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post #6811 of 11556
7/11/09 at 6:01am
2008 to 2009 comparison changes for my estimated Top 20 DVD and Blu-ray Units
Year to Date through 6/28/09 per HMM published pie chart percentage and The-Numbers.com data


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           YTD x        YTD+%

Blu-ray    2.43      143.16 %
DVD        1.08        7.53 %
DVD+BD     0.15        4.76 %

Gear mentioned in this thread:

post #6812 of 11556
7/11/09 at 6:33am
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/war...-dvd-biz-16333

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Analyst Upbeat on Warner DVD Biz


Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
By Erik Gruenwedel | Posted: 10 Jul 2009
egruenwedel@questex.com


Buoyed by the theatrical success of The Hangover, Pali Capital analyst Richard Greenfield July 10 said the $200 million box office comedy would likely be a “meaningful contributor” to Time Warner Inc.’s film revenue and earnings in fiscal-year 2009.

“Our [second-quarter] top-line and [fourth-quarter earnings before taxes] estimates could prove conservative,” Greenfield wrote in note.

Time Warner is parent to Warner Bros. Studios and Warner Home Video.

The analyst said Warner’s home entertainment division in the third quarter would experience initial tough comparisons with the same period in 2008 when the studio released Sex and the City: The Movie on DVD. That trend, however, would turn positive in the fourth quarter, according to Greenfield.


He said that despite the July 15 theatrical release of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince likely having tough year-over-year comparisons with The Dark Knight, the studio wouldn’t be negatively impacted financially since the Batman movie was 50% produced and owned by Legendary Pictures.

“The fourth quarter is shaping up well given the success of The Hangover (likely to be released on DVD in the quarter) and a likely Potter and Terminator: Salvation DVD versus The Dark Knight DVD and spillover from Sex and the City in the year-ago period,” Greenfield wrote.

Elimination of New Line Cinema, related personnel and 7% reduced overhead costs resulted a 17% increase in first-quarter (ended March 31) filmed-entertainment operating income to $214 million from $183 million during the prior-year period.

Filmed entertainment saw a 7% decline in revenue to $2.6 billion from $2.4 billion due to lower theatrical ticket sales and DVD sales — the latter negatively impacted by fewer home video releases and reduced catalog sales.

Time Warner reports second quarter results July 29.
post #6813 of 11556
7/11/09 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by Kosty View Post

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/dvd...rk-grows-16332

did they disclose $ figures?
post #6814 of 11556
7/11/09 at 10:58am
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1217029959586

Best Buy Insignia Blu-ray player $99. And so it begins.
post #6815 of 11556
7/11/09 at 11:08am
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Originally Posted by av.pallino View Post

did they disclose $ figures?


Why would they?

They just used phrases like " the workload is unbelievable", "The ramp-up is especially huge this summer', " they're working harder than ever", "non-studios like the smaller ones are jumping on the Blu-ray wagon," "demand is up because of higher household Blu-ray player penetration.", "The demand for creative presentations and added value features has become more focused and more intense," which kinda gives the impression that their business activities and hence revenues are significantly higher

Seriously though, its kinda unreasonable for those kinda of figures for internal costs for production or authoring to ever become public. Those figures are much more closely guarded than retail sales numbers.

Best we ever get is a detailed article like this one that implies that the trends are good.
post #6816 of 11556
7/11/09 at 11:08am
What this (hopefully) means is that for the holiday shopping season you'll see a mainstream "brand" name 1.1 or 2.0 player selling for $100, even if only on Black Friday. My guess is it'll be Samsung and Sony.

Brandon
post #6817 of 11556
7/11/09 at 11:11am
I think a Samsung for $99 on Black Friday is a sure thing now.

Just an aside. I know for a fact that the CEA analysts that follow this stuff did not think that that price point was going to be breached at Wal-Mart or Best Buy until late this year, probably around Black Friday for these brands. I know they are revising their sales estimates and projections now with these price points.
post #6818 of 11556
7/11/09 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by Kosty View Post

I think a Samsung for $99 on Black Friday is a sure thing now.

