Infinity Beta Owners - Page 6

80hz, after a lot of experimenting and reading...

It really depends on your room and setup, the 50's have some pretty insane 40Hz output in my room due to a peak at my lp. The problem with 80Hz (and don't ask THX to admit to this) is that often times the sub does become locatable, if we had the room and design to properly implement a sub, it likely would not be an issue, however, on planet earth, it often times is.

refurbished beta c360 and beta 20 are working great.

Changed the wiring, replaced old receiver(onkyo 304 $160.00) with Onkyo 674 ($700), added SVS PB 10 ($500).

The setup is working great.

Woot, glad to hear!

What are you guys using as amps/receivers? I'm currently using a Onkyo Sr-503 and the sound is a little bright on the treble side compared to my Denon PMA-757 from the 80's. I'm considering getting a Marantz. Any input?

I currently own some primus speakers and have been disappointed with the looks of the newer primus models. therefore, i won't be adding more primus speakers.

So........i was wondering if the Beta's are expecting to be replace with newer models or not. the silverish grill on the Beta's are not wowing me either but at least they are made of metal and so repainting them won't be a problem for me.



Anyone know?

They announced the Classia Series at CES that will replace the Beta's. I've done many searches but have yet to find any pics. Can someone post a link to some photos of these new speakers?

BTW, I'm using a Harman/Kardon AVR 340 with the 20's and c250 up front. Not harsh sounding at all. I demo'd several receivers and found the H/K had the best sound for my room and budget.

Beta ES250

Planning to buy beta ES250. Confused. Should I buy new or refurbished will be as good. Any suggestion. Thanks.

I bought a pair of Beta 10's refurbed from HK direct and another pair from Fry's. they sound the same and are in equally excellent cosmetic condtion. If they're defective, theres plenty of time under the warranty and just send em back

Have any of you guys wall mounted the beta 10's or 20's? I have beta 50's and a 360 upfront and I want to add beta 10's for my surrounds and rears but they have to be wall mounted and I was worried about the rear ports.

You can get omni mounts for them, they handle the weight and get the speaker away from the wall

Thanks I think I'll try them. I saw the omnimounts but the ones that will hold that much weight seem to keep them pretty close to the wall. I wasn't sure if it would be far enough away. If not I guess I could always build something to get them farther out there.

I've had the Infinity Beta 360 center channel for a while now. Yesterday I got my pair of 50s in and all I can say is wow! They sound very good and can really put out some bass.

Paid retail for the 360 a couple of years ago and got the pair of 50's direct from HK (their ebay site) for about the orginal price of the 360 (heck of a deal). They look like new and came in factory boxes. Gonna try and get some of the ES250s soon.

Thought I'd let you folks know I joined the club.

Rob

I am interested in a pair of the 50s for fronts, and later on the 360 as a center - are these more for movies or music... also, I am on the 3rd/top floor of an apt, and I am concerned with the bass driving my neighbors crazy. Would these be a bad choice -see too much bass. I am more concerned with precise sound than thumping bass.

Cnet loved them. The first post has a link to another review.

I did a lot of testing last night with mine (both 2 channel stereo and with 5.1 movies), and think they are good for both. I turned the subwoofer off just to hear what the 50s would do and they surprised me. With the volume at the upper end of my listening level, I could feel the bass. The reviews I read say they are a good speaker even if they cost twice as much (retail).

Rob

Merkord,

You should try researching the Beta 40's. They're also exeptional speakers and the sound of those vary quite from the Beta 50's. Of course, with the smaller woofers they produce less bass. IMO, i prefer the Beta 40's with a good subwoofer. You should check out the thread Infinty speakers and the best bang for your buck (ya it's supposed to be misspelled)

If you like bass and action movies, you might prefer to have the 50s...quoting plhart who was involved in the design of the Beta line:

"The greater 80Hz acoustic output of two 8-inch woofers vs. two 6.5" woofers working into the same size room tends to sound like you have "better" bass. You simply have more acoustic output at the same frequency which sounds to most folks like a better and more seamless match to the acoustic output of the subwoofer. Said another way, you're feeling more sound pressure at the same 80Hz with the 50s vs. the 40s.

The particular Top Gun steadystate jet engine cuts toward the movie's beginning which I've mentioned requires tons of acoustic output from 30Hz to 200Hz. A lot of 5.25" and 6" systems I've tried with this cut are driven wildly out of their voice coil gaps, often slamming the mid-woofer's spider against the speaker's top plate. It's not a pretty sound..."

When I cut the 50s in and out of the mix you can tell that they add a lot to the overall bass sound...

Did anyone of you order your speakers from http://www.bestpriceaudiovideo.com/ ? How did that work out?

I just picked up my pair of 50's (cherry) from harmanaudio on ebay for just a little more than one speaker on that site. The other source usually recommended is theaudiovideosource. Both carry the full line of beta's (maybe not the subwoofers).

I don't see them listed on harmanaudio's web site, just their ebay store. theaudiovideosource lists them on their web site and their ebay store.

Both of these sources are infinity authorized, so you get the full 5 yr warranty. It says the speakers are refurbished, but they looked brand new to me and came in original boxes. And trust me I looked for imperfections.

I'm not trying to push those places, but my deal went down with no problems and thought you should know your options.

Rob

That's great to hear. Of course, for a real movie experience you can't do without a sub. Theres no need to get an Infinity Subwoofer. Mixing brands with subwoofers should pose no problem to integrate the sound. I myself have a SVS PB10 and it sounds fantastic

did you get the center channel from them also? thinking about this route as well. thanks

I got a pair of the 50s, a pair of the ES250s, and a c360 from audiovideosource (all refurbished) and I have no complaints...the speakers were in perfect condition and in perfect working order, also, a refurbished onkyo receiver I bought back in middle school and used every day is now being used by one of my neighbors...still good as new...

No, I paid retail for the center a year or 2 ago at ultimate electronics. My mains were some really nice honey oak towers I made yrs ago. But since they were not voice matched to the center, I finally broke down and replaced them with the beta 50's. Movies sound a lot better now and my brother jumped on the opportunity to give my DIY towers a good home.

After my experience with harmanaudio, I'd recommend ordering from them.

Rob

I am in the process of constructing a room which is 18x14.5x8.5 with two rows of seating. I have Beta 50 fronts and plan to get a C360 center and ES250 rear speakers.

With a 7.1 receiver, what would be the best configuration for the ES250s? One pair of ES250s on the side walls handling the side and rear signals, two ES250s on the sides and one in back, or two on the sides and two in back? I planned on four, but I'm not sure if that's overkill.

4 es250s can do some really nice effects, is your second row against the back wall or is there a space behind it so that you will have room for the rears to disperse? If you have 3' or so of room behind the seats then you will be golden for 4 surrounds, if not, I'd just get two and put them on the sides. I also would set your receiver to duplicate the surrounds signal and feed them from two separate channels, this will double your input power.

I'm running 2 B50s and a C360 in the front, 2 B50s for the sides, and A50s for the rear. The betas were all bought from Harmanaudio's ebay store, the Alphas when CC closed them out. I love them all . If you have the budget, I REALLY like using the towers for your surrounds.