Official AV123/Onix Owners Thread: TECHNICAL TALK ONLY - Page 54

Originally Posted by requestdrew

I purchased a pair of 850s and a Bigfoot a few weeks ago. Customer service was very good. It took a couple days for the rep to respond to my original email, but once contact was established, the experience was very good. This purchase was done completely via email.

The speakers are gorgeous and they sound fantastic! They're almost too nice... My wife and I are so nervous about something happening to them. My previous speakers were Sonys, so this was a BIG upgrade. I now know what the term "laid back" means. It's a very pleasing sound. I purchased these speakers based on reading message boards. I did not do any in-person auditions with any brand. Somebody posted that a great speaker should leave you always wanting to turn it up. This is true with my new Rockets. They get VERY loud, but seem to always be able to take more. The bass is fantastic too. I've realized that my Sonys were very bland. Everything sounded the same. The Rockets are more true to the music.

The first song I listened to was Dogs by Pink Floyd. I was expecting to be hit hard in the chest when the bass drum kicks in, but I wasn't. I then listened to I Can't Wait by Outkast. Damn! Great bass! I'm thinking that the Rockets were true to how Dogs was mixed in the 70's because they have LOTS of punch. I have a pair of KLH subwoofers. The bass out of the rockets is MUCH better. I've now set my subwoofer settings to LFE only. Another song I listened to when I first hooked up the rockets was New Frontier by Donald Fagen. I think this song has very exaggerated highs. What was extremely fatiguing with my Sonys now sounds great on my Rockets.

I purchased a pair of ELT525Ms on Black Friday. This purchase was all via the web. A very good experience once again. I haven't taken them out of the box yet.

Originally Posted by auburnu008

I currently have 850's for mains and a bigfoot as my center. I am about to move and will have a bigger dedicated theater room with a AT screen so I will be able to mount my speakers behind the screen. I was thinking of replacing the bigfoot with another 850 to have matching LCR's. Any reason not to do this and would it be worth it to do it? Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by calnbs

Does anyone have any idea how well the X-voce center will match the x-omni? I wanted to test out the X-voce with my Rockets so I bought a B stock one just to see if I like it. Incase I don't like it, I was thinking of pairing them up with my 4 X-omni. If the X-omni doesn't pair well, I guess I can always get the x-statik later on.

Originally Posted by cdy2179

I almost went with the X-statiks myself when I got my Rockets... My wife wasn't to found of their look. I've heard great thinks about them.

From what I've gathered from one Previous Rocket owner who also has several threads for speaker shootouts told me he prefered the X-tatiks as they are more forward and projected detail almost like horns... which is great for movies... I would assume the X-voce is different in this way as well as it's designed to match the X-statiks.

Originally Posted by etcarroll

Considering recent events, shouldn't ONIX be broken out to it's own thread?

Originally Posted by OnixMan

I'm all for it.

Originally Posted by Mike_WI

Hugh -

Can you start it or is that verbotten as you are a distributor?
If you don't, preferably someone that owns some Onix stuff would be best -- and that can maintain active links/FAQs (siimilar to the Oppo threads).

Mike

Originally Posted by Mike_WI

It's an interesting thread title since Onix is no longer owned/sold by av123.

There are threads at av123 and TCA discussing this.

Mike

Originally Posted by Pure-Evil

um...what do you mean no longer sold by them? isn't the entire ROCKET line made with the "ONIX" name on them?

Originally Posted by Mike_WI

Some links:

Most useful -- LINK - av123 thread I started with responses from MLS, etc.
forums -dot- av123 -dot- com/showthread.php?t=40343
replace -dot- with a "."

HTS thread (I started)

TCA general thread on av123 forum

New av123 forum site link - LINK
---------------------------------
MLS response (1-11-09) in first link thread above (post #38):
(bold added)
forums -dot- av123 -dot- com/showpost.php?p=722759&postcount=38
replace -dot- with a "."

"Good Afternoon...

Very basic reply for now - and perhaps later a more detailed one...

ONIX belongs to Mr. Pu - I am however 50% owner of this brand in America. Mr. Pu came to me some time back as he told me he wanted to sell his brand to a famous Chinese Company (yes, I know who it is - but I'm not saying as I promised I would not)... I told Pu he should do it - and forget about my ownership in the brand here... He should GO FOR IT...

ONIX is Mr. Pu's brand

Rocket is the property of av123 (always has been - always will be)...

Strata is the property of av123 - but we allowed SAC to build a special version with a second tweeter for their markets...