Just an aside. I know for a fact that the CEA analysts that follow this stuff did not think that that price point was going to be breached at Wal-Mart or Best Buy until late this year, probably around Black Friday for these brands. I know they are revising their sales estimates and projections now with these price points.

It took 19 months for the $99 price to appear after HD DVD first broke that barrier (you remember, the HD DVD player was the one that couldn't possibly be sold so cheap without being on firesale).

This is actually faster than I was expecting, by a few months anyway. And I wonder if this lower pricing came faster than some CE manufacturers were expecting or hoping. All the talk about keeping the prices of hardware higher this time, as compared to the DVD player pricing, and it seems we are at the $99 price point possible faster than DVD! Anyone know how long it took DVD before a $99 player was available?

Unless the company is making money through patent participation, it is difficult for me to believe that much, if any money has been made so far by the CE companies from the sale of Blu-ray players.

Is this rapid drop in player pricing the result of deals that were made back when Blu-ray was trying to win the format war? There has been speculation about what kind of assurances Warner was given back when they chose Blu-ray exclusivity. Considering that player pricing was probably the biggest factor in favor of going with HD DVD, player pricing had to be one of the assurances, right? Maybe they guaranteed a $99 player within 18 months?
post #6819 of 11556
7/11/09 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by Kosty View Post

I think a Samsung for $99 on Black Friday is a sure thing now.

Just an aside. I know for a fact that the CEA analysts that follow this stuff did not think that that price point was going to be breached at Wal-Mart or Best Buy until late this year, probably around Black Friday for these brands. I know they are revising their sales estimates and projections now with these price points.

But doesn't a $99 Blu-ray player in July make any so-called sales around Black Friday seem rather tepid? The people who have been waiting to buy a $99 player probably could care less whether it is a major manufacturer or is a 2.0 player. So what happens in November? Could the player price go any lower than $99? With a $99 player available, does this mostly kill the sales numbers for $199 players and above?
post #6820 of 11556
7/11/09 at 6:11pm
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It took 19 months for the $99 price to appear after HD DVD first broke that barrier (you remember, the HD DVD player was the one that couldn't possibly be sold so cheap without being on firesale).

This is actually faster than I was expecting, by a few months anyway. And I wonder if this lower pricing came faster than some CE manufacturers were expecting or hoping. All the talk about keeping the prices of hardware higher this time, as compared to the DVD player pricing, and it seems we are at the $99 price point possible faster than DVD! Anyone know how long it took DVD before a $99 player was available?

Unless the company is making money through patent participation, it is difficult for me to believe that much, if any money has been made so far by the CE companies from the sale of Blu-ray players.

Is this rapid drop in player pricing the result of deals that were made back when Blu-ray was trying to win the format war? There has been speculation about what kind of assurances Warner was given back when they chose Blu-ray exclusivity. Considering that player pricing was probably the biggest factor in favor of going with HD DVD, player pricing had to be one of the assurances, right? Maybe they guaranteed a $99 player within 18 months?

A couple thoughts.

Its not a conspiracy kinda thing here. Wal-Mart with the Magnavox and Best Buy with Insignia would not be part of that in any case. Its simply a reflection of component costs getting toward mass market production levels. Basically the SoC electronics motherboard, case and power supply are at DVD commodity pricing now and the other Blu-ray specific stuff, in the Blu-ray laser diodes within the assembled Blu-ray drive are now reaching economies of scale in their production. No mystery here.

Its just that the consumer electronic retailers are scaling up the size of the production runs and requests for components to meet larger unit runs to met expected demand. Part of that is for the past two years, the entire production builds for the 2007 era and 2008 era Blu-ray players mostly sold through by the end of the 4Q each year and were in short supply after the holiday season.

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But doesn't a $99 Blu-ray player in July make any so-called sales around Black Friday seem rather tepid? The people who have been waiting to buy a $99 player probably could care less whether it is a major manufacturer or is a 2.0 player. So what happens in November? Could the player price go any lower than $99? With a $99 player available, does this mostly kill the sales numbers for $199 players and above?

Most consumers don't pay that much attention and don't have that long a memory.

