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post #2011 of 2330
Here's about the going rate for local pickup. Shipping will just add to it.

Beta-50's with scratches, 325/pr
Beta-c360 in good condition 200
Beta-20's in good condition 120/pr

So that's right in line with what Stevensctt said. I would at least start at 650-700 though. Even though there's no sub, it's a turn-key timbre* matched speaker set, of which HTiB has no competition at any price.

What's sad is that new, that system would have been $1500 if you got a good price for them. And for $650, it's a killer setup! I know because I have the same setup minus the c360. I use a B-20 in its place.

*I use that term "timbre" loosely because if it were truly timbre matched, there would be no sonic difference between the B-50 and B-20, but there certainly is a difference.
post #2012 of 2330
that's about right for the 20's....I bought mine about 3 years ago...paid 130 + 40 shipping
post #2013 of 2330
I guess I just better hang on to them at this point. I do love my setup It is just a bit big for my little livingroom.
post #2014 of 2330
August 31, 2010

well, I got my IL30's today from california...they are in incredible shape...near mint...

haven't listened yet....i will post comparisons in sound between the beta 20's

cloth covered plastic grills are real cheap and flimsy though...but they do look great

the smaller square base on the bottom does seem to make it a bit unstable...wouldn't be hard to knock them over (at least on carpet)...since it does have screw holes in the bottom i put my own spikes in the base...problem solved

you can see a great side by side comparison, in the third photo

all in all, a good deal for $100 + $50 shipping

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post #2015 of 2330
look what I just won!

with 20 seconds left I bid 130....

the bidding was showing 99 ( he was the first and only bidder)
.....but his high bid was 108, he then bid 128...time ran out

http://cgi.ebay.com/Infinity-Interlu...item255d34a0cc

now i have a beta c250 to sell I hope to get $89

If i keep adding interludes, do I get kicked out of this forum?
post #2016 of 2330
Nice price - that's a solid speaker that will last for years.

Since the Interludes don't have their own forum thread I suppose this is the place for us Interlude owners to hang/brag over Interludes.

How's the IL30s working out for you?
post #2017 of 2330
well, I have only tried them out briefly as I re-arrange the furniture....right now as an experiment in tone matching....I am watching tv with the IL30 as the left and the beta 20 as the right...I have the sub crossed at 80hz....they sound like the same speaker.

What I like most and I have to admit strangely about the c250 is how clear voices are at medium or lower levels...before that I was using an entra center...as good as that was I could really hear how much smoother and more open the c250 is...I hope that I will be even more impressed with the 36c...

I think I actually like the look of the interludes better with the beveled edge and the cloth grills.


now I have some speakers to sell...craigslist...maybe ebay

entra center
beta c250 center
rs1 speakers
post #2018 of 2330
post #2019 of 2330
got the 36c....this is one big beast of a speaker....I haven't tried yet...have to move things around...don't want to crush my receiver

I took these pics....beta c250 vs. IL36c vs. IL30

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I know it's not part of this forum but, can anyone tell me how you post a
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post #2020 of 2330
1. Don't put speakers or anything that lays flat on top of the receiver. Not good for heat dissipation.

2. Host a picture somewhere like photobucket.com and you can post full size pictures.
post #2021 of 2330
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Originally Posted by Knucklehead90 View Post

The IL40s play the entire sound spectrum nearly flawlessly.

Yeah, I like the "nearly flawlessly" part the best. I wonder where "even more nearly flawlessly" sounds might come from. Maybe here:




A pair of these IL60s and a 36C have been the heart and soul of my HT for many years. I have no reason to doubt that, at age 62, these have become my "keepers". I listen to mostly acoustic jazz and classical music. They have never disappointed me. -3dB @ 25Hz doesn't hurt when it comes to explosions and pipe organs, either. Honestly though, if I had it to do over again I would get the 40s and do without the powered woofers. There's a lot of complicated stuff going on in these towers. Better to just have a big sub in the corner methinks.

Their predecessors, Infinity Overture 3s,



sit in my living room in a stereo only setup. Different but excellent in their own way. And one of the most beautiful speakers Infinity ever made.

