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Thanks for the response. I ended up just setting the 'BASS MIX' setting to 'BOTH'.

Yet another question...

For those who own a Marantz 7002, what volume do you typically listen? While watching TV, my volume is around -30 to -25. When I listen to music, it seems its around -20 to -15 or so.

Is there any way to turn off the tacky blue lights on the 8002 above the input and volume dials? I have the Japanese model which looks identical to the US model except it is in champaign color and its just not an elegant look. Looks like those ricer modded hondas with lights everywhere :O

thats about right - it all depends what you like - but i usually listen to music around -20 to -10 -- at times i push it to -5 and 0 db - but its pretty loud at those levels -

to turn off the lights - display - you have to put it in pure direct mode -

on your remote - there should be a button - that says i think - direct mode - press that once for direct mode and press it again for pure direct mode -

Other than the pure direct mode, if you have movie or music playing, choose amp as source, if you push the #7 button the remote. Push it until it "auto display off", or push it once more for "display off" and in a couple of seconds, it will go off. No more blue light. I use "auto display off" because if you make a change in source or surround mode, it will turn the display back on for a few seconds, then turn back off. "Display off" is off, until you hit the #7 button again.

Hopefully one of my last questions.. sorry for all of them.

I'm considering buying some Monitor Audio GS series speakers. Is the Marantz 7002 capable of driving 6 ohm speakers? Is anyone else using 4 or 6 ohm speakers with the marantz?

The manual only mentions 8 ohm speakers for the Fronts.

Maybe I should read the manual more.. The 7002 is rated at 140 W into 6 ohms. I suppose that means that the 7002 can run 6 ohm speakers just fine.

The minimum impedance of the MA speakers is 4 ohms, I assume this will be OK.

You should be fine. I'm using an 8002 to run my 5 Canton Ergos that drop to 4 ohms. They sound great. I've never had a problem with them.

For some reason, I am unable to pass video through the composite multi out port of my Marantz SR-8500. I can get the sound to zone 2 just fine using multi out. (using a dedicated amp for the zone)
Will that multi out port only send a video signal that has come into the receiver using one of the composite inputs?
More specifically, I am using Apple TV as the source, using the component outputs on the device, and component inputs on the receiver. (the DSS component inputs, if that matters) It works fine in the main zone, but not to zone 2. I've tried different resolution settings on the TV, but that doesn't appear to the the problem.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

That is correct, you need to hook up the composite if you want zone 2 video for the SR8500 and earlier. I don't know why they didn't have the option of component or at least s-video until the SR8001 ( which has component, no s-video).

Hi- I have a couple of questions about how Dolby Headphone and also pre-amp outputs are handled on the SR-4002. Does Dolby Headphone work with 7.1 LPCM via HDMI inputs? Like if I sent LPCM out from my PS3, could I listen to it in Dolby Headphone? If so, is the codec capable of resolving 7.1, or does it throw away the 2 rear channels' info?

Also, when headphones are connected I understand the speakers are muted, but is there a way to keep the pre-amp outputs active while listening to the headphones? I have good reason- to drive a tactile transducer (seat rumbler) I made for my racing simulator/gaming seat. I have 3 channels (left+left rear, right+right rear, and center+sub) and I would be able to run these off the pre-amp outputs, decoded by the receiver, if they could remain active while listening to headphones.

Currently I'm limited to Dolby Digital only since I use an outboard Tritton AX360 5.1 headphone amp driven by optical out from my current receiver. (The Tritton was made to power multi-driver surround headphones it comes with, but the Dolby Headphone from my receiver sounds much nicer with a decent pair of cans than the Trittons do. But their small decoder box is useful since it also decodes the DD into 6 analog outputs I can feed my seat vibe system with for directional feedback. Hoping I can find a next gen receiver to expand to 7.1 LPCM but still get DH and pre-amp outputs. Not sure if that is possible.

Oh, and finally, for the ideal wish list- it would also be nice if these next gen receivers could take a high-res audio format such as 7.1 LPCM or Dolby-HD via HDMI and matrix it to Dolby Virtual Speaker or Dolby 2 channel to send out to the zone 2 analog audio outputs! Wouldn't that be awesome and useful to feed a zone 2? Not to get higher resolution- you can only do so much with left and right analog- but for convenience.