Besides the store brands lower pricing do not dilute the brand equity pricing of the higher brands. People expect them to cost more.

Typically having a lower priced entry level unit increases the sales of higher priced alternatives in a growing market. Some people obviously buy the lower priced units, but a lot of people see that unit and decide they can afford a, in this instance, a Blu-ray player for $99. So in their mind thats a sunk cost. their consideration then tends to go , well I can get a player with this extra feature for only $50 more, or a major brand for only $99 more etc. They tend to consider the upgrade price in their purchase as they have already emotionally committed to the purchase. Its especially powerful when all the alternatives are relatively affordable at $$249, $199, $149, or less.

By the time Black Friday rolls around the amount of advertising will make the deals seem fresh again.
post #6821 of 11556
7/11/09 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

Unless the company is making money through patent participation, it is difficult for me to believe that much, if any money has been made so far by the CE companies from the sale of Blu-ray players.

I don't see how a $99 Magnovox/Insignia branded player (for a limited time as far as we know) leads you to the conclusion that CE manufacturers have not been making money on BD hardware over the past 1-3 years (at price points well over $100, by the way).

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Is this rapid drop in player pricing the result of deals that were made back when Blu-ray was trying to win the format war? There has been speculation about what kind of assurances Warner was given back when they chose Blu-ray exclusivity. Considering that player pricing was probably the biggest factor in favor of going with HD DVD, player pricing had to be one of the assurances, right? Maybe they guaranteed a $99 player within 18 months?

Umm, you're seriously reaching here. Not to mention you are using speculation as the basis for further speculation...which I guess makes it circular speculation?

Brandon
post #6822 of 11556
7/11/09 at 6:19pm
Open the case of a modern Blu-ray player and its a simple thing now. Motherboard , power supply drive and cable in case with some LEDs. Its the R&D and the sophistication in there that is the BoM cost. Since its now at full scale mass market production levels now Blu-ray hardware pricing is moving more toward market driven price points that cost driven ones.

Someone is making money off on $29 and $49 DVD players, and Blu-ray players are basically the same modular plug it together design. The material component cost differences are nowhere near what the DVD versus Blu-ray MSRP price differences are. Lots more margin on Blu-ray players now even with their plummeting prices.

The CEMs are basing their wholesale costs and MSRP to where they think their models fit into the mass consumer adoption marketplace, more than a low production run first adopter high price per unit one.
post #6823 of 11556
7/11/09 at 10:41pm
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Originally Posted by Kosty View Post

Open the case of a modern Blu-ray player and its a simple thing now. Motherboard , power supply drive and cable in case with some LEDs. Its the R&D and the sophistication in there that is the BoM cost. Since its now at full scale mass market production levels now Blu-ray hardware pricing is moving more toward market driven price points that cost driven ones.

Someone is making money off on $29 and $49 DVD players, and Blu-ray players are basically the same modular plug it together design. The material component cost differences are nowhere near what the DVD versus Blu-ray MSRP price differences are. Lots more margin on Blu-ray players now even with their plummeting prices.

The CEMs are basing their wholesale costs and MSRP to where they think their models fit into the mass consumer adoption marketplace, more than a low production run first adopter high price per unit one.

Well, I guess it is possible that some money is being made on that $99 player. Computer BD-ROM drives are now selling as cheap as $69, so that pricing is somewhat in line.

But wasn't Blu-ray supposed to be different than DVD in regards to the way that DVD player pricing completely collapsed? If you look at the drop in pricing each year for Blu-ray players, it is not out of the question that a $49 player will be on the market by Christmas 2010. And that is the price point that began to kill the sales of major brand DVD players. I don't think Blu-ray would be any different.

