although perhaps the contrast is better regulated in the Aviamo.

I say give Runco some brownie points too.

Where did you hear that the Runco has a Teranex scaler? All I know is that it's not a Faroudja because the Vidikron salesman told me they used to have Faroudja's but not anymore.

I'm still getting educated here. Why is a Runco with a Teranex better than buying a cheaper plasma and pairing it with a separately purchased Teranex?
post #20 of 36
Some english scaler vendor winked and nudged at my side at CES when I metioned the Runco BenHur demo. Maybe he was making a pass at me but I doubt it.
post #21 of 36
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Originally Posted by thrasher8 View Post

How about Sony's new 70 inch LCD ($33,000)


Looked fantastic at CES

I seen this and Runco in person and it looks amazingly good.
post #22 of 36
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by digitalmediaPC View Post

I seen this and Runco in person and it looks amazingly good.

Did it look $13K better than the Runco? How did the Runco look to you?
post #23 of 36
I bought the New Runco. It is fabulous!!!

24HZ is coming too!
post #24 of 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by KAR120C#6 View Post

I'm looking to replace my old Toshiba 65h80.
I want the best possible TV, 65" minimum. Price isn't important.

Possibilities:
............
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others?

A front projector is out of the question because this will be in my family room. It's going to replace a CRT RP so I don't care how thin the TV is, just want the best pic for standard and HD.

Wait for the Brillian 765 1920x1080p 3-panel LCOS 65" diag. RPTV using the Silicon Optix Realta HQV chip. Here's the press release on this product, though they don't say when they'll start shipping:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....523&highlight=

Why wait?

-Their LCOS panels are very good (see the report done by Ray Soneira in the DisplayMate in the shootout for Home Theatre magazine in 2005:
Title: LCoS Display Technology Shoot-Out)

-the controller board with the Realta chip is from their 742 and 747 LCD TVs, which have received very good reviews, even though the LCD panels themselves in those sets aren't as good as they could be- see for example:
http://www.avguide.com/the-perfect-v...il&attr=header
post #25 of 36
next week my distributor is doing a Fujitsu Aviamo 65 Demo/Training session/we Just get to play around with the Plasma for aslong as we want. Personally, i am autorized to sell all of the above (companies). Before i go to see the Fujitsu, i will say the Fujitsu. Personally i own a 42", 50", and a 55". They have never let me down. I am just going in on tuesday, just to comferm how good it really is, because i will be planing on picking one up myself. (for my basement) Sorry for the quick typing. Just reading and responding while in the car. Not while driving but when i get caught at lights
post #26 of 36
Thread Starter 
I just bought approximately 1/2 a TV.

My local store is going to get the Fujitsu Aviamo and Runco 65" 1080p plasmas in at my request (and non-refundable deposit).

I'll get to see them side by side and see if I like the Runco $2,000 better than the Fujitsu. It will take a week or two to get them in but I'll report back once I've seen them and made my decision.

Another dealer told me that the Runco glass is made by Pioneer.
post #27 of 36
Not in 65 It can't.
post #28 of 36
Where is the dealer? Many of us would like the opportunity to see the Aviamo and Runco side by side.
post #29 of 36
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mindless View Post

Where is the dealer? Many of us would like the opportunity to see the Aviamo and Runco side by side.

Just outside of Baltimore. If anybody thinks they can make it there, send me a PM and I'll give them details. I"m not sure yet when they will come in. At least a week, maybe two.
post #30 of 36
Is the Aviamo eeven available yet? It does now show on the plasmavision website, but I hadn't heard that it was actually available for purchase.
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