Hi All.
I got a replacement sr7001 from Marantz today. The unit I returned had v.52 the new one has v.50. Can anyone tell me the differences? I'm using a PS3 HDMI to 7.1 speakers.
Any info would be appreciated.

Zaxdad

I hope this is the correct area to post my question. I have the above amp and just love since the day I brought it home from the store brand new. The question I have is this...after many years of lusting after the Sunfire Super Junior I've finally got one on the way. The question is this...where is the best connection for a self-powered sub. My 10" Klipsh has always been conected to the pre sub out. When it gets a signal (I have always presumed due to programming) it plays really well. But sometimes the lights are on but the sub doesn't seem to get a signal So, again is there a better connection?

Thanks,

Allen

I just bought a second hand SR9600. It's not here yet, but I thought I'd ask in advance.

From what I understand the older models support only 5.1 LPCM through HDMI. The newer ones have full 7.1. I currently have a 5.0 sound system but might want to expand it in the future. I have a few Blu-rays with 7.1 sound tracks. How do I recognise which version of the SR9600 I have? Will a 7.1 sountrack play as a 5.1 sountrack or will it not play at all on an older SR9600?

From what I understand an SR9600 that only does 5.1 LPCM can be updated to support 7.1 LPCM. That's of course something that a service central need to do. Is it just a firmware update or is something done to the harware too? Is it a costly upgrade?

Thanks!

I am not sure that I fully understand your question but I will try to answer. I have an SR9600 and it has 7.1 analog inputs--I believe all of the SR9600's support 7.1 but if not the case and yours is only 5.1 you will still get 5.1 DD or DTS surround from a 7.1 BD.

I will be getting the BD8003 and will use the HDMI direct to the TV for the video (1.3a compliant) and I will use the 7.1 analog outputs of the BD8003 to the 7.1 analog inputs on the SR9600. This will get me either 5.1 or 7.1 lossless (DTS HD MA et al) since the BD 8003 will do all of the decoding for audio.

If you have a BD player that has 5.1 analog outputs you can set up the same way but you will need a BD player that can decode the DD True HD and/or DTS HD MA since the SR9600 cannot do this particular decoding. The SR9600can decode DTS Neo 6, DD EX, et al but not the newer lossless.

You will only get core DD or DTS if you use HDMI for both audio and video and decode through your SR9600.

If I am wrong about this please jump in and educate me too. Thanks.

Bob

I want to transport the sound digitally. Since i.Link really isn't an option with Blu-ray it's HDMI that I'm planning on using. Actually I can live without the 7.1 (through HDMI) since I have no plans to get surround back speaker any time soon. Actually I'm planning on using their connections for bi-amping the main speakers. But what I'd like to know is how a 7.1 M-PCM source is handled if the SR9600 is of the earlier revision. Will it play as 5.1, 2.0 or not at all? Of course I'll soon know myself if my SR9600 turns out to be an older machine.

But it would be nice to know more about the update if one is necessary. I'm not from the US and the local Marantz service probably possibly has never done the update so it would help me to know something beforehand and also know what to expect when the bill arrives.

BTW. Why would you want to transport the sounds through an analogue connection? SR9600 probably has better DACs and with HDMI you'd avoid using analogue connections and any (theoretical) quality loss. Or was it that the BD8003 can only decode DTS MA to analogue outs and not to PCM?

How much better is the SR8002 than the SR7002, is it worth the extra premium?

"BTW. Why would you want to transport the sounds through an analogue connection? SR9600 probably has better DACs and with HDMI you'd avoid using analogue connections and any (theoretical) quality loss. Or was it that the BD8003 can only decode DTS MA to analogue outs and not to PCM?"

The Marantz BD8003 looks like it has Burr Brown 1796 DACs which are very good. Because SR9600 is only HDMI 1.1 compliant and not 1.3a compliant you need to go through analogs to get lossless via PCM if your BD player can do decoding of these formats. The HDMI will only pass the core DD or DTS which will work fine for 5.1 surround. Going through the analogs I will be able to get any lossless codecs (DD True HD, 7.1 or 5.1 PCM, and DTS HD MA) that are on the BD and can be decoded by the BD player.

