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post #301 of 466
I have a couple MBM's for sale for anyone interested.

http://forum.hsuresearch.com/showthr...ed=1#post37810
post #302 of 466
I am sure this has been answered but I can't find it...

Can I use the speaker wires out of my mains and center and hook them up to an MBM then go out to the speakers from there?

I have 2 huge subs and could use some help with my speakers bass but don't need any LFE help.
post #303 of 466
goonstopher,

What frequencies are your two huge subs setup to output?
post #304 of 466
They aren't set up yet... But have wanted an MBM for a while and could get a good deal.
post #305 of 466
sellin an mbm-12 on avs classfied b
post #306 of 466
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Originally Posted by goonstopher View Post

They aren't set up yet... But have wanted an MBM for a while and could get a good deal.

Be sure you actually need one before going out and buying one.

I bought one not long after they came out and found that I really didn't need one not to mention that I had a bear of a time trying to intergrate it. Wound up selling it off.
post #307 of 466
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Be sure you actually need one before going out and buying one.

I bought one not long after they came out and found that I really didn't need one not to mention that I had a bear of a time trying to intergrate it. Wound up selling it off.

I got two of them and they intergrate just fine.

Bill
post #308 of 466
Mine intergrated perfect...I have 2 hsu 3.3, one in the front right and one in the front left. My mbm's are next to the listening position. I experminted with the set up with WOW emergence scene when the pavement cracks. I treid it with the 3.3 with lfe set to in (crossover at 50) and the mbm's set to out (crossover 100 via the receiver). MAJOR fist punch in the chest when the pavement cracks. I then turned off the mbm's and switched the 3.3's set to out (crossover 100 via the receiver) to see if there was really any difference. Sure enough...I had know real thump in the chest. WORKED as described!!! I thought about getting rid of the 3.3's several times, but in no way would I consider getting rid of the mbm's...maybe the 3.3's just can't deliver that thump in the 50hz range. I then went and used my buddies mfw's in place of the 3.3 and had the same result...no chest pounding when the mbm's were off.

I was skeptical but if you can put them nearfield...they work like a charm. I tried putting them in front with the mains (not nearfield), and just didn't get what I wanted...chest pounding.
post #309 of 466
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Originally Posted by mrcoop View Post

Mine intergrated perfect...I have 2 hsu 3.3, one in the front right and one in the front left. My mbm's are next to the listening position. I experminted with the set up with WOW emergence scene when the pavement cracks. I treid it with the 3.3 with lfe set to in (crossover at 50) and the mbm's set to out (crossover 100 via the receiver). MAJOR fist punch in the chest when the pavement cracks. I then turned off the mbm's and switched the 3.3's set to out (crossover 100 via the receiver) to see if there was really any difference. Sure enough...I had know real thump in the chest. WORKED as described!!! I thought about getting rid of the 3.3's several times, but in no way would I consider getting rid of the mbm's...maybe the 3.3's just can't deliver that thump in the 50hz range. I then went and used my buddies mfw's in place of the 3.3 and had the same result...no chest pounding when the mbm's were off.

I was skeptical but if you can put them nearfield...they work like a charm. I tried putting them in front with the mains (not nearfield), and just didn't get what I wanted...chest pounding.

Localization from the MBM's?

Bill
post #310 of 466
Wow!

I just saw 2 great deals in the forsale threads on MBMs? You guys notice them? Mia's dad pickup $250.....I wish I was out west!!!
post #311 of 466
I wish I had money now... I would take all of them oh well one day
post #312 of 466
They are "sealed". Ron wanted sealed MBM's last year so Dr. Hsu modified them for him.

Bill
post #313 of 466
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

Localization from the MBM's?

Bill

Bill, for whatever reason, sometimes I do and sometimes I do not...maybe the higher frequency is what I am noticing...I thought about dropping the crossover to 80 to see if that would help and may do that since you have said something and will probably have no ill affect on what I want to get out of the mbm's. But honestly, I will certainly live with what minor localization that may occur for the chest hitting material I am getting. I think everyones ears are different...some may like no localization...but for for me the trade off is well worth it.
post #314 of 466
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Originally Posted by mrcoop View Post

Bill, for whatever reason, sometimes I do and sometimes I do not...maybe the higher frequency is what I am noticing...I thought about dropping the crossover to 80 to see if that would help and may do that since you have said something and will probably have no ill affect on what I want to get out of the mbm's. But honestly, I will certainly live with what minor localization that may occur for the chest hitting material I am getting. I think everyones ears are different...some may like no localization...but for for me the trade off is well worth it.

Localization was too much for me. That is why I decided to run the MBM's one with each main and the HSU 3.3's co-located in the right rear corner of a 18X28X14 ft room (cathedral ceilings, lodge style). I get 107 db on GFP the skidoosh scene.

