Infinity Beta Owners - Page 29

Yes, they have been discontinued. I know someone selling a used black pair in very, very good condition, original boxes and still warrantied. He has 2 50's, a c360 and wants to sell as a set. Also, he has good feedback from selling on a another forum. If youre intersted, pm me with your personal email address and I will forward it to him.

The last time I was in Ultimate Electronics, they still had a few of the Betas in stock. Probably available at a deep discount now, if they are not all gone.

I ordered the Beta20s and a c360. Any recommendations for

(a) 3 shelf TV stand for 50" plasma, with wood top shelf, that can take the c360 in the middle? Under $400?
(b) Speaker stands for Beta20s? This one comes close, although, I feel the top plate is too narrow. http://www.standsandmounts.com/index...OD&ProdID=1044

I'm using these for my Beta 20s:

http://www.standsandmounts.com/index...OD&ProdID=1655

and those top plates are even smaller. I was concerned about it too but it has been OK so far (a few months now). If you have kids or animals that may run into them you might want to velcro them on, otherwise it will probably be OK.

Looking forward to joining the BETA fam. I pulled the trigger today. I bought a pair of Beta 50's, C360 center, and 2 ES250 surrounds. I currently have a Velodyne DSP-10 sub and will be running these with an Onkyo 705 receiver.

Before purchasing these I was considering speakers from Axiom (M60 set) and Klipsch Ref series (RF-62). My father has had a set of Infinity for the last 10 years with no probs. From my experience with them and the current price point, I ultimately decided on Infinity. The only bad thing is I am in London until mid-May. I won't be able to set everything up until I get home

$99.99/each 2 or 3 weeks ago.

5.1 system with 5 matching Beta 20s would be nice.

I use black wire racks (from Lowes) that cost about 60$ + 10$ for castors. They are adjustable and work great. It is tight for a 50" display, but it works for me. Here it is with my 50" Sony SXRD:

Im thinking about using 2 c250's for surrounds in a 5.1 system. Anyone tell me why this is a bad idea? Im thinking about doing this rather than 10's or 20's because the 250 is not ported, can go directly against a wall, the cabinet is not deep like the others, I kinda like the taller slender look compared to the boxie bookshelf look, they have three speakers rather than two, and theyre really cheap right now. I currently have a 3.1 with 2 beta 50's, a 360 and sub.

Thanks, Jay_Davis.

Dinotoad, thank you. That seems like a simple and elegant solution to shattering glass and center channel placement problems. I will be at Lowe's soon

I only read the first and last page of this thread, but did anyone get a full set of Beta's in the seemingly limited supply of Beech? A friend purchased a pair of Beech 20's when the Beta's came out and has been looking for 40's/360 to go with them.

I personally think the Beech was the the best looking of the three color options.

*edit*
Found some pics of a theater build with Beech Beta's:
http://www.minhembio.com/kusen

I think the Beech were mostly sold outside the USA.

Let me ask it another way. Can someone please compare the sq of the 250 to either the 10 or 20? I imagine the 250 may sound thinner, not as much bass, because its not ported? Then again, it has two woofers?

Just curious. What purpose does that JBL PA speaker serve?

I would not advise using the c250 vertically. The tweeter has a directional waveguide to improve horizontal dispersion (and it probably decreases vertical dispersion) when the speaker is used horizontally, as designed. Turned 90°, this waveguide will provide enhanced vertical dispersion, toward the ceiling and floor. Unfortunately, there is no way to rotate the waveguide 90° as it is built into the speaker's front baffle.

Try the ES250. It's more expensive but designed to be a surround speaker.

Hello all. A recent post indicated that the Infinity guy phlart (?) recommended two Beta 40's for home theater uses (when pairing with a sub) because he thought the midrange was better. I had some trouble locating the specific post where he said this and was wondering if he went further and made other recommendations as to the ideal (in his opinion) 5.1 setup. I'm thinking I would combine these Beta 40's with two ES250's on my side walls. What would be the better center channel to pair with the Beta 40's, the C250 or C360? I'm thinking that the C360's 6.5" woofers would pair better with the 40's 6.5" woofer, but I'm worried that the height of the C360 may be too tall for my placement needs.

plhart came back to the thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...803706&page=23
I think around page 25 he talks about using the ES250s for surround speakers since they would envelope you better. He also said the C360 was designed for larger rooms. I have one, and it's amazing. It is big and heavy though. Even so, I was able to make room for it.