UL/UF - av123

I also completely agreed that we would not sell ONIX electronics this year... With the x-series electronics we are now in that market - and our focus will continue to be on x... We will also have our own CD Players this year - as well as our NMT (Network Media Tank)... We were owed some replacements and such - and that has been taken care of. There are a few pieces of business still open - but these will be closed off soon...

My best always to Pu and this brand...

The rest I'll leave for another time...

Best...

mls"

and

"Rocket boxes no longer have the ONIX logo - and they haven't had this for many months...

Best...

mls"

and

"Rocket II belong solely to av123 as do LS as noted above...

x-series is of course the property of av123...

RSL II is owned by 4 guys (I'm one of them)... [IMG]http://forums.**********/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]

Best...

mls"

and from me...

"In response to a post (now deleted?) commenting/asking about Onix England.

This is what is on the Onix catalog...

Onix England
Onix Electronics Co, Ltd from England"


Does that help.


-- Mike

PS - EDIT to delete broken (by AVS) links.
See link above and follow thread. post #38 is first MLS comment

Originally Posted by grey9hound

No,
The links are broken.

Originally Posted by Mike_WI

Argh.
I tried to delete and add ways to access links.
I did "cut and paste" some of the more pertinent stuff in case people didn't want to follow the thread and all the links.

Here is the main start of comments:
forums -dot- av123 -dot- com/showpost.php?p=722759&postcount=38
replace -dot- with a "."

Hopefully that now helps.
I do think this is of potential interest to people.


Mike

Originally Posted by Mike_WI

Hugh -

Can you start it or is that verbotten as you are a distributor?
If you don't, preferably someone that owns some Onix stuff would be best -- and that can maintain active links/FAQs (siimilar to the Oppo threads).

Mike

Originally Posted by OnixMan

Mike,

Per forum guidelines, I can't start it.

It has to be an Onix owner.

Originally Posted by Mike_WI

Do "Onix Rockets" count?
I'm not sure if those are/were Onix or Rockets?
The MLS quote (above) would suggest the "Onix Rockets" were av123 Rockets.

Mike

Originally Posted by OnixMan

Mike,

To be clear and as far as I know, Onix is Mr. Pu's and Rockets is av123's.
There is NO Onix Rockets.

Originally Posted by OnixMan

Mike,

To be clear and as far as I know, Onix is Mr. Pu's and Rockets is av123's.
There is NO Onix Rockets.

Originally Posted by woofersus

And to take that a step further, just for the record, the rockets, the mini's, and everything X-series are AV123 owned designs and not Onix, despite the fact that the labels for a while said Onix. The reference series speakers, onix branded electronics, cables, and various onix branded accessories were and still are owned by Onix.

A lot of people have been confused primarily because AV123 called the rockets Onix Rockets for a while, but there are also a few who have x-series stuff that says Onix on the back.

Originally Posted by etcarroll

Considering recent events, shouldn't ONIX be broken out to it's own thread?

Originally Posted by jmalto

Sorry to bring this one back from the dead, especially with the sad news of AV123, but does anyone remember how to convert the RS300 from dipole to bipole? I just picked up another set and I want to swap them so they play in-phase.

Originally Posted by quadriverfalls

You could contact Sean Parque with Skiing Ninja. He worked for AV123 for quite some time and probably did some of those exact mods. in any case, he'll know for certain what to do and I'm sure, would be happy to help.

Originally Posted by jmalto

Great minds think a like John

Originally Posted by jmalto

Sorry to bring this one back from the dead, especially with the sad news of AV123, but does anyone remember how to convert the RS300 from dipole to bipole? I just picked up another set and I want to swap them so they play in-phase.

Originally Posted by Rijax

Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by jmalto

So is that saying to just cross the wires going to the 1 negative tweeter and that is it? I thought it was more involved then that but if not, good news

I wonder if you have to de-solder the ends or not to do it.

Originally Posted by Rijax

To clarify, if the speaker you want to change has an odd serial number (ends in 1,3,5,7,9), reverse the leads to the tweeter on the right as you face the front of the speaker (marked by a "-" in the diagram).

If the speaker you want to change has as even serial number (ends in 2,4,6,8,0), reverse the leads to the tweeter on the left as you face the front of the speaker (marked by a "-" in the diagram).

But you must perform this change on each RSS300 you want to convert to bipolar.

Originally Posted by tdogroeder

So doing this will make a dipole speaker into a true bipole?

Originally Posted by jwb474

Actually, the RSS300s as shipped are "adaptive dipole", that is only the tweeter on the "-" sides are wired out of phase. The 2 woofers and the tweeter on the "+" side are all wired in phase.