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post #91 of 2330
I bought 2 ES-250s also, I'm going to run them to the side with my AV123 Rocket RS-550s front, and RSC-200 center. My sub is a 500 watt Infinity IL120.

It should sound awesome the ES-250s are going to handle the rear and presense channels.

Now the tough part, in-wall wiring the ES-250s ...
post #92 of 2330
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Originally Posted by rsalexan View Post

Finally able to give you an update on the sub I ordered. You Beta-ites may find this hard to believe, maybe it's just wishful thinking, maybe Im subconsiously justifying the upgrade but Im sure the Beta's sound even better now.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post10051457

I just got the Hsu VTF3 Mk2 (which I think you got as well but not sure) and really like how it adds the bottom to my Beta 10s. I love this setup for music.
post #93 of 2330
I have a B&W 600 S3 7.1 speaker set up powered by a H/K 635, and I'm now considering buying the Beta 50 and C360. Beta surrounds will be bought later on.

My first question is, will my 635 have trouble with the relatively big center and front speakers?

My room is about 20 x 13 feet, so the Betas shouldn't be too big. The only problem, is that the right front speaker will be closer to a corner than the left front speaker. The right speaker will be placed about 1.85 feet away from the side wall. Could that cause problems with boomy bass?

I have a SVS PB10 (a second will be bought soon), so I'm planning to set the crossover to 60 or 80 HZ for the fronts.

I'm only gonna use this set up for movies, so are the Betas and the H/K 635 a good combination for movie soundtracks?

I do like the B&W's, but I've had them for over four years, so I want to try someting new.

Any help and advice is much appreciated.
post #94 of 2330
One last question:
Could the Beta 40 be a better choice, since I'm going to set the cross over at 60 or 80hz? I don't know if there's a big difference between 40 or 50, so please enlighten me.
post #95 of 2330
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bookhouseboy View Post

One last question:
Could the Beta 40 be a better choice, since I'm going to set the cross over at 60 or 80hz? I don't know if there's a big difference between 40 or 50, so please enlighten me.

Have a look at plharts comments on thish page, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8&page=2&pp=30
He worked for Infinity and knows the Beta model.
post #96 of 2330
Thanks for the link, rsalexan.

He actually addressed the choice between Beta 40 and 50, and said he actually preferred the 40's and a good subwoofer. He also said that most Europeans choose the 40 because they normally doesn't have as large HT rooms as Americans. And I do live in Europe, and I don't have a very large room, so I'm leaning towards the Beta 40. It will also perfectly match the C350. I think I'll go for the Beta 40.

I'm a little curious since I haven't listened to the Beta's, so what can I expect compared to the B&W DM602 and LCR60, which I use as fronts in my HT?
post #97 of 2330
Thats fine if you want to get the 40's, but the only perfect match for the 40's is a 40 center channel. The 360 is sealed, and uses a 4 inch midrange. The 40 is ported with a 5 inch midrange, also, the driver alignment on the different speakers is completely different.

Comparing them to the B&W's in your room is something only you can do.
post #98 of 2330
Acoustically yes, but excuse my ignorance ,but I don't know of many setups that would allow a Beta 40 to be used as a center channel speaker. They are 37" high and are made to sit on the floor. Certainly wouldn't work in my house. Get the 360.
post #99 of 2330
I remember reading an article (way back) where the reviewer claimed that the Beta system sounded harsh in the higher frequencies of course I can't find that article now, but I take it that's hardly something most people would agree with - am I right? Can't seem to find too many complaints in the reviews I can find online.

I only ask because I really *hate* harsh-sounding speakers - and I'm about to place an order for the Beta 50s, the C360, and the surround speakers. So if I'm not hearing too many complaints I'll press the button within the next few days.

And I can't listen to these speakers before I buy them - crazy, but there's nothing I can do about it.
post #100 of 2330
I bought my first pair of Infinity speakers (Overture 3s) in 1998 without hearing them first. They were absolutely beautiful and the price was so right. I know that is regarded as heresy around here. But...I loved the sound right off the bat. They were so much better than the Phase Tech towers that they replaced. My second set of Infinities were also purchased unheard. One of the glories of Internet shopping, I guess. I have yet to go wrong with the brand.

It's entirely probable that there is another brand out there that would sound better in my room. At this stage of my life I just don't care anymore.

Infinity speakers have always given me a very natural soundstage. That their better speakers can be had at a very reasonable price is remarkable; astonishing, really.

Greg
post #101 of 2330
Hello. I just found this thread and thought I would put in my two cents. I have the Beta 20's for LR , C250 for C, and the CSW-10 rounding out the bottom end. I'm using satalites from the Infinity tss-750 for the surrounds in a 7.1 setup. I purchased everything new online and could not be happier with the performance. I'm an apt dweller so my listening area is small, but I could see this setup filling a much bigger space. For the money, I love my setup. I think the Beta line is a nice bang for the buck series.

