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GEFEN HOME THEATER scaler does vertical strech on HDMI HD input ?

post #1 of 11
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http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=4298

just noticed this new gizmo for $495
IF it does, might be interesting for the PEARL and the RS1/HD1
post #2 of 11
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Originally Posted by Digital2004 View Post

http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=4298

just noticed this new gizmo for $495
IF it does, might be interesting for the PEARL and the RS1/HD1

I don't think it will work... It has aspect ratio control, but no vertical or horizontal stretch.

Here is a little something from the Gefen forum:
http://forum.gefen.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1673
post #3 of 11
The answers the tech gave didn't seem to be all that conclusive to the questions asked. Perhaps this should be explored a bit more?
post #4 of 11
To add a bit more, I did some poking around the forum and realized that a lot of the questions dealing with vertical stretch had pretty uninformed answers.
For example, a question Bertola asks in the forum (http://forum.gefen.com/topic.asp?TOP...rtical,stretch):

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Originally Posted by Bertola View Post

Hi,
Anyone know if the HTS will be able to vertically stretch incoming signal for use i constant image height 2.35:1 projection? I want to vertically stretch 2.35 materal vertically so that I expand the image into the black bars on a 16x9 display (makes people look tall & skinny), then stretch horizontally using an anamorphic lens to bring correct aspect ratio back to image. I'm sure the scaler chip can accomodate this simple stretch, but I don't know if the feature is enabled.

here's pics of what I want to do: http://www.prismasonic.com/english/intro.shtml
(scroll down to: 16:9 to 2.35:1 conversion)

The answer the tech gives him is this:

" The Home Theater is currently set to expand the picture to fill all the pixels for whatever display it is connected to."

This makes me feel like either (a) the techs themselves aren't sure what Bertola was asking about (even though I feel it very well explained, especially including the descriptive primasonic link), or (b) are using an automated filter reply system or are just required by their employer to provide an answer to questions, even if unhelpful.
post #5 of 11
A little of both A and B...

Mark
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by wcaughey View Post

To add a bit more, I did some poking around the forum and realized that a lot of the questions dealing with vertical stretch had pretty uninformed answers.
For example, a question Bertola asks in the forum (http://forum.gefen.com/topic.asp?TOP...rtical,stretch):



The answer the tech gives him is this:

" The Home Theater is currently set to expand the picture to fill all the pixels for whatever display it is connected to."

This makes me feel like either (a) the techs themselves aren't sure what Bertola was asking about (even though I feel it very well explained, especially including the descriptive primasonic link), or (b) are using an automated filter reply system or are just required by their employer to provide an answer to questions, even if unhelpful.

I even called their customer service and left voice mail and no one returned my call. I remember leaving a message like "I would like to know if your new Home Theater Scaler can do Vertical Strech".
post #7 of 11
The problem is, unless they themselves have CIH, they would have no idea why anyone would want such a feature...

Mark
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
well let's hope JVC makes a soft upgrade to the VXP processor (since the marantz allows it and it's the same chip jeez !)
post #9 of 11
Yea, I'm hoping for that as well...in the future I think it just wouldn't make sense to have projectors that didn't have the ability to do internal vertical stretching for hd and sd material.

Since PJs are the only current device that allows doing so correctly, it can become a major selling point to a crowd that continues to grow when they discover the magnificence of 2.35:1 CH movies.

Any idea what would be stopping JVC from doing this?
post #10 of 11
In retrospect, it shouldn't be called a "Home Theater Scaler" if it can't do vertical stretch. The use of "Home", "Theater", and "Scaler" in the same phrase implies to me that vertical stretch should be the ONLY thing it can do.

It should be called a "16:9 HD Optimizer". Any HD display with an internal scaler is probably better than this.
post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by wcaughey View Post


Any idea what would be stopping JVC from doing this?

Again, just the "why" it should be included...

Mark
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