Greg
post #2022 of 2330
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Originally Posted by Looneybomber View Post

1. Don't put speakers or anything that lays flat on top of the receiver. Not good for heat dissipation.



that was my attempt at humor, the 36c weighs 32lbs



Quote:
Originally Posted by Looneybomber View Post

2. Host a picture somewhere like photobucket.com and you can post full size pictures.




yeah I know you can link the photo to a webhosting site.....but others do post large photos (like the posting here)...
post #2023 of 2330
hey GLbright....how do you place large photos imbedded into your posting?

thanks
post #2024 of 2330
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Originally Posted by FloridaGregg View Post

hey GLbright....how do you place large photos imbedded into your posting?

thanks

I have an account (free) at Photobucket.com. I upload pics on my computer to their site, then copy/paste the link to the picture to my post using the little mountain symbol at the top. There may be a way to upload graphics directly to AVS, but I've never bothered to find out how. This method is convenient and relatively quick and painless.

Greg
post #2025 of 2330
you may be right, there isn't a way...i just assumed when I drag the mouse over the photo and it doesn't show a link that it was loaded directly into the posting...unlike say...on craigslist...you can click the photo and it will take you back the photo sharing site


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post #2026 of 2330
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Originally Posted by GLBright View Post

Yeah, I like the "nearly flawlessly" part the best. I wonder where "even more nearly flawlessly" sounds might come from. Maybe here:




A pair of these IL60s and a 36C have been the heart and soul of my HT for many years. I have no reason to doubt that, at age 62, these have become my "keepers". I listen to mostly acoustic jazz and classical music. They have never disappointed me. -3dB @ 25Hz doesn't hurt when it comes to explosions and pipe organs, either. Honestly though, if I had it to do over again I would get the 40s and do without the powered woofers. There's a lot of complicated stuff going on in these towers. Better to just have a big sub in the corner methinks.

Their predecessors, Infinity Overture 3s,



sit in my living room in a stereo only setup. Different but excellent in their own way. And one of the most beautiful speakers Infinity ever made.

Greg

Those IL60s are killer. I'd have bought them instead of the IL50s 9 years ago if I had known then what I know now about Interludes.

I had the IL50s for many years along with the IL40s using them as surrounds - I know - overkill for surrounds. I ended up selling the IL50s to my brother-in-law and sister and keeping the IL40s. The IL40s is the sweet spot in the Interlude lineup - they play flat from 40-20,000hz. The IL50s were a pain to place - where the subs sounded good the rest of the speaker didn't and visa versa. Frustrating to say the least - and the IL50s are big.
As much as I like my Infinity Cascade setup I've gone and changed things again. As good as the Cascades sound the IL40s are better - and not by a little. I A/Bed them for a week and have decided to go back to Interludes for the front sound-stage. Sooo....I picked up a black (matches my IL40s) mint IL36c tonight on ebay for $114! Killer deal.

Now I've got one Cascade Three V speaker to sell. I'm using the Fives in the bedroom two channel with a sub and the other 2 Three Vs as surrounds. Works out great! The Cascades sound great - but the Interludes are the best speakers I've owned bar none.

Hmm...seems the Beta forum has morphed into the Interlude forum.
post #2027 of 2330
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Originally Posted by Knucklehead90 View Post

I picked up a black mint IL36c tonight on ebay for $114! Killer deal.

congratulations...I was watching that ebay llisting....I'm curious what was the shipping?....they wanted $35 to ship it here

I have to ask....where you the other bidder on 36c that I won?



I have it set up in sort of a temporary way..on the front of my tv stand (22")..I have a feeling I will probably like it better closer to the wall. I can't get over, how much you can hear the difference even with just tv....LENO sounded muddy and even a bit veiled....LETTERMAN...crystal clear and more extended highs...
post #2028 of 2330
I wasn't the other bidder but I very well could have had Harman Audio not screwed up. I had 'won' an IL36c from them - only to find out too late to bid on the one you won that Harman didn't have that speaker - they'd made a mistake. Worked for me as I got this one for $114 + 35$ shipping and the seller described it as mint - the pics look very good. Sometimes things work out for the best.