I do have a question about the csw-10. I could have bought the 12inch version for the same money but read other reviews that said the 10 was a very good performer. I am very impressed with the 10 but is the 12 any better.
post #102 of 2330
PL Hart, the guy from Infinity that designed the csw-10 would say that you have the right sub. The csw-10 is very unique. I don't think you would have done better with the SW-12. I assume that is what you are talking about. It looks like you have a great system.
post #103 of 2330
I believe the CSW-10 is better! I've heard them both, but not in the same room.
They are actually similar..

And I own the 500 RMS Infinity 12 inch variety (with RABOS).
post #104 of 2330
Does anyone here use the Infinity OWS for surrounds. I'm looking for a larger set of surrounds b/c my older Entra satellites don't seem to produce a full enough sound for my large living room. I would like something to match the rest of my speakers, but the larger bookshelfs will just stick out too far for where I'll be placing them, and since I rent an apt., in-walls are out of the question. Just wondering if the OWS's will be any better than what I already have. Any other suggestions would also be greatly appreciated.
post #105 of 2330
I have one OWS which i bought to evaluate whether to buy more. the drivers are good, the crossover is good, their main problem is their cabiniet is plastic, so they resonate just a little... barely perceptibly.

They beat satellites though, thats for sure, and have a nice full sound. Iactually noticed the Resonance before I put it on the wall, now that is on the wall, it seems better. maybe the wall stabilizes the cabinet?

BTW I will be selling this one OWS as soon as my ES-250s arrive
post #106 of 2330
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Originally Posted by JohnR_IN_LA View Post

I have one OWS which i bought to evaluate whether to buy more. the drivers are good, the crossover is good, their main problem is their cabiniet is plastic, so they resonate just a little... barely perceptibly.

They beat satellites though, thats for sure, and have a nice full sound. Iactually noticed the Resonance before I put it on the wall, now that they are on the wall, they seem better.

BTW I will be selling this one OWS as soon as my ES-250s arrive

Yeah, of the reviews I could find, the main issue seemed to be the plastic casing. I can get a set pretty cheap on eBay, so I figure as long as the sound is better than what I already have, I may as well give them a try. Thanks for the input.
post #107 of 2330
Yes I was refering to the sw-12. I thought I read somewhere that Infinity stopped making this sub because it was too expensive to produce. Anyhow, the csw-10 is a fantastic performer with the beta 20's for my modest space. I did notice the RABOS didn't make a huge difference. I guess I have decent acoustics in my room already.
post #108 of 2330
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Originally Posted by Intellivision View Post

I remember reading an article (way back) where the reviewer claimed that the Beta system sounded harsh in the higher frequencies of course I can't find that article now, but I take it that's hardly something most people would agree with - am I right? Can't seem to find too many complaints in the reviews I can find online.

I only ask because I really *hate* harsh-sounding speakers - and I'm about to place an order for the Beta 50s, the C360, and the surround speakers. So if I'm not hearing too many complaints I'll press the button within the next few days.

And I can't listen to these speakers before I buy them - crazy, but there's nothing I can do about it.

IMO, I could see where some would think they are 'harsh' sounding, some call the same thing 'true to the material' resulting in being 'too realistic'. I have 50s up front in my HT. In 2 channel music listening I noticed the same thing with some material. But then other material would sound great. The 50s seem to be very revealing of the quality of the source. I just got a decent sub and have been listening over the last week to music in 2.1 and find that much more satisfying. It seems strange, as the 50s have dual 8", but I've found that the addition of the sub really brought the low end up the level of the mids and highs.
Like you, I couldn't demo these before I bought. I heard them once when visiting a friend in the US. After initially being a little disappointed I'm now very happy with my whole Beta setup. ...just my 2cents...
post #109 of 2330
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Originally Posted by armystud0911 View Post

Thats fine if you want to get the 40's, but the only perfect match for the 40's is a 40 center channel. The 360 is sealed, and uses a 4 inch midrange. The 40 is ported with a 5 inch midrange, also, the driver alignment on the different speakers is completely different.

Comparing them to the B&W's in your room is something only you can do.

They're not identical, but as far as fronts and centers go, they're pretty much a perfect match.

I've now ordered the Beta 40 and C360, and I'm really looking forward to hearing them in my HT room. Since I've had the B&W 600 series for over four years, I'm excited to hear a new brand of speakers. If I'm not satisfied, I'll just send them back and get my money back. I do however think that I'll be pleased. From what I've read, the Betas are really good speakers for movies, and that's what I'm looking for.