How many people are going to pay TWICE the amount for a player, just for the better brand and/or 2.0 compatibility? That is the situation we have with $99 players versus $199 players. A $150 major brand player has a much better chance to compete, while interest in $199 players will probably be minimal during the holiday season, assuming the $99 (or cheaper) players are available.
post #6824 of 11556
7/11/09 at 11:05pm
Both are well withing the range of consumer acceptance.
post #6825 of 11556
7/11/09 at 11:15pm
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

I don't see how a $99 Magnovox/Insignia branded player (for a limited time as far as we know) leads you to the conclusion that CE manufacturers have not been making money on BD hardware over the past 1-3 years (at price points well over $100, by the way).
Brandon

Considering the R&D involved in Blu-ray, there were a lot of costs to recoup. It is likely that not enough players were sold in 2006 and 2007 to make up for those costs, even at inflated prices. Remember Sony in 2007 saying that there wouldn't be a price drop on their standalone player, only to drop the price a couple weeks later in the middle of the holiday season. Either they were making a ton of money per player sold at the original price, or they were willing to take a loss/not make any money at all on that model. And of course, when Sony drops its price, Samsung had to make sure its players were the same price or cheaper. Meanwhile people were buying the PS3 instead of the standalone players, due to the comparable pricing. That was 2007. In 2008 the player sales greatly improved in the second half of the year.

It is possible that the initial investment in Blu-ray is now starting to pay off.

But just as sales are really starting to take off, we already have a $99 player on the market. This is going to put a lot of pressure on Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, etc. to make cheaper players available, at least a lot cheaper than the $199+ pricing that is common right now for those brands. This is good for Blu-ray in general, but bad for those hardware manufacturers who wanted a cash cow by having a healthy margin on each player sold for several years into the life of the format.
post #6826 of 11556
7/12/09 at 12:31am
Once again as a consumer, I don't give a damn about companies having a cash cow as long as they can make a sustainable profit that encourages them to produce the consumer good and improve them. Blu-ray players also help sell HDTVs when brands are matched in promotional offers.

Pretty much the CEMs besides Sony covered themselves by letting others take the risk in developing the format and its infastructure and making small less risky production runs that have sold through, so as the R&D has been done by the SOC providers, as the components have been developed by those vendors and as the disc replication R&D and physical replication facilities have been paid for by others, they can jump into mass production levels now at good margins and little risk.
post #6827 of 11556
7/12/09 at 8:44am
Remember that Sony and Toshiba (and their partners) made a huge investment and took a lot of risks to give us an HD format. Toshiba clearly lost, and it is not yet clear how much Sony will make.

We also have to remember what the pricing was on VCR's, CD players, and DVD players during their early years. In 1979, 3 years after the VCR introduction, you would still pay $700 or so for a VCR, at 1979 prices. We have become very spoiled by favorable CEM trends in chip design etc. in recent years.

People seem to want it both ways: innovation and low prices with zero profit margins. This doesn't work.
post #6828 of 11556
7/12/09 at 9:54am
If the companies didn't think it was in the business interest to do some thing they wouldn't. Kosty is right in the fact that the price to make a unit has dropped dramatically. One chip now handles what used to take many chips to do. By shrinking things down like that is massively simplifies design as well as code and QA required to make it work. Now instead of requiring the R&D department of a huge company like Sony to design a player smaller shops can now do it. Manufacturing specs out side of the chip don't have to be as tight because the most critical stuff is all in a couple of chips so you can let a second tier fab shop do the assembly now. And on and on it goes.


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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

Considering the R&D involved in Blu-ray, there were a lot of costs to recoup. ...

... This is good for Blu-ray in general, but bad for those hardware manufacturers who wanted a cash cow by having a healthy margin on each player sold for several years into the life of the format.

Personally I think the market research guys who came up with the idea that consumers would be more than happy to pay way more without batting an eye messed the bed. I would like to think that the lessons from this format war and the events since would teach the CE companies some lessons and they might think before jumping into the next format. However experience has taught me that it didn't.
post #6829 of 11556
7/12/09 at 1:32pm
The Blu-ray consumer electronic manufacturers and retailers who support Blu-ray and have a stake in extending the revenue model of packaged home media hardware and optical disc software sales with high definition Blu-ray are also adapting their strategies to the global economic climate.

This is a critical adoption year for expansion of the Blu-ray hardware base and selling to mass market numbers of consumers. Would retailers, CEMs and studios like to sustain higher prices for hardware and software for any season and milk out some additional margins? Sure they would. But people in the industry and at retail are not stupid.

