Lutron - Series 4 or 5 ?

The P5 series is the new generation of HomeWorks processors, IP enabled, can be uploaded to via internet. It is also scalable, broken in to 3 sub systems, all completely connectable.

1. 8 series
2. 4 series
3. RF

The 8 series is the processer most similar to the old interactive processor able to control the large remote panels and the newly added grafik system panels, includes an RF expansion point on it as well as IP port and 2 RS 232 ports. It is the only processor that can control both Vareo and Maestro style wallbox controls

The 4 series has all the functions of the 8 series but only comes with one RS 232 port, cannot control the remote panels and cannot talk to vareo wallbox devices. It can be ordered with an RF expander, but is not needed. I spec this processor the most as it can prove to be cost effective solution.

The RF is just that, RF only. It has 2 RS 232 ports, IP port and can only speak to RF devices.

All 3 have the same programming utility, so all have the same programming capabilities, just comes down to your requirements as far as what system you use.

Which system would you recommend for small residential project (2500 sf)
Softswitch128 orSoftswitch512
Which one will work with HomeSeer?

Neither, the softswitch systems are typically a commercial application, providing limited programming options and are only switching systems, not dimming systems


Again I believe neither will, aside from if the Homeseer is able to generate contact closures and talking to the softswitch's "2" built-in relays. If you go to homeseer's webpage and search Lutron or HomeWorks, you will find a plug-in for the home seer system to talk to HW. Not very familiar with Homeseer so I can't be too much help in that department.

As far as a 2500 square foot home, you could use either RadioRa or HomeWorks. If the home is done and sheetrocked, then Ra would be your best route. If however you are still in the design or rough frame phase, HomeWorks is usually less expensive in the equipment department, plus wire to all the switches etc... find a Lutron Rep or contractor in your area and they can help you out.

I have a HW system in my 2000 sqft home and it fits my needs great. I'm using both the wired and RF system so I can get controls in sheetrocked areas and tabletop keypads as part of my scheme.

Gurkha thanks for your reply.
Yes, now I see the question was kinda dumb.
I was poking around Lutron web site in search of information about HomeWorks and ran across some PDF document comparing Softswitch128 orSoftswitch512 and thought it was part of HomeWorks system.
Their web site is absolutely not DIY friendly. Got to find some Lutron guys here.
Any way appreciate your input.

I wouldn't use the HWV-600D if I were you. I would use the HWD-600 instead. The HW Vareo's aren't designed to be used with 4 series processors. HW Maestro dimmers can be used with both. Vareo also requires a "custom" coverplate, Maestro uses a Decora opening. BTW, you really should contact a local HomeWorks guy.

jcmitch

I agree with jcmitch

1st, Find a homeworks contractor in you area, go to Lutrons webpage and request info on HomeWorks, a Lutron rep should contact you within a few days.

http://lutron.com/wtb/wheretobuy.aspx?cid=0


2nd, Stick with the HWD series dimmers and switches, the use of a 4 series processor is then possible and will help keep your costs down.

Cost, the 8 series processor is more hardware capable than the 4 series, subsequently it costs more. That said, programming is the same regardless as the same programming utility programs both.

Since you are stuck 8 series, I personally feel you are better off. It comes standard with 2 RS232 ports and and an RF link. You can also add remote power panels if needed.

The HomeWorks Vareo HWV communicates to the HomeWorks processor via a D48 board. HW Maestros to a H48 board. The newer protocol is faster and allows more devices on a single wiring bus. 4 series processors don't communicate w/ the D48. My personal issue with Vareo is the coverplate, which you aren't going to find in any hardware store. There are also fewer load types available for HW Vareo, and a few more subtle differences including dipswitch addressing (a blessing in disguise). I say use 'em if you've got 'em.

jcmitch

H8P5-D48-120 or H8P5-120 and an outboard D48.

jcmitch

BTW, there are no processors priced near $1100, even the lowest priced 4 series is nearly $2k.

P5 and P4 processors of equivalent capability are roughly the same price, so the P4 may be a leftover from a job. Sounds like the H8P5-D48-120 is what you need, if you will have no RPM modules. P5 has ethernet on board and more software features. It has replaced the P4 in Lutron's line.

If the dimmers are already installed, I would presume you already own the multi-gang wallplates, which to JCM's point are not your garden-variety wallplates. The single gang plates come with the Vareos.