The B&W 600 series plays really well with acoustic and more laidback music, but they lack a bit of dynamics when watching movies, so I'm hoping my all American set up with Betas and H/K will make my HT come more to life.
post #110 of 2330
will check my C360 ... IIRC, it was ported at the back.
post #111 of 2330
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Originally Posted by ribbit View Post

will check my C360 ... IIRC, it was ported at the back.

Mine is sealed.
post #112 of 2330
My C360 is sealed too, with no ports in the back.

Thanks for this thread! I read up on the other thread where the designer of the Beta series posted about his line of speakers and I am now convinced to get the Beta 40's to go with my CSW-10 subwoofer. Initially I had wanted the Beta 50's for their extra bass and sensitivity but if I have the CSW-10 it won't really matter, especially if the fronts are set to small in my receiver.

I would love to get another CSW-10 but it is nowhere to be found now.
post #113 of 2330
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Originally Posted by rsalexan View Post

IMO, I could see where some would think they are 'harsh' sounding, some call the same thing 'true to the material' resulting in being 'too realistic'. I have 50s up front in my HT. In 2 channel music listening I noticed the same thing with some material. But then other material would sound great. The 50s seem to be very revealing of the quality of the source. I just got a decent sub and have been listening over the last week to music in 2.1 and find that much more satisfying. It seems strange, as the 50s have dual 8", but I've found that the addition of the sub really brought the low end up the level of the mids and highs.
Like you, I couldn't demo these before I bought. I heard them once when visiting a friend in the US. After initially being a little disappointed I'm now very happy with my whole Beta setup. ...just my 2cents...

I'm glad I'm not the only one who have to buy speakers without demoing them first (although I've listened *briefly* to the Beta 40s)...

"Harsh" or not, most people seem to be more than pleased with these speakers, so I'll definitely get them. Thanks for your input!
post #114 of 2330
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Originally Posted by jpl3447 View Post



I would love to get another CSW-10 but it is nowhere to be found now.


IF you don't mind the cherry finish, Circuit City has the CSW-10 on there website as a closeout model. They have it listed for a grand though, which is way too much. I bought mine new online for less than half of that. Once in awhile you see one on Ebay as well. I would love to have two of these guys!
post #115 of 2330
Refurbished Beta 360 for $199.00 and two Beta 20 for $115.00 each bought.

Now which sub should I buy ? (Between $300 to $500)
post #116 of 2330
Sub: After some surfing, bought SVS PB 10 for $429.00
post #117 of 2330
Good choice on the sub, no real reason other than cosmetic to get an infinity, I'll take an SVS over one of theirs most any day.

BTW, my point wasn't that everyone should get the beta 40 as the center channel, it was only that realistically speaking, the 40 is no better of a timbre match to the C360 than the beta 50, the 40's and C360 have too much that is different to be anything special of a match over the Beta 50's. BTW, I have 3 beta 50's across the front of my HT with a screen above them. I hope to get an AT screen someday.
post #118 of 2330
Do any of you know the difference between the CSW-10 (which seems to be unavailable here in Sweden) and the SW 10/SW 12 subwoofers?
post #119 of 2330
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Originally Posted by armystud0911 View Post

Good choice on the sub, no real reason other than cosmetic to get an infinity, I'll take an SVS over one of theirs most any day.

BTW, my point wasn't that everyone should get the beta 40 as the center channel, it was only that realistically speaking, the 40 is no better of a timbre match to the C360 than the beta 50, the 40's and C360 have too much that is different to be anything special of a match over the Beta 50's. BTW, I have 3 beta 50's across the front of my HT with a screen above them. I hope to get an AT screen someday.

I agree, I recently purchased a PB10-NSD and you won't be sorry, it really reaches down low...I have 2 beta 50s with a 360 as the center and I think the front soundstage is absolutely seamless. I haven't compared the 50s and 40s...but I have a good sub and I have never been sorry that I have the 50s...plus, every once and a while I listen to music in "direct stereo" mode (mostly older stuff) and the 50s sound absolutely pristine--the bass is more than adequate and true to the source... that is a scenario where you would likely notice a difference between the 50s and 40s
post #120 of 2330
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Originally Posted by Intellivision View Post

Do any of you know the difference between the CSW-10 (which seems to be unavailable here in Sweden) and the SW 10/SW 12 subwoofers?

The CSW-10 is a powerful 650 RMS sub with RABOS.

The closest equivelent is the 12 inch 500 RMS Infinity sub with RABOS.
I dont have the current model numbers but I think Infinity offers two 12 inch subs:

12 inch 500 RMS with RABOS
12 inch (lower wattage, 300 RMS?) without RABOS

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The differences will be quite noticeable as you go up the food chain .... every step up WILL be a step up in sound quality.
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