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Meridian vs. Sim audio

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hi everyone

I am concidering the 2 following setups.

1. Meridian DSP 5200 & G91

2. Sim audio Moon Evolution I-7 + Supernova CD & Audio physic Virgo 3 speakers


If someone has experience with either of the setups(or near them) I would like to hear about it.

I would say there are pro's & con's on both systems, but at the moment I really can't decide which to go for.

The meridian setup gives me a very powerfull microdynamic which I love, but maybe it lacks a bit in the overall cohesion and might be a bit "boring".

The sim audio-audio physic setup doesn't deliver the same microdynamics and precision, but is very vivid and has a great overall dynamic.

Hope to get some comments.
post #2 of 15
I own 5200s with a G68 and it is anything but boring. I have heard anyhing better, for both movies and music. I really had to stretch my budget and then some, but it's worth every last cent. Less boxes, no worrying about high priced cables, completely upgradeable, excellent build quality, WAF and did I mention how brilliant it sounds (really tight base too).

Definitely a vote for Meridian. The only thing to be aware of is no HDMI 1.3 solution for the processor yet and no next gen DVD (yet).
post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by Chris1971 View Post

I own 5200s with a G68 and it is anything but boring. I have heard anyhing better, for both movies and music. I really had to stretch my budget and then some, but it's worth every last cent. Less boxes, no worrying about high priced cables, completely upgradeable, excellent build quality, WAF and did I mention how brilliant it sounds (really tight base too).

Definitely a vote for Meridian. The only thing to be aware of is no HDMI 1.3 solution for the processor yet and no next gen DVD (yet).

I appreciate the input. Thank you.

I am also leaning towards meridian at the moment. There are though some things I am worried about. Do you feel they go low enough? Also how about listening fatigue?
post #4 of 15
Why not both? Meridian processor and Simaudio amps?

Back when I bought my 861 I thought about going full digital one day. I heard several DSPs before at shows and liked them. First I thought about the 5k, so I started to seriously listen to those. Turned out they were not good enough. So I focused on the 5.5k, but in the end, they were not too good either. I then listened to the 6k, 7k and 8k and none of these really made me happy. I think there are much better speakers out there, for way less money. I didn't have the time yet to seriously listen to the new in-/on-wall series on the other hand.

I'm now using the 861 with two 192k balanced output cards.

Simaudio has some nice amps and they mix well with Meridian. You only have to match your speakers with the amps then.
post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by Stephan View Post

Why not both? Meridian processor and Simaudio amps?

Back when I bought my 861 I thought about going full digital one day. I heard several DSPs before at shows and liked them. First I thought about the 5k, so I started to seriously listen to those. Turned out they were not good enough. So I focused on the 5.5k, but in the end, they were not too good either. I then listened to the 6k, 7k and 8k and none of these really made me happy. I think there are much better speakers out there, for way less money. I didn't have the time yet to seriously listen to the new in-/on-wall series on the other hand.

I'm now using the 861 with two 192k balanced output cards.

Simaudio has some nice amps and they mix well with Meridian. You only have to match your speakers with the amps then.

I'm not musch for doing both meridian & Sim audio. Would rather pick one and then have a full solution from one company.

But thank you for the input.
post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by Jefezz View Post

I'm not musch for doing both meridian & Sim audio. Would rather pick one and then have a full solution from one company.

But thank you for the input.

But neither really offers a full solution. My Meridian 861 has features that no Sim pre/pro has and Meridian doesn't have an amp like the Sim Evolution amps.
post #7 of 15
Stephan where in florida are you now, the west coast? Let's get together.
post #8 of 15
Peter,

I'm in Bradenton. However, this is more of a business thing for me, so I don't live there. I'm still in Germany, but whatever business I have to do, I handle from there if necessary.

I'll take you up on the meeting next time I'm over there.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

But neither really offers a full solution. My Meridian 861 has features that no Sim pre/pro has and Meridian doesn't have an amp like the Sim Evolution amps.

My plan is either to go fully active and digital with the meridian setup. Dsp 5200's & a G91

Or

Sim audio Evolution and passive speakers.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by Jefezz View Post

I appreciate the input. Thank you.

I am also leaning towards meridian at the moment. There are though some things I am worried about. Do you feel they go low enough? Also how about listening fatigue?

Lows will depend on the size of your room and personal preference. I pair mine with a Meridian SW5500, the larger of the two subs, and it definitely doesn't struggle. Also, no listening fatigue. I love to listen to movies LOUD and it is crystal clear. One thing to be aware of with Meridian though, sometimes they can be so clear that you hear everything on a good and bad master.

Crap in = crap out.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by Jefezz View Post

My plan is either to go fully active and digital with the meridian setup. Dsp 5200's & a G91

Or

Sim audio Evolution and passive speakers.

I think you should base that decision on the speakers, not the electronics.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

I think you should base that decision on the speakers, not the electronics.

I see your point, but i just have not found any speakers I feel that can do the same things as the meridian active speakers.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by Jefezz View Post

I see your point, but i just have not found any speakers I feel that can do the same things as the meridian active speakers.

What is it that you expect a speaker to do? As far as quality goes, check out Wilson, VonSchweikert, Isophon and Eben. Of course the results will depend alot on the amps as well. So you have to match the amps to the speakers. In my opinion cables are also important, check out Nordost.

Of course this is not a "one box" solution as Meridian offers it. I really like the idea of having no amps taking up space and you only have to run a cable from the processor to the speaker. It sure looks better to keep the living room look clean. I thought about getting the 5200s for my second system in the living room (for watching TV and series), but except for the looks, there was nothing that left an impression.

Now, if you like the Meridian speakers so much and have heard nothing better yet, there are two things you can do. Do alot more speaker/amp/cable demos or, if you really like them so much, simply buy them.
post #14 of 15
...and maybe a G91A instead of a G91...
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by tommypeters View Post

...and maybe a G91A instead of a G91...

I think they changed over to just building G91As. The G91A still has MHR digital output.

Cheers,
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