Bill
post #315 of 466
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Originally Posted by goonstopher View Post

I am sure this has been answered but I can't find it...

Can I use the speaker wires out of my mains and center and hook them up to an MBM then go out to the speakers from there?

I have 2 huge subs and could use some help with my speakers bass but don't need any LFE help.

Are you wanting to fill in between your mains and your subs? I would think a pair of MBM's high passed to your mains would do well. Then set your AVR to LFE + mains.
post #316 of 466
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Originally Posted by mjg100 View Post

Are you wanting to fill in between your mains and your subs? I would think a pair of MBM's high passed to your mains would do well. Then set your AVR to LFE + mains.

I did have my dual MBM's wired into a set of Polk Monitor 10's for awhile. Had the mains set as Plus (Pio '94 reciever) with dual HSU 3.3's. The bass was fantastic for my 6000 cu ft room. Now that I have Polk SDA SRS 2.3's, I now run the MBM's with the 3.3's and get better bass.

Bill
post #317 of 466
Anyone looking for a auralex subdude for the MGM-12. Pm me I have one for sale.
post #318 of 466
Anyone got a MBM-12 M for sale?
post #319 of 466
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Originally Posted by teknikk7 View Post

Anyone got a MBM-12 M for sale?

Check your private messages, I've put something in there for you.
post #320 of 466
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Originally Posted by teknikk7 View Post

Anyone got a MBM-12 M for sale?

I have 2 of them that I would consider selling for 350 ea plus shipping.

Bill
post #321 of 466
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

I have 2 of them that I would consider selling for 350 ea plus shipping.

Bill

you're getting rid of your mbm's...?

what's up??
post #322 of 466
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Originally Posted by lefthandluke View Post

you're getting rid of your mbm's...?

what's up??

I currently have dual A7S-450's and my mains are Polk SDA SRS 2.3's. For proper calibration in running the MBM's with the mains, they are calibrated the same as the mid bass in the SDA's. They add somewhat to the mid bass, but not enough to really justify the cost of the MBM's. I did try to run the MBM's with the 450's, but I didn't like the mix of bass that I got. I prefer the 450's SQ for movies over that of the MBM's mid bass. I was really going for output not SQ with movies and the 450's do deliver that. So, if someone really wants/needs a pair of MBM's at my price, then they are for sale.

Bill
post #323 of 466
FYI, the MBM-12 MK2 will be available for purchase by early next week.

Standard finish is Satin Black, and luxury finishes are Real Wood Veneer Walnut/Rosenut/Espresso/Maple...
post #324 of 466
Pete,

How is it different from the original?
post #325 of 466
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Pete,

How is it different from the original?

It is still ported or can be sealed with a port plug and comes with different finishes. The amp and driver are the same as the original. This is stated on the HSU forum as well as here on prior posts.
post #326 of 466
What happens if you don't have room to place the mbm behind the couch? Will it work in another corner? Im thinking of buying the mbm.
post #327 of 466
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Pete,

How is it different from the original?

Jim, the MBM-12 MK2 has a new operating mode switch so that one can run it in either 'Sealed' or 'Ported' mode simply by adding or removing a supplied 4" foam port plug, and flipping the switch on the amp.

The advantage of the 'Sealed' mode is that the MBM rolloff will match the 24db/oct low-pass slope on our true subwoofers. So when the MBM is close or next to the true subwoofer, blending between the two should be improved. The advantage of the 'Ported' mode is that driver excursion demands are reduced, and there is a bit more output at some frequencies.

And as bsoko mentioned, the MBM-12 MK2 uses a nicer standard Satin Black finish (with "seamless" enclosure design), and will be available in several luxury finishes too (Real Wood Veneer Rosenut/Walnut/Espresso/Maple)...
post #328 of 466
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Originally Posted by AvGeek07 View Post

What happens if you don't have room to place the mbm behind the couch? Will it work in another corner? Im thinking of buying the mbm.

AvGeek, if you don't have space in the nearfield, then you can always place the MBM right next to the true subwoofer!
post #329 of 466
For my next speaker upgrade, I'm thinking of going with a pair of awesome bookshelves, sitting on top of a pair of MBM's at the front. Any of you have such an arrangement? Which bookshelf speakers? How do you like it?
post #330 of 466
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Originally Posted by hdmi4ever View Post

For my next speaker upgrade, I'm thinking of going with a pair of awesome bookshelves, sitting on top of a pair of MBM's at the front. Any of you have such an arrangement? Which bookshelf speakers? How do you like it?

Yes, I have done this in the past. Used the MBM for mid bass down to 50hz and then crossed the LFE at 50 hz for the true sub. This worked very well and was enjoyable. Needed more so when with what I have now.

Bill
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