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post #31 of 1537
I will be comparing it to my brand new 37" Sharp that I just bought from Costco last weekend, hopefully the sceptre will be on par with the Sharp though I doubt it
post #32 of 1537
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Originally Posted by webaccount View Post

I will be comparing it to my brand new 37" Sharp that I just bought from Costco last weekend, hopefully the sceptre will be on par with the Sharp though I doubt it

yeah, i was thinking the same thing....just got the 37" Sharp, but this 42" is soooooooo tempting.
post #33 of 1537
After reviewing the thread on the 37" Komodo, I ended up canceling my order. Just didn't seem worth the trouble to have to return it especially since the 37" Sharp is so nice.
post #34 of 1537
I dont think this is the same animal as the 32 or 37" TV. Those units were brought out last year. This appears to be a new model for the new year.
post #35 of 1537
The specs of the 37 and the 42 are completely different, I wouldn't have bought the 42 if its specs was the same as the 37, for one the contrast ratio is way up on the 42 and the response time is 6ms instead of 8ms and that suggests the 42 is using a different panel (and make?) than the 37

Under Video functions you will find that it has most of Faroudja video processing technologies, the 37" has none, the 37 only has sourround sound, the 42 has the second ganeration SRS TrueSurround XT, 37" has 2 speakers, 42" has 4 speakers


Notice that the 42 Komodo is the only one with Faroudja DCDi, not even the 1080P 42"-Naga has Faroudja DCDi

Basically with Faroudja DCDi watching non-HD sources will be a joy


37' specs

42" Specs

1080P 42" Naga Specs
post #36 of 1537
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Originally Posted by webaccount View Post

The specs of the 37 and the 42 are completely different, I wouldn't have bought the 42 if its specs was the same as the 37, for one the contrast ratio is way up on the 42 and the response time is 6ms instead of 8ms and that suggests the 42 is using a different panel (and make?) than the 37

Under Video functions you will find that it has most of Faroudja video processing technologies, the 37" has none, the 37 only has sourround sound, the 42 has the second ganeration SRS TrueSurround XT, 37" has 2 speakers, 42" has 4 speakers


Notice that the 42 Komodo is the only one with Faroudja DCDi, not even the 1080P 42"-Naga has Faroudja DCDi

Basically with Faroudja DCDi watching non-HD sources will be a joy


37' specs

42" Specs

so, the 42" Spectre is better than the 37" Sharp then?
post #37 of 1537
This is really tempting. I have been considering the Olevia 542i from buydig or newegg.... If I purchase online and have issues within the 90 day period, can I return it to my local Costco rather than packing it up and shipping it back?


Never mind. From the site:

How to Return: Simply return your purchase at any one of our Costco warehouses worldwide for a refund (including shipping and handling). If you are unable to return your order at one of our warehouses, please email customerservice or call our customer service center at 1-800-955-2292 for assistance. To expedite the processing of your return, please reference your order number.


Ordering one tomorrow.
post #38 of 1537
I wouldn't say so, Spectre panels are mostly taiwan made panels and the 37" Sharp panel is made by Sharp itself since this is mostly subjective you can only tell when you have the two next to each other and then the one you like best is the better one


Looks like the 37" Komodo panel is made by Chimei
post #39 of 1537
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Originally Posted by cdouthart View Post

This is really tempting. I have been considering the Olevia 542i from buydig or newegg.... If I purchase online and have issues within the 90 day period, can I return it to my local Costco rather than packing it up and shipping it back?


Correct
post #40 of 1537
I wasn't really going so much by the specs, but the reputation of Spectre and the Komodo series. If you guys get it and find out its a great screen, I may go back and purchase it, but going to hold off for now.
post #41 of 1537
Very tempted. I have the 32" komodo, and although it's probably an entirely different panel/processor, the picture quality is great for the price. The only fault I give it is lag on composite inputs and weak remote response. I am guessing with this set, the processing for the composites will also be entirely different.