Unfortunate for their margins and profits that this growth year for Blu-ray is smack dab in a serious global recession and its being affected by consumer confidence and spending.

So hardware prices are dropping in reaction to the market and if they are not as high as hoped for, its a reality of the economic climate. Its still better margins for CEMs and retailers than DVD player sales.

So thats a more significant concern for the one time cost of a player. Retailers have an incentive to sell the hardware (the razor) to move units and then gain additional revenues by selling the Blu-ray versions (the blades) at a higher margin than DVD for either the new releases or certainly the catalog releases. the studios and retailers are also eventually to get those catalog sales rolling and get a bonus double dip in the high definition sale of the studio library titles as some consumers upgrade to the Blu-ray version of their favorite movies for their home libraries.

All of this is relevant to this thread as greater hardware sales will generate more software sales over time as not only more owners buy more stuff by retailers service that larger pool of owners by stocking more titles at cheaper prices as well. A Virtuous Circle of increasing sales can result.
post #6830 of 11556
7/12/09 at 9:25pm
Not wanting the thread to drift to far, I just wanted to post this.

A major 16 store midwest retailer just put up on their web site a Bonus view profile 1.1 player for $50.09.

$50 Profile 1.1 Blu-ray player Sherwood BDP5003 (for $50.09 before shipping)

Yes - you read it right. A profile 1.1 player for $50.

I be damned. Not a mistake, and its a real Blu-ray player, not just a description error.

The retailer is a mid west electronics white goods and furniture retailer with more than a dozen stores in the Midwest.


http://www.americantv.com/itemDetail...dENkPTUwNDE%3D

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SHERWOOD BDP5003


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Photos for Illustration Only. Some photos may differ including color or finish from actual product.

SHERWOOD
Blu Ray DVD Player
BDP5003
Blu Ray DVD Player
Plays CD, DVD, & Blu Ray Disc
Capability of 1080p output from Blu Ray
Sacles Standard DVD's to 720p
1080i or 1080p w/HDMI 1.3 Output
WXHXD 2.19X16.94X10.25 5LBS

$50.09

How to get it...
Delivery: No
Shipping:
Yes Normally ships within 1 - 2 days
Pickup:
Yes

http://hometheater.about.com/b/2008/...and-rating.htm

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Sherwood BDP-5003 Blu-ray Disc Player - Product Review and Rating
Tuesday December 30, 2008

The BDP-5003 is Sherwood's first venture into Blu-ray Disc player territory. Features of the BDP-5003 include playback of Blu-ray Discs at full 1080p/60 or 1080p/24 resolution and Standard DVD upscaling to 1080p via the HDMI output. The BDP-5003 does not have built-in audio decoders, but does provide Bitstream output for all formats including both Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD via its HDMI 1.3a output. The BDP-5003 adheres to Profile 1.1 (Bonus View) specifications, but with no Ethernet port or memory expansion slot, is not upgradable to Profile 2.0 (BD-Live). On the other hand, both video and audio quality are very good. To find out if the Sherwood BDP-5003 is the right Blu-ray Disc Player for you, check out both my Short and Full Reviews, as well as a Photo Profile and Video Performance Test Results. Photos (c) Robert Silva - Licensed to About.com


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About American

Founded in 1954, American has built a market-leading reputation for exceptional customer service, selection, and price earning us numerous awards as an outstanding retailer of furniture, consumer electronics and appliances. Over the years, American has become known for building stunning, beautiful retail stores and for maintaining them meticulously.

Stores
Corporate headquarters are based in Madison, Wisconsin, with 15 current retail stores:
Wisconsin (six stores): Madison East, Madison West, Brown Deer, Waukesha, Oak Creek, Appleton.
Illinois (three stores): Peoria, Rockford, O'Fallon.
Iowa (two stores): Des Moines, Davenport.
Missouri (three stores): Bridgeton, Fenton, Cottleville
Michigan (one store): Marquette

Each store averages 125 employees and is approximately 130,000 square feet in size. Two distribution centers, on the outskirts of both Milwaukee and St Louis, as well as a 44,000 square foot service center in Madison support our retail operations. These 15 stores will generate total sales of approximately $450 million and employ over 2000 people.

