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post #1381 of 2754
2/22/10 at 8:35am
Just curious if anyone has used a Tube Amp with the Gallo 3.1's? I tried a Jolida 1000rc and it sounded nice. I'm looking to get the most out of my Gallo 3.1's and want to increase the power. I'm currently using a Sherbourn 5210a, which is rated at 5x200. I listen mostly to Rock music at loud volumes.

Would it be better to just stick with a Solid State amp like a Bryston 4bsst? Does anyone have any suggestions on some amps to try? Any thoughts or help on this would be appreciated.
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post #1382 of 2754
2/22/10 at 8:51am
I tried a 4BSST on the 3.1s and it really held them in a cast-iron grip. The bass really opened up. Eventually I went with a Micromega Class-D amp, it cost half as much and performed about the same. I know of people who`ve used a Lyngdorf SDA2175 with a tube-preamp with great luck.
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post #1383 of 2754
2/22/10 at 11:53am
Well the 3.5 review has begun and I'm even quoted...

http://6moons.com/audioreviews/gallo9/ref35.html
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post #1384 of 2754
2/22/10 at 2:55pm
Thanks for the heads up, Barry. I'm reading the review now. I still have not make up my mind whether to get the Reference 3.5 or Strada + TR3. I like the Strada system more because placing them on my living room is much easier since space is tight. I wonder how easy to tune the TR3 with Strada. Anyone have any experience on this?

Ken
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post #1385 of 2754
2/22/10 at 6:49pm
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

Well the 3.5 review has begun and I'm even quoted...

http://6moons.com/audioreviews/gallo9/ref35.html

You're famous now

"The conversion fee will be the retail difference between old and new models."

So that's about $3K?!

Styln
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post #1386 of 2754
2/22/10 at 10:14pm
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Originally Posted by magic12kenneth View Post

Thanks for the heads up, Barry. I'm reading the review now. I still have not make up my mind whether to get the Reference 3.5 or Strada + TR3. I like the Strada system more because placing them on my living room is much easier since space is tight. I wonder how easy to tune the TR3 with Strada. Anyone have any experience on this?

Ken


I have, it was pretty easy, easier than many other subs I`ve tried.
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post #1387 of 2754
2/23/10 at 6:08am
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

Well the 3.5 review has begun and I'm even quoted...

http://6moons.com/audioreviews/gallo9/ref35.html

Barry, can you clarify what the OPT 2 technology is supposed to accomplish? It appears you have the capability to run the speaker with the feature enabled or disabled. How does it affect the sound when enabled?
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post #1388 of 2754
2/23/10 at 6:53pm
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Barry, can you clarify what the OPT 2 technology is supposed to accomplish? It appears you have the capability to run the speaker with the feature enabled or disabled. How does it affect the sound when enabled?

Well I can hear its effect om the sound, it's not a huge instantaneous change, but when it's unplugged the sound just isn't as engaging, all the clarity and dimensionality is still there, but there is less "there" there. When it's plugged in I don't want to stop listening, and I find it hard not to listen. When it's unplugged, I'm more easily distracted and my mind wonders from the music.

As far as what it's doing technically I wasn't comfortable answering so I asked Anthony via email and here is his response...
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Originally Posted by Anthony Gallo View Post

Opt deals with all mechanical alignments, torques, rigid structural engineering and tensional compensations that ensure wave launch accuracy from all drivers simultaneously. Opt level 2 deals with a similar timing practice but purely in the electrical signal domain by setting up an electrostatic field around the internal signal wires as a dialectic absorption countermeasure to ensure equality on the primary driver feeds by countering these dialectic absorption effects[Anthony Gallo] on these primary feeds, which are significantly deleterious to the sound when placed In proximity to many synthetic wire insulators and acoustic damping fibers, including but not limited to, various wools, fiber fills, Dacron or even our own patented S2 damping materials.
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post #1389 of 2754
2/24/10 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

Well I can hear its effect om the sound, it's not a huge instantaneous change, but when it's unplugged the sound just isn't as engaging, all the clarity and dimensionality is still there, but there is less "there" there. When it's plugged in I don't want to stop listening, and I find it hard not to listen. When it's unplugged, I'm more easily distracted and my mind wonders from the music.

As far as what it's doing technically I wasn't comfortable answering so I asked Anthony via email and here is his response...

Thanks for the feedback. Anthony's explaination is way over my head so I'll just accept that it is a good thing. When I initially read Srajan's review I assumed that engaging OPT was optional. After rereading, it appears that assumption was incorrect.