I think you got it wrong. SR9600 can receive 7.1 multi-channel PCM (or 5.1 on older machines) through HDMI 1.1. If your BD-player can convert DTS MA and Dolby TrueHD to PCM (like the PS3 can) then you'll always be able hear all audio tracks at full resolution.

So if I understand you, you are saying that I should be able to use HDMI and receive DTS HD MA if the BD player is able to decode DTS MA ???

It has been my understanding that I must use analogs because SR9600 is only HDMI 1.1 compliant and it would have to pass signal via PCM through analogs and would not be able to do this through the HDMI.

Yep. That's what I'm saying though I've yet to try it with the SR9600. HDMI 1.3 really isn't necessary for much. Multichannel PCM support was already included in HDMI version 1.0.

Technically you don't pass PCM through analogs since PCM is a digital format.

Thanks and when I get the BD8002 I will definitely try it first through the HDMI. I am very happy with my SR9600 and really don't want to upgrade the receiver at this time because the sound and build quality is so good and it has proven to be extremely reliable. I have been looking at the Marantz separates but for right now I just really enjoy the SR9600. I hope you will enjoy yours as much!!

(Revised 06/27) After reading some other posts and talking with Marantz, I believe I will go direct to the TV from the BD8002 for video and use analogs for the 7.1. Seems I will do well with this config. I will however try HDMI from BD to SR first just have good basis on which to compare.

I have a problem with no audio being played via HDMI on my SR4002 AVR.

Samsung BD-P1500 connected via HDMI to Marantz which outputs thru HDMI to Samsung HL67A750 TV.

When playing BD or DVD receiver doesn't have any sound. HOWEVER, if I turn off the TV (severing the HDMI out link), the audio from the player is heard just fine. Turn the TV back on, audio cuts off.

HDMI Audio is set to "Enable" on Marantz (as opposed to being "Through" to TV).

Sure, I can use HDMI for Video and Optical/Coax for sound, but it kinda defeats the purpose of HDMI.

Has anyone experienced a similar problem with HDMI Audio? Any ideas what I should do?

Thanks in advance, Sam.

i am not sure how to correct your issue - but it does sound to me like a setting issue -- there must be some settings you need to adjust - -- it should work fine with the HDMI - for audio and video - hopefully someone else who knows excatly how to solve this will response -

Sure, I can use HDMI for Video and Optical/Coax for sound, but it kinda defeats the purpose of HDMI.

HDMI Enabled on the SR7002 should work and thats what I'm using with my BD-P1400 with no issues.

I use a harmony remote and have my 1400 come on first then the marantz a few seconds later or at least thats how I think I have it. Try this manually and see if it works for you. My TV XBR2 is already on during this process and is a non issue.

If this doesn't work I would check the video settings in the Marantz and the HDMI cable from 1500 to Receiver.

Ray

Thank you for responding, guys. You're not going to believe the solution to my problem I've found. Illogical, yet simple - use HDMI3 on Marantz for BD input.
I've tried HDMI1 and HDMI2 before asking my question here, the result was the same as I described earlier. Well, yesterday, as a last resort I tried using HDMI3.
I was sure it wasn't going to work... But lo and behold - there was my audio in its pristine form.

Later on I will play with it some more to confirm if it's the issue with HDMI1/2 or some other settings. As of now I'm just happy it works.

So...you inputs were not setup right on HDMI 1 and 2?

I've seen the same problem on my SR4002 with the PS3. Inputs 1 and 2 don't work properly, but input 3 works great. Not sure why...none of my other components have issues on 1 and 2. Perhaps there's shorter trace lengths from input 3 to the HDMI output.

Interesting. I'm running the following to my AV8003 via HDMI inputs:

Oppo 980H for SACD
DirecTV HR21 satellite box
BD8002 for Blu Ray
PS3 for gaming (and possibly some of the BD2.0 features as the BD8002 is not upgradeable)

So is there an optimal HDMI input for each component to make sure things run smoothly?

Also, I am not sure if I should use the scaler in the AV8003 or my pioneer Pro-150FD for the HR21. I am going to run two HDMI outs to the display and switch them via a macro on my remote so I can have the BD8002 video pass through without processing. This will allow me to configure the two HDMI inputs on the 150FD to let the source come in native, or to let it scale.

Should I have the PS3 pass through as well?