It's too bad that people don't know how good these old Interlude speakers sound - but we'd get blown out of every auction if they did. That pair of IL40s some seller has been trying to sell for $500/offer for a few months look good. You can't buy a pair of new towers that sound this good for that price.

I think I'm done shopping for speakers for a long time. I could have stopped 9 years ago when I bought the IL40s and IL50s - but I just 'gotta' try out something new. Trouble is I keep coming back to my IL40s and they just keep sounding great.
post #2029 of 2330
Hey, what's going on here. I step away from my desk and Beta talk turns into Interlude talk.

The last time I heard any Interlude speakers was years ago at a party with some IL60's. They sounded pretty good, but I was also some drinking games, so...
post #2030 of 2330
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Originally Posted by Knucklehead90 View Post

I wasn't the other bidder but I very well could have had Harman Audio not screwed up. I had 'won' an IL36c from them - only to find out too late to bid on the one you won that Harman didn't have that speaker - they'd made a mistake.

Did you file a complaint with ebay? Did they offer you an alternative?






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Originally Posted by Knucklehead90 View Post

It's too bad that people don't know how good these old Interlude speakers sound - but we'd get blown out of every auction if they did. That pair of IL40s some seller has been trying to sell for $500/offer for a few months look good. You can't buy a pair of new towers that sound this good for that price.

I suppose, but I still think that is a bit too high for the marketplace considering shipping is 100and if you look at one of the woofers the surround has what looks like a worn or bleached out spot. I wonder how well they were taken care of? Not that it will effect the sound. That's the great thing about the cmmd drives; they are almost indestructable. But you can get a pair of beta 50s for less
post #2031 of 2330
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Originally Posted by Looneybomber View Post

Hey, what's going on here. I step away from my desk and Beta talk turns into Interlude talk.

The last time I heard any Interlude speakers was years ago at a party with some IL60's. They sounded pretty good, but I was also some drinking games, so...

The IL60s are a great sounding speaker whether you are drinking or not. The IL50s are similar in that they also have subs built into the towers - in essence the IL50s are the same as the IL30 with a sub attached. The IL40s are the best (IMO) of the Interludes - & no sub to deal with.

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Originally Posted by FloridaGregg View Post

Did you file a complaint with ebay? Did they offer you an alternative?

I didn't have to do that - they issued me a refund and also sent me a certificate for 30% off at their online retail store. I informed them I'd rather have 30% off one of their auctions but haven't received a reply to that yet. All those prices on the online stores can be routinely beat at Amazon and B&H.
post #2032 of 2330
sure, where was this guy a few weeks ago?

in the tampa craigslist....




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Infinity IL50 - $200 (Brandon / Valrico)
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Date: 2010-09-12
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Infinity IL50's this is for the whole set. Left and Right towers and center speaker.
Upgraded and no longer have a use for them. Sounds great has a few minor
cosmetic blemishes. Great deal for the price!!!!
post #2033 of 2330
Quote:
Originally Posted by FloridaGregg View Post

sure, where was this guy a few weeks ago?

in the tampa craigslist....




http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ele/1950373401.html
Infinity IL50 - $200 (Brandon / Valrico)
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Date: 2010-09-12
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Infinity IL50's this is for the whole set. Left and Right towers and center speaker.
Upgraded and no longer have a use for them. Sounds great has a few minor
cosmetic blemishes. Great deal for the price!!!!

The only thing to watch for with the IL50s is the built in amps -- they do go bad regularly and no replacements are available that I know of. Without the subs working they are just a pair of IL30s - not that thats a bad thing.

That center looks like the IL36.
post #2034 of 2330
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knucklehead90 View Post

The only thing to watch for with the IL50s is the built in amps -- they do go bad regularly and no replacements are available that I know of. Without the subs working they are just a pair of IL30s - not that thats a bad thing.