Two important elements of American's mission and vision are to "serve and support the community" as well as our "dedication to community partnership". Nowhere is this more evident than in the support American and its employees give to the United Way. In addition to the various volunteer roles that American employees assume, from board members to volunteer fire fighters, American also supports numerous charitable and community organizations.

http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-BDP-5.../dp/B001FBAI7I

Amazon has the same player in stock for $186

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Sherwood BDP-5003 Blu-Ray Disc Player
Other products by Sherwood
3.3 out of 5 stars See all reviews (3 customer reviews) | More about this product
List Price: $249.99
Price: $186.79
You Save: $63.20 (25%)
In Stock.
Ships from and sold by Electronics Expo.

9 new from $186.79
post #6831 of 11556
7/12/09 at 9:54pm
Its an online price match with their local sale price for this unit this week.

Its not a highlighted sale from their homepage nor does it show up on their normal Blu-ray player sort, you have to go to search for that model or go to that page. But it is going into their cart and you get a confirmation email on it once you buy it.

Amazing.
post #6832 of 11556
7/12/09 at 11:58pm
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Originally Posted by Kosty View Post

Its an online price match with their local sale price for this unit this week.

Its not a highlighted sale from their homepage nor does it show up on their normal Blu-ray player sort, you have to go to search for that model or go to that page. But it is going into their cart and you get a confirmation email on it once you buy it.

Amazing.

I bought one this afternoon and got a confirming email. I will post back when it comes.

I suspect it is similar to the Magnavox that is on sale at Wal-Mart for $98. I already bought a Magnavox (for the bedroom) and it works very well. I was impressed by the speed of operation.

They are probably both made by Funai.

I am running out of places to put Blu-ray players! The Sherwood will mean that every DVD player we own will have been replaced. Check out my Ebay sales for used DVD players.
post #6833 of 11556
7/13/09 at 2:09am
Thats just unbelievable.

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Buy a Blu-ray Player for $50 and Change

Posted July 13, 2009 04:47 AM by Juan Calonge

Midwestern retail chain American TV has just dropped the price of the Sherwood BDP-5003 Blu-ray player to a mind-boggling $50.09. It can be picked up at any of its 15 retail stores in Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri and Michigan, or shipped anywhere in the US (with additional shipping costs). Stock is probably limited, so act fast.

With regard to the player itself, it is similar to the other budget players around. It is BonusView (Profile 1.1) compatible, and supports advanced audio codecs (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio) via bitstreaming.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3092
post #6834 of 11556
7/13/09 at 2:28am
Ok here is the engadget series of articles on this player:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/30...titive-prices/

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Sherwood might cancel Blu-ray players due to competitive prices
by Ben Drawbaugh, posted Oct 30th 2008 at 9:33PM


Whoa, this player didn't last very long -- first there was the delay, and now the Sherwood Blu-ray players announced at CEDIA, may never see the light of day. The reason is a good one for consumers, which is that Blu-ray player prices are dropping so fast that Sherwood doesn't think its player would be competitive. We can't say we blame them, when the big names in the market, like Sony and Samsung, have stand-alone players selling at select retailers for as low as $200. We don't think anyone predicted that player prices would drop this fast, and not only are "value" companies like Sherwood likely to drop the budget players, but the old fashioned DVD players are sure to follow. We mean, who in there right mind would buy a stand-alone DVD player if they could buy a Blu-ray player for the same price?