The es250's would be nice but this room is not a HT room. Its a family room with a hallway on oneside, windows along the other and open to the kitchen. The two options I see are either ceiling speakers, which I really dont want to do, or shelf speakers on stands and facing them directly at the sitting area. If es250's were used instead, one es250 side would be facing a wall, the other es250 on one side would be facing the kitchen. I can see if these were placed on each side behind the sitting they would envolope you. Im just tryng to make the best out of a non-ideal situation.

Greetings - my first post here

If anyone with Beta 20's has demo'ed JBL Venue Monitors/Arenas, could you please provide an objective opinion on the merits of each? I'm split between these 2 types.

Also, how much worse are beta 10's compared to 20's, and in what ways?

Although these stands were a little expensive, it was the only one I could find that appeared reasonably stable. Those Beta 20's are huge!

Best price was at "One Call".

http://www.sanus.com/us/en/products/...ns/pcat/steel/

It is not part of my home theater. But it (and another out of view) are hooked up to my PC and a mixer so I can mess around making my own music on guitar and mike with Band in a Box.

That makes sense. Have to wonder how noticeable that would be since the tweeter sits between the 2 woofers and the tweeters sound waves would be joined with the woofers and get thrown about, becoming less directional. Of course, I really have no idea what Im talking about - just a good imagination

Its timely how yatesed just posted pics of his very nice HT with the c360 sitting vertical.

That's not how sound "works".



Yeah, I was going to comment upon it but resisted. With his speaker on the floor, the tweeter's dispersion up into the room is probably not a bad thing. The carpeted floor is absorbing that which is being projected downward. Because of the tweeter's waveguide, it is really not a good idea, though. His tweeter is not projecting a very wide sound field, as the waveguide was intended. I guess you could cut the waveguide off.

With the prices the way they are now, and with room for a tower in that spot, I would buy a matching tower, or at the very least put a Beta20 on a stand, there. That setup is just begging for a matching tower in the center.


As an side, he DOES have it set up properly for when the TV is not centered. It is actually best to try and center the center speaker as best as possible relative to the L/R speakers as opposed to trying to center it on the screen.

I would solve it with a bear skin rug, some empty pizza boxes and beer cans. At least that's what I did at my house. And I horizontalized the verticalized C360. (That room is way too nice.)

I spoke with Infinity and you are 100% right. The wave guide will make the sound disperse in a narrow vertical field, very directional, when the c250 is positioned vertical. Would not work good for surrounds. They also said that for surrounds the 10's will work fine. But, highly recommended the es250's - you guys are way too smart

So... I can get 10's for ~$90 or es250's for ~$180... big diff in price...

Reminds me of when I had a gf living with me. My house looked incredable... now its just comfortable In fact, as I gaze to the left of me, it looks as if someone has forgotten to take out the trash... again... lol

In your main picture, that center speaker is vertical. Which, as we've been discussing, isn't so great of an idea. If you need it vertical, you'd be better off using another Beta 20 as your center.

Beta10s all the way. OK, I'm copying this from another thread where I just addressed this same thing:

Well, many people just do not like the idea of surround-specific speakers. Others think they make perfect sense.

Those of us who prefer direct radiating speakers for our surrounds think that a speaker designed specifically to reproduce a diffuse sound field is silly. Soundtracks are mixed in the studio to be reproduced by direct radiating speakers. Any ambiance or diffuse sound effects should be properly mixed into the soundtrack by the engineer. Surround-specific speakers are a remnant left over from the days of Pro-Logic receivers (or earlier, even) when the surround channels in a surround soundtrack were not really discrete channels and adding surround ambiance was really about the only thing the surround speakers could be used for. Nowadays, the surround channels are mixed completely discretely and discrete, punctate sounds are often present in the surround channels. Again, ambiance can be mixed into these discrete channels appropriately so as to produce diffuse sounds if need be. Properly calibrated, direct radiating surround speakers should not be localizable.

If you plan to use your surround speakers for any of the discrete surround music formats such as SACD and DVD-A, direct radiating speakers are much preferred, if not required.

Additionally, surround specific speakers are often more limited placement-wise.

And surround-specific speakers are very limited in their utility. They can only be used for one thing; as surround speakers. The Beta10s, for example, can be used further down the road as a stereo pair or as the front speakers in a separate HT setup. You can give them or sell them to your kid brother or a friend much more easily for use as stereo or front speakers, too.

Hell, he has plenty of room there for another matching tower.

I will say that using that speaker vertically eliminates any lobing issues but with it that low, there probably could be some lobing in the listening spot.