That center looks like the IL36.


yeah I've heard that about the amp...but when you do the math I paid 130 for just the 36c

I don't think I'd want to lift those monsters or could fit them in my car...I wonder if anyone has ever removed the amp
and used the woofer as a passive radiator? might not be enough air to have a substantial effect.
post #2035 of 2330
The subwoofer chamber is separate from the 6.5" woofer which is a sealed design IIRC. An external amp would be a better remedy if an amp craps out. A Behringer E4000 would drive both sides just fine. But then you are back to the IL40s and the reason I think they are the best of the Interludes - no amps to fuss with and it has an 8" woofer vs 6.5 in the IL50 and IL60 and better low extension. Add a decent sub - and I have two of them - and the IL40s sound much better than the 50s or 60s with their internal subs. Think placement and the fact that they only play down to 32hz - fine for music but not so fine for movies.

The IL40s produce usable frequencies down to 35hz in the bedroom - not so low in the living room which is much larger and open to the dining and kitchen area. Which is where I have them now. I use an Infinity Cascade 15 sub for general listening and turn on the Elemental Designs A5-350 for thump down to 20hz.
post #2036 of 2330
I have my speakers matched with a velodyne sub..The beta 20s or the IL30's sound great with the velodyne vx-10...I know it doesn't go anywhere near 20hz...but probably flat or near flat to upper 30's...a very musical sub that blends well with the fronts....and only 189 at vanns about 3 years ago (and no tax or shipping). This was considered velodyne's entry level sub. It simply just disappears into the betas or interludes

back when I was looking for a sub, i had picked up a 99 dollar, 1/2 off 12 inch sony sub on a black friday sale...yes....it went deep for movies...it could shake things up (albeit with a bit of distortion)....i had it on for an hour when a neighbor below me complained...might have even gone a bit deeper in frequency then my velodyne.

However, when I put on music...that was a different story...one note distorted mud...blurred voices...not very pleasant to listen to.

I am much better off not trying to push my denon receiver to it's limits but rather allow the external amp in the sub handle that.
post #2037 of 2330
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Originally Posted by Knucklehead90 View Post

...you are back to the IL40s and the reason I think they are the best of the Interludes - no amps to fuss with and it has an 8" woofer vs 6.5 in the IL50 and IL60 and better low extension. Add a decent sub - and I have two of them - and the IL40s sound much better than the 50s or 60s with their internal subs. Think placement and the fact that they only play down to 32hz - fine for music but not so fine for movies.

I don't know about the "sound much better" part. I know that I have enjoyed my IL60s immensely. And I use them with a separate sub as well. I also know that if I had it to do over again I would have bought the IL-40s. I've never had any amp issues, but when or if it happens...
post #2038 of 2330
I agree with folks choosing the IL-40's over the IL-60's on principal alone. I'm not a fan of powered subs in the towers, and the reasons why have already been mentioned.

Side note: I'm close to getting my new towers built and since I've not sold my Beta-50's, they will be demoted to surround duty until sold. Heh, beta-50's as surrounds, just thinking about it makes me chuckle.


Second side note: In 3 days, I will be gone for 9 months so everything's getting packed up and placed in storage so the comment made above, is what I will do when I get back.
post #2039 of 2330
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Originally Posted by FloridaGregg View Post

yeah I've heard that about the amp...but when you do the math I paid 130 for just the 36c

I don't think I'd want to lift those monsters or could fit them in my car...I wonder if anyone has ever removed the amp
and used the woofer as a passive radiator? might not be enough air to have a substantial effect.

Most of the time when the IL50 amps crap out it is 5 cent resistor than burns out. Pretty easy fix. This has happened to one of the two IL50s I have. The IL60s are more reliable from what I can tell. Other than that one resistor my IL50s have been flawless for 10 years (knock on wood).
post #2040 of 2330
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Originally Posted by Looneybomber View Post

In 3 days, I will be gone for 9 months so everything's getting packed up and placed in storage so the comment made above, is what I will do when I get back.

military duty?

no internet where you are going I guess?


did you design those towers completely from scratch?
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