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/14...ntil-november/

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Sherwood BDP-5003 Blu-ray player delayed until November
by Richard Lawler, posted Oct 14th 2008 at 10:43PM


All those eagerly awaiting the Sherwood's lower end Blu-ray offering, the BDP-5003, must readjust their October launch expectations by one month. Unfortunately, at $299, a pretty standard Bonus View equipped player doesn't really scream "value" to us -- unless compared to similar high price marques like the Integra DBS-6.9, but with a LG BD300 for only $50 more and the Panasonic DMP-BD35 at the same price, it's hard to justify. The 5.1-analog packing big brother BDP-6003 failed to impress at CEDIA, but if 1080p24, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA output via HDMI have you interested, punch the read link (warning: PDF) and let us know if we missed anything.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/08/27...yers-to-cedia/

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Sherwood bringing two new Blu-ray players to CEDIA
by Richard Lawler, posted Aug 27th 2008 at 11:47AM

Sherwood's been known mainly for its audio, but TWICE has the details on two new Blu-ray players on the way at CEDIA. Consisting of the high end $499 MSRP BDP-6003 and the mass market-targeted $299 BDP-5003 are both Bonus View Profile 1.1 players that upscale all content to 1080p and decode all Blu-ray audio formats, with the 6003 including 5.1 analog out, while the 5003 makes do with just stereo. Front mounted USB ports, DivX, JPEG and MP3 playback, HDMI 1.3 and Ethernet ports are consistent across both players, but we'll wait for a hands-on next week to see if analog surround sound is enough to bring this hardware on a level with the competition.

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Sherwood To Add Blu-ray, LCD TVs
By Joseph Palenchar -- TWICE, 8/27/2008

http://www.twice.com/article/251898-...ay_LCD_TVs.php

Cerritos, Calif. — Audio supplier Sherwood plans a CEDIA Expo launch next week of its first two Blu-ray players and, under its high-end Newcastle series, a return to the TV market with two LCD TVs.
The players are the $499-suggested BDP-6003, due in September, and the $299-suggested BDP-5003, to follow in October. The 6003 is intended for “sheltered distribution,” and the 5003 is targeted to the mass market, said Jeffrey Hipps, marketing and product development senior VP.
In providing a feature update, Hipps said Sherwood has upgraded the BDP-6003 to Blu-ray Profile 2.0 status to offer BD Live capability. The BDP-5003 is a Profile 1.1 player with BonusView capability.
Both models, however, feature 1080p up-scaling of DVD; front-panel USB Host port; and composite-, S- and component-video outputs to go with its HDMI 1.3 output. Both feature decoding of all authorized Blu-ray surround formats. The 6003 adds 5.1-channel analog output for connection to early A/V receivers, while the 5003 features two-channel analog output. Both players also play discs encoded with DivX, JPEG and MP3 files, and both feature coaxial and Toslink digital audio outputs, 192kHz/24-bit audio DACs and Ethernet port for firmware upgrades.
“Decoding TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio and sending the results through the multichannel analog pipeline is still rare and expensive,” Hipps noted. “Denon is at $1,000, and Panasonic and Sony are at $500 or above. It [5.1 analog output] opens up lossless audio to users who don't have HDMI receivers. That's still a pretty sizable market.”
In the past, Sherwood offered DVD players in the Sherwood and Sherwood Newcastle series.
Few details of the LCD TVs were available, but the company will display a 32-inch and 42-inch model under its Sherwood Newcastle brand. The 32-inch model has a native resolution of 1,366 by 768, while the 42-inch model features 1080p display. They ship in December at prices that haven’t been announced.

http://www.sherwoodusa.com/

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BDP-5003
Capable of 1080p output from Blu-Ray discs, the BDP-5003 also scales standard DVD's to 720p, 1080p (24 or 60Hz) when used with its HDMI 1.3 output.
2 3/16" 16 15/16"

10 1/4"





Bring the highest definition home with this new Blu-Ray Player from Sherwood.
Plays CD, DVD's and the latest in High-Definition disc : Bluray.
Capable of 1080p output from Blu-Ray discs, the BDP-5003 also scales standard DVD's to 720p, 1080p
(24 or 60Hz) when used with its HDMI 1.3 output.
Plays back lossless audio from Dolby and DTS via HDMI.


UPGRADE INSTRUCTIONS
1. Please copy the folder, when unzipped, BDP5003 to the disc.
2. Place the disc in the BDP-5003. After the disc is loaded, the player will recognize that the disc is a firmware upgrade. After the
---user confirms the upgrade by pressing enter, the player plays the discs and completes the upgrade. The process takes about
---2 1/2 minutes.