The change in costco return policy does make me more hesitant to buy sceptre or vizio though. The 2 year warranty is nice, but nothing beats being able to just return it at the store. Hopefully any defects will show up within 90 days.
post #42 of 1537
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Originally Posted by scottman View Post

Very tempted. I have the 32" komodo, and although it's probably an entirely different panel/processor, the picture quality is great for the price. The only fault I give it is lag on composite inputs and weak remote response. I am guessing with this set, the processing for the composites will also be entirely different.

The change in costco return policy does make me more hesitant to buy sceptre or vizio though. The 2 year warranty is nice, but nothing beats being able to just return it at the store. Hopefully any defects will show up within 90 days.


I think you misunderstood Costco new policy, if your TV set is defective anytime within the 2 years you can return it back to Costco, the 90 days only means that if it's not defective then you can't return it

I live in SoCal so I'm close to quite a few Costco stores, if I don;t like it then all it costs me is 2 bucks of gas and 1 hr of my time



here's some interesting reading

Samsung places flat panel orders with Chi Mei Optoelectronics

This makes you wonder if the price difference you pay for top-tier panels is justified
post #43 of 1537
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Originally Posted by webaccount View Post

I think you misunderstood Costco new policy, if your TV set is defective anytime within the 2 years you can return it back to Costco, the 90 days only means that if it's not defective then you can't return it

I live in SoCal so I'm close to quite a few Costco stores, if I don;t like it then all it costs me is 2 bucks of gas and 1 hr of my time



here's some interesting reading

Samsung places flat panel orders with Chi Mei Optoelectronics

This makes you wonder if the price difference you pay for top-tier panels is justified

I think you can only return it during the 2 years to get it repaired or replaced at their discretion. You can't just return it for a full refund if you notice something defective and want to stay clear from that model in the future.

I'm not surprised about the chi mei story you linked. Extreme videophiles might be able to point out differences, but I think the average consumer couldn't tell the difference in PQ if they covered up the badges on some of the lower tier sets. But I would say the major brands usually have better QC and less operational quirks, though. When the prices are hundreds or thousands lower, the quirks seem more acceptable.
post #44 of 1537
You are right in that top-tier makers enforce higher quality assurance
post #45 of 1537
Has anyone been able to compare this Sceptre to the Olevia 542i? They are in similar price ranges. On paper, the Sceptre seems to have better specs (contrast, response time, etc.) but does that translate into better real world performance?

How are the blacks and shadow details of the 2 sets? How about color? Does the response time make a difference? How does SD on these 2 sets compare?

Thanks
post #46 of 1537
How would you compare this Sceptre to the 42" Vizio LCD GV42L? I'm looking at getting one and the Sceptre at $200 less is very tempting.
post #47 of 1537
Here is what I asked Sceptre CS:

Where can I locate a manual for the X42GV-Komodo that is on sale in Costco?
I want to know if I can get a PIP PC as primary & OTA TV digital as secondary source.
Also, why does it say 1080P? Will it accept 1080P via PC & downscale to 1360 x 768?


Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting us. Regarding your questions,

1) A manual would be included with your package. We do not provide separate manual for our customers.
2) Yes, you can get a PIP PC as primary & OTA TV digital as secondary source.
3) Because the TV can take in true 1080p signal and display it at 1080p at 1920x1080 progressive.
4) Yes, it will accept 1080p via PC and downscale to 1360x768. It won't be as clear.

We apologize for your inconvenience. Thank you for your understanding.

Best Regards,
Sceptre Technical Support Group
post #48 of 1537
at answer to #3.
post #49 of 1537
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Originally Posted by SgtBulldog View Post

at answer to #3.