On the OPT®2 input: "For regular speaker cables, we include a small link that connects from the positive upper terminal to the OPT® banana socket. This is what the external spiral wire of our own cable connects to directly. Disconnecting the OPT® banana allows you to test the efficacy of our static interference suppression."
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post #1390 of 2754
2/24/10 at 11:31am
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Originally Posted by IcemanDallas View Post

Thanks for the feedback. Anthony's explaination is way over my head so I'll just accept that it is a good thing. When I initially read Srajan's review I assumed that engaging OPT was optional. After rereading, it appears that assumption was incorrect.

On the OPT®2 input: "For regular speaker cables, we include a small link that connects from the positive upper terminal to the OPT® banana socket. This is what the external spiral wire of our own cable connects to directly. Disconnecting the OPT® banana allows you to test the efficacy of our static interference suppression."

Well it is "optional", but I see no reason why anyone would use the speakers without it

I can try to put Anthony's tech explanation into simpler terms. Pretty much anything can be effected, become polarized, by an electrical charge, some things more than others. So Opt 2 counters the effects, of the polarizations to non-signal carrying parts of the speaker, that can effect the signal running through the wires. I had to do a bit of research my self to come up with this simpler explanation I hope it's more understandable.
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post #1391 of 2754
2/24/10 at 10:53pm
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I have, it was pretty easy, easier than many other subs I`ve tried.

I have never use a sub on my stereo system for home theater and music. I waited until this time that I decided to upgrade to the 7.1 home theater as more and more blu-ray is in 7.1 now.

As I was research which home theater speaker to buy, I learn that one always have to add one or more subs to the system. I read a couple of articles on how to setup a sub. But it was pretty complicate because you have to use various measurement and techniques to verify the proper setup.

If I have any questions, may I pm you in the future when I get my Strada system?

Thanks.

Ken
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post #1392 of 2754
2/26/10 at 12:19pm
In case anyone's missed it, Srajan has updated his 3.5 review...

http://6moons.com/audioreviews/gallo9/ref35_2.html
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post #1393 of 2754
2/28/10 at 3:41am
the reviewer sure put in a lot of effort convincing us the 3.5 is that much better than a strada/tr3 combo
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post #1394 of 2754
2/28/10 at 6:36am
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the reviewer sure put in a lot of effort convincing us the 3.5 is that much better than a strada/tr3 combo

Have you heard any of the speaker systems discussed in the article
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post #1395 of 2754
3/3/10 at 5:06pm
yes, Ive had the original gallo reference with dynaudio drivers, the 3.0, reference AV, and currently the 3.1, Strada and TR-3 and Due

I will prob still opt for the 3.5 if I can get a good discount on them, but the strada/TR3 is less than half the retail price, the review made it seem like the sound was half as bad also

like everything else, supply and demand will determine the 3.5 price

If most of the costs of the 3.5 are in the aluminum stalk, Gallo should make available a reasonably priced DIY 3.1 -> 3.5 upgrade kit


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Have you heard any of the speaker systems discussed in the article
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post #1396 of 2754
3/4/10 at 9:12pm
Has anyone seen these?
LL
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post #1397 of 2754
3/4/10 at 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by GalloGuy View Post

Has anyone seen these?

They've been selling them on ebay. It's very pricey for both the stand and shipping. And the design doesn't match the speaker. If you're looking for stands, you might want to check out Mapleshades or Bright Star's Isorock stands specifically for the 3's.
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post #1398 of 2754
3/5/10 at 10:41am
Scroll about 2/3's down

http://www.dagogo.com/View-Article.asp?hArticle=713
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post #1399 of 2754
3/5/10 at 11:50am
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Scroll about 2/3's down

http://www.dagogo.com/View-Article.asp?hArticle=713

Nice! It's always pleasing to get affirmation on your personal opinion/experience
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post #1400 of 2754
3/6/10 at 12:24am
Cool. The Mapleshades were twice as much. And the isorock's were a bit Target looking. These look like the they have some mass to them. And nothing much else matters when you are talking about high frequence vibrations. But i appreciate the heads up...
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post #1401 of 2754
3/6/10 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by GalloGuy View Post

Cool. The Mapleshades were twice as much. And the isorock's were a bit Target looking. These look like the they have some mass to them. And nothing much else matters when you are talking about high frequence vibrations. But i appreciate the heads up...

FWIW, the Mapleshade bases actually replace the base of the 3.1 so I wouldn't compare them to those plexiglass risers, and the Iso-rocks are likely much less resonant than those. I question the design of the plexi risers.

If money is a concern, 2 ofthese, and a bag of these so you can attach the Gallo spikes to them, should get you really close to the Mapleshade bases for a fraction of the cost.
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post #1402 of 2754
3/7/10 at 8:41am
Ref 3.1 orientation question...

It seems like most of the pictures I've seen of the new 3.5s have the main woofers pointing towards each other (i.e. towards center). Is there a "correct" way of choosing whether to place the woofers facing in or out? I currently have my 3.1s facing apart from one another so am curious if I've had it wrong for all this time.

