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post #1 of 11
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I recently won a Boston SACD auction on ebay. The disk ended up coming with the CD paperwork, not the SACD paperwork in the CD, and the disk sounds really flat and plain. There is little to no 3d audio to it. I can hardly believe it is a SACD, but the disk itself says SACD. Does anyone else have Boston's original release on SACD and are you really disappointed in it?

I'm wondering if I've somehow been swindled by the seller, or perhaps swindled by the label
post #2 of 11
The Boston SACD is stereo only, not multi-channel. I'm not sure if your comment regarding "little to no 3d audio" means you expected it to be multi-channel or not. Compared to other hi-rez discs, I too found this disc to be somewhat underwhelming. It's not terrible, just nothing special (it also has very little bass, at least on my system).
post #3 of 11
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Ah, alright. Yeah I didn't even look to see if it was multi-channel, but I agree with your observation...and this disk is real, my player reads it as a sacd. There's not the full bass you'd expect from a SACD worth its salt.
post #4 of 11
SACD's shouldn't generally have more bass than CD's, if that's what you're saying. If they do, it suggests something's a bit odd with your calibration.

Conversely, if this one seems anaemic, maybe bass managment isn't working properly in your set-up for SACD, and you're relying on the LFE track to provide bass?

Of course, this disc could just be poorly mixed...
post #5 of 11
Yeah, the Boston SACD disc is nothing special. I bought it early on before I understood that it was ony two-channel. The other one I made this mistake on was the Police "Outlandos d'Amour."
post #6 of 11
If you are running 5.1, make sure you set your speaker trim to "Small" on the SACD player, so that bass will run to the sub.
post #7 of 11
Lots of discussion about this over at Steve Hoffman forums. A good many members there prefer the un-remastered Red Book CD to the SACD, including Hoffman himself.

If you have the CD, try a comparison on Smokin', Red Book vs. SACD. There is something wrong with the intro of Smokin' on the SACD...the highs are seriously rolled off as compared to the CD.

BTW, most of Sony's single layer SACDs are packaged exactly like the Red Book....save for a DSD logo somewhere on the booklet and back cover.

Brian
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by KMO View Post

SACD's shouldn't generally have more bass than CD's, if that's what you're saying. If they do, it suggests something's a bit odd with your calibration.

Conversely, if this one seems anaemic, maybe bass managment isn't working properly in your set-up for SACD, and you're relying on the LFE track to provide bass?

Of course, this disc could just be poorly mixed...

I wasn't suggesting that it should have more bass simply because it was SACD. I have plenty of other SACD's and DVD-A's discs which sound nice & full so my conclusion is that the problem is probably with the mix or mastering of this particular disc rather than a calibration problem with my system.
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by KMO View Post

SACD's shouldn't generally have more bass than CD's, if that's what you're saying. If they do, it suggests something's a bit odd with your calibration.

Conversely, if this one seems anaemic, maybe bass managment isn't working properly in your set-up for SACD, and you're relying on the LFE track to provide bass?

Of course, this disc could just be poorly mixed...

Yeah I'm sure my setup is fine, calibrated, configured properly. I'm a technical guy and an audiophile. I was vague when I described the bass. It's flat and not realistic, not "quiet" or something. I run my LFE channel about 2 db hot compared to my other channels, that's just personal preference. To me it makes good recordings sound a little more live. Anyhoo, thanks for all the info.
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Goatspeed View Post

The disk ended up coming with the CD paperwork, not the SACD paperwork in the CD

This is common with most Sony SACDs.

Same story on every Sony SACD I own: The O'Jays "Ship Together", Peter Tosh "Legalize It", David Bowie "Heathen" , Journey "Escape" and Jeff Beck "Blow By Blow"
post #11 of 11
If the SACD mix is similar to the original CD mix, it's kind of crappy.

Check out the newly remixed and remastered CD (not SACD), which was done by Tom Scholz.
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