- Blu-Ray Playback (BD-ROM, RE1, RE2)
- DVD-ROM
- DVD +-R/RW, CD-R/RW Compatible
- CD, MP3 CD
- MPEG's 1, 2&4; VC-1; H-264 - Output : HDMI 1.3; Component, S-Video, Composite
- Scale Output to 720p, 1080i, 1080p via HDMI - 480p Component Video Output
- 192kHz / 24-Bit Audio DAC's - Toslink and coaxial digital audio Output
- 2-Channel audio downmix output - Dolby TruHD; Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby Digital
- DTS HD, DTS-ES, DTS - Blu-Ray Profile 1.1
- UPC Code : 0 93279 83437 7

Frequency Range DVD (48kHz / 96kHz) : 4Hz ~ 22kHz / 4Hz ~ 44kHz
Audio CD : 4Hz ~ 20kHz
Video Output (Composite) 1 V, p-p, 75 ohms
S-Video (Y/C)
1 V / 0.286V, p-p
Component Video (Cr) 0.7V, p-p
Component Video (Cb) 0.7V, p-p
Video Resolution 1080 lines
Audio Output 2 Volts, RMS
Signal - to - Noise Ratio 110db
Dynamic Range (16/20/24 bit) 90db
Channel Separation 95db
Total Harmonic Distortion 0.00003
Weight 7 lbs, 11oz
post #6835 of 11556
7/13/09 at 5:51am
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...E/index.php#/2

new HMM for July 13-19, 2009 is up.
post #6836 of 11556
7/13/09 at 7:28am
The new HMM for July 13-19, 2009 is up with data for the week ending 7/5/09.


link: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...startid=Cover2






(other charts brought down to put them all together)



OK here is the story and images for the week ending 7/5/09

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/res...ots-no-1-16305

Quote:


12 Rounds Shoots to No. 1


12 Rounds
By Thomas K. Arnold | Posted: 08 Jul 2009
tarnold@questex.com

The dog days of summer are upon us. As studios continue to hold back their big films for fourth-quarter release, consumer spending levels are going down and movies that otherwise would have been also-rans are shooting up the charts, simply because there’s no high-profile competition to contend with them.


The top-selling home video release for the week ended July 5 was 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment’s 12 Rounds, an actioner that was one of the last films from the now-shuttered Fox Atomic division, launched two years ago to produce low-budget theatricals aimed at teens.


12 Rounds was No. 1 on the Nielsen VideoScan First Alert sales chart and also topped Nielsen’s Blu-ray Disc chart its first week in stores, but largely by default: with just $12.2 million in theatrical earnings, the film was nevertheless the week’s top-grossing new release. The film also managed to snag the No. 1 sales spot with estimated unit sales of fewer than 150,000 discs, according to Home Media Research.


On Home Media Magazine’s video rental chart for the week, 12 Rounds debuted at No. 2, right behind Warner’s Gran Torino, which moved back into the No. 1 rental spot a month after its release. The previous week it was No. 4.


12 Rounds was followed on the sales chart by HBO’s season five TV DVD set of Entourage, which debuted No. 2 and sold nearly 87% as many copies as 12 Rounds, albeit at a much higher list price. Walt Disney Studios’ TV movie Princess Protection Program debuted at No. 3, with Gran Torino finishing at No. 4. Rounding out the top five was another Disney release, Jonas Brothers — The Concert Experience.







Top 20 Sellers for the Week Ended 7/5/09

Top 20 Selling Blu-ray Discs for the Week Ended 7/5/09
post #6837 of 11556
7/13/09 at 7:33am
I'm always at homemediamagazine too just to check what BD should I buy.
post #6838 of 11556
7/13/09 at 7:41am
I'm just constantly appreciative of all the data we get from them week after week for years and years now.
post #6839 of 11556
7/13/09 at 11:09am
BTW the Sherwood $50 Blu-ray player deal is all sold out and is now longer available.
post #6840 of 11556
7/13/09 at 12:02pm
Not much of a surprise at that price.
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