I was thinking the same thing, what the *&^%* was he talking about

I would never buy Sceptre online or from a place that won't accept return because honestly I have little faith in their products and seeing support answers like this scares me even more
post #50 of 1537
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Originally Posted by webaccount View Post

I would never buy Sceptre online or from a place that won't accept return because honestly I have little faith in their products and seeing support answers like this scares me even more


Well I would not let the email scare you. I had some bad tech support from top companies. I just want to see if the X42GV-KOMDO is a good TV. The worse thing that can happen is to return it to Costco. The TV is not that heavy according to the specs.
post #51 of 1537
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Originally Posted by SgtBulldog View Post

at answer to #3.


don't get excited, EVERY 720p TV will always accept 1080p content no matter what & downscale it.
post #52 of 1537
I bought this TV purely on its specs and honestly I don't expect it to be on par with Sharp or Samsung or Sony but as long as the (SD) PQ is decent then I'm happy

Can't wait till it arrives
post #53 of 1537
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Originally Posted by wtfer View Post

don't get excited, EVERY 720p TV will always accept 1080p content no matter what & downscale it.


Downscaling is usually not a problem, it's upscaling that poses a challenge and this is why you would want something like Faroudja to smooth out all the artifacts
post #54 of 1537
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Originally Posted by wtfer View Post

don't get excited, EVERY 720p TV will always accept 1080p content no matter what & downscale it.

That wasn't a smiley of excitement, but one of incredulity.
post #55 of 1537
Like Webaccount, I also bought this TV because of the specs. When it does arrive, I will put it through a series of test. A few things that I would like to see is how it handles SD, HD, PC via VGA, PC via DVI-HDMI, and PS3.

Like the Sharp for some of you, I don't expect the TV to be just as good as the 62" Mitsubishi that I have downstairs. If it ends up a good flatscreen, I'll end up keeping it and use it in the bedroom as a TV/Computer monitor. If not, I will probably give it to my parents.

If there is any other test that any of you want see let me know and I will see if I have time or the resource to do it.

By the way my girlfriend thinks that I am crazy to have a computer monitor that big since my face is only 2-3' from the screen. I guess she's right. It's gonna be like IMAX.
post #56 of 1537
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Originally Posted by waverider01 View Post

If there is any other test that any of you want see let me know and I will see if I have time or the resource to do it.


look for banding & clouding.

If you don't know what they look like I will post a few pics for you to see.
post #57 of 1537
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Originally Posted by wtfer View Post

look for banding & clouding.

If you don't know what they look like I will post a few pics for you to see.


That would be great. Please post them.
post #58 of 1537
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Originally Posted by waverider01 View Post

Like Webaccount, I also bought this TV because of the specs. When it does arrive, I will put it through a series of test. A few things that I would like to see is how it handles SD, HD, PC via VGA, PC via DVI-HDMI, and PS3.

Like the Sharp for some of you, I don't expect the TV to be just as good as the 62" Mitsubishi that I have downstairs. If it ends up a good flatscreen, I'll end up keeping it and use it in the bedroom as a TV/Computer monitor. If not, I will probably give it to my parents.

If there is any other test that any of you want see let me know and I will see if I have time or the resource to do it.

By the way my girlfriend thinks that I am crazy to have a computer monitor that big since my face is only 2-3' from the screen. I guess she's right. It's gonna be like IMAX.

When are you receiving the set? Post some pics of the remote & let us know if it's backlit.
post #59 of 1537
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Originally Posted by jassiji View Post

When are you receiving the set? Post some pics of the remote & let us know if it's backlit.


I'm a little curious about the remote. I never bought a Sceptre before. Based on the threads from the other models. The remotes are kind of cheap. Since this is the first of the new models this year. I'm hoping that Sceptre worked on all the bugs from last year. If not I can always use the spare universal remote. I was told that Sceptre uses Sony codes.
post #60 of 1537
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Originally Posted by waverider01 View Post

I'm a little curious about the remote. I never bought a Sceptre before. Based on the threads from the other models. The remotes are kind of cheap. Since this is the fist og the new models this year. I'm hoping that Sceptre worked on all the bugs from last year. If not I can always use the spare universal remote. I was told that Sceptre uses Sony codes.

My 32 inch komodo came with a crappy basic remote but the remote for my old sony worked fine. The biggest problem is the IR receiver for the Sceptre 32. The thing has terrible range and is very finicky. I hope they fixed this problem and that Sony codes work. It's gonna be very interesting comparing the two models side by side.......
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