Thanks!
Xyst
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post #1403 of 2754
3/7/10 at 9:16am
Xyst,

There is no wrong or right way to orient the woofers. Different rooms/systems will sound better with different orientations. Your best bet is to try it both ways to hear which sounds best in your room/system.
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post #1404 of 2754
3/7/10 at 10:17am
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Xyst,

There is no wrong or right way to orient the woofers. Different rooms/systems will sound better with different orientations. Your best bet is to try it both ways to hear which sounds best in your room/system.

Thanks Barry, one of these weekends I'll have to swap them around and compare!
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post #1405 of 2754
3/8/10 at 11:31am
Can anybody comment on switching the polarity between amp and speakers for gallos? Found this on 6moons and am curious why this would be. Sounds a little strange...

"Per Anthony Gallo, 70% of the amps he's tried require inverted polarity, meaning the plus/red lead of the speaker cable connectsonly on the amp or integratedto the minus/black post and vice versa."

Has anybody asked Gallo about this?
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post #1406 of 2754
3/8/10 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

FWIW, the Mapleshade bases actually replace the base of the 3.1 so I wouldn't compare them to those plexiglass risers, and the Iso-rocks are likely much less resonant than those. I question the design of the plexi risers.

If money is a concern, 2 ofthese, and a bag of these so you can attach the Gallo spikes to them, should get you really close to the Mapleshade bases for a fraction of the cost.

This is basically what I am in the process of doing right now. I custom ordered 2 butcher blocks from an ebay retailer for the 15"x15"x4" maple bases. They are custom size and have about a 3 week lead time. I ordered about 2 1/2 weeks ago.

As far as the mapleshade bases, I think the other thing that helps them is the huge mega bear claw feet in the front add about 14 extra pounds to the speaker base, bringing the center of mass of the speaker pretty low. I plan to purchase a couple steel plates to attach to the base to give it the extra weight.

Once the project is complete I will post pics and impressions.

Also I just received my strada center to round out my HT speakers. I now am using the 3.1's for the LR, strada center, and adiva ti rears. Sounds nice.
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post #1407 of 2754
3/8/10 at 1:07pm
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Can anybody comment on switching the polarity between amp and speakers for gallos? Found this on 6moons and am curious why this would be. Sounds a little strange...

"Per Anthony Gallo, 70% of the amps he's tried require inverted polarity, meaning the plus/red lead of the speaker cable connects—only on the amp or integrated—to the minus/black post and vice versa."

Has anybody asked Gallo about this?

Many amps and pre-amps actually invert phase, so that the signal they ouyput is a polar reversal of the signal they recieved.
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post #1408 of 2754
3/8/10 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by DCJ98GST View Post

This is basically what I am in the process of doing right now. I custom ordered 2 butcher blocks from an ebay retailer for the 15"x15"x4" maple bases. They are custom size and have about a 3 week lead time. I ordered about 2 1/2 weeks ago.

As far as the mapleshade bases, I think the other thing that helps them is the huge mega bear claw feet in the front add about 14 extra pounds to the speaker base, bringing the center of mass of the speaker pretty low. I plan to purchase a couple steel plates to attach to the base to give it the extra weight.

Once the project is complete I will post pics and impressions.

Also I just received my strada center to round out my HT speakers. I now am using the 3.1's for the LR, strada center, and adiva ti rears. Sounds nice.

Nice! I'd contacted a vendor on ebay, not sure which one, about getting the 18x12x3 without the finger grips but never heard back.
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post #1409 of 2754
3/10/10 at 11:01am
I am still loving my Stradas. These are keepers.

I am looking for a better integrated amp to run them off.

I have been looking at Class D stuff such as Bel Canto S300iu and others, but what matches them best sonically within a similar price range such as the Bel Canto?
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post #1410 of 2754
3/10/10 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

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Originally Posted by asap200x View Post

Can anybody comment on switching the polarity between amp and speakers for gallos? Found this on 6moons and am curious why this would be. Sounds a little strange...

"Per Anthony Gallo, 70% of the amps he's tried require inverted polarity, meaning the plus/red lead of the speaker cable connectsonly on the amp or integratedto the minus/black post and vice versa."

Has anybody asked Gallo about this?

Many amps and pre-amps actually invert phase, so that the signal they output is a polar reversal of the signal they received.

Well I actually spoke to Anthony about this last night. Turns out my assumption about the components reversing polarity being the reason for this phenomenon was wrong. It has to do with how the amp and speaker circuits interact and the direction of the current flow can effect this. I'm not really sure on all the theory involved, but, as mentioned in the 6moons article "Ultimate Desk Top System?", the phenomena was first brought to light by Eduardo de Lima of Audiopax. It's an easy enough experiment to try, just swap the +/- connections on the back of the speakers and see how it sounds.
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