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post #2251 of 2758
11/1/11 at 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

the Strada don't have an 'Opt' plug to accept the third wire on the Gallo cables.

I was reading some words by AG in a review and it seemed to me that he was saying the wires INSIDE the Ref 3.5 were being charged by the olefin flakes / nylon 'sock' and passing electrostatic charge onto the core of the CDT3. And the OPT wiring was to discharge that.

The Strada have no flakes in the rear area to charge up the wires.
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post #2252 of 2758
11/1/11 at 3:30pm
Regarding speakers cables, I'm about to minimise them as far as possible and get the mono block amps right up to the backs of the Stradas. Been running in the new interconnects for the last month in preparation.

In my experience speaker cables are not good sounding and the lesser of the two evils has always been to have long interconnect and very short speakers cables.

On big speakers anyway. The difference is immediacy, clarity, transient response, speed, dynamics, punchiness.
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post #2253 of 2758
11/1/11 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by jfklennon View Post

I have REF A/V's and Strada. A/V's are a much better overall speaker, better mid bass, less harsh highs, more natural sound. The Strada specs are way off also, a first for Gallo.

I think your just listening to the sound of your receiver. Seems the Stradas are more revealing so perhaps not the best choice for source equipment that's not nastiness free.

Though I wonder why AG didn't release a Strada version with the two extra 4 inch units to bolster the bass / low mid.

I changed to another silver wire interconnect this year and the sound was not a nice listen, harsh and thin, and started to wonder if the Stradas were partly to blame. I realised I had the wire in the wrong way around and the balance was better the other way. Then I changed the RCA plugs to Eichmann copper and that was a lot smoother (ie harshness, thickness, muddle pared out) and a much nicer listen.

A person just has to find something to give the right tonal balance.

I took the Eichmann'd cable over to a friend with a brightish high end system in a 25 x 15 foot live room with a glass wall (wall to wall floor to ceiling windows) at the listening end. We tried it against the 5 expensive interconnects he had at the time. The Acoustic Zen being the most expensive and also was the one that gave the best tonal balance for him. Fuller, warmer, dull top. Just what he needed, giving an easy, emotionally engaging, unfatiguing listen. My cable was more open, revealing, detail was great, a nice listen and the best really if we could have given it a tone control to turn down the top and turn up the bottom. He could fit a lot of carpet, including the walls, and big thick curtains over the glass. But he won't so the cable is his tone control and is partly why people pay so much for it.
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post #2254 of 2758
11/2/11 at 3:18am
I also tuned my Anthony Gallo Reference 3.5 with interconnect cables just recently. I changed my interconnects between Musical Fidelity A308 amp and Musical Fidelity Nu-Vista CDP to Cardas Golden Cross RCAs and that gave more meat, better bass response, real voices to the singers, more fluidity, a bit of warmth, more music and deeeeeeep sound stage. You can actually walk around the artists on the stage if you close your eyes. That is what I like about Gallos the most, the way how they portray music in 3D.

Cardas Golden Cross interconnect cables are not cheap but they are way better in my setup as my previous ICs Nordost Red Dawn. I tried also Nordost Tyr and Valhalla interconnects but still Nordost character stays and these cables are on my opinion best suitable in the system that are on the warm or dark side.

I gave second chance also to Anthony Gallo SA amplifier connected to AG Reference 3.5 speakers. Please see my previous post in this thread CLICK. This time i used high pass speaker connection to connect the MF integrated with AG SA amp and second pair of speaker cables to connect AG SA amp with the AG speaker SUB IN inputs to feed the second voice coil. Result was that I still experienced a bit of degradation in sound when listening to instrumental music, jazz, vocals. There is no big problem when listening to electronic music or rock music. Overall I can say that bass response is remarkable deep with AG SA amp. There is not more bass, but speakers really go deep and that is the feature I liked a lot. But still degradation stayed in the mid bass and highs. What i mean with degradation? Transients were not so explosive as without amp, there is a bit of bloat in the mid bass section and on some tracks that I know how they need to sound the mid bass was just like closed in a box and did not came from the distance infront. Highs are a bit nervous and edgy. There is a bit of spitting sound and that is the highest reason i did not decided to keep the AG SA amp in my system. So it might be that AG SA amp is bringing some electrical interference through second voice coil and the speaker's crossover. For now I think that my system sounds best without Anthony Gallo SA amplifier and this way my system also stays less complex. Maybe I will try it again some other time when I will have some other high class integrated in my system.

Now I think i did a circle and my hi-fi system is complete. Now is time for music.

best, d.
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post #2255 of 2758
11/2/11 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by Ian AS View Post

I think your just listening to the sound of your receiver. Seems the Stradas are more revealing so perhaps not the best choice for source equipment that's not nastiness free.

Though I wonder why AG didn't release a Strada version with the two extra 4 inch units to bolster the bass / low mid.

I changed to another silver wire interconnect this year and the sound was not a nice listen, harsh and thin, and started to wonder if the Stradas were partly to blame. I realised I had the wire in the wrong way around and the balance was better the other way. Then I changed the RCA plugs to Eichmann copper and that was a lot smoother (ie harshness, thickness, muddle pared out) and a much nicer listen.

A person just has to find something to give the right tonal balance.

I took the Eichmann'd cable over to a friend with a brightish high end system in a 25 x 15 foot live room with a glass wall (wall to wall floor to ceiling windows) at the listening end. We tried it against the 5 expensive interconnects he had at the time. The Acoustic Zen being the most expensive and also was the one that gave the best tonal balance for him. Fuller, warmer, dull top. Just what he needed, giving an easy, emotionally engaging, unfatiguing listen. My cable was more open, revealing, detail was great, a nice listen and the best really if we could have given it a tone control to turn down the top and turn up the bottom. He could fit a lot of carpet, including the walls, and big thick curtains over the glass. But he won't so the cable is his tone control and is partly why people pay so much for it.


I switched my silver speaker cable to a stiff copper cable that came with the Gallo micro's I bought years ago. The sound did smooth out and is now alot less harsh. I'm currently using an Harman Kardon 3490 to power the Strada's. The Ref A/V's do sound much fuller. Much more mid bass and punch.
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post #2256 of 2758
11/2/11 at 2:32pm
Guys, what sub do you use with Stradas?
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post #2257 of 2758
11/2/11 at 3:45pm
I use a 10" Velodyne
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post #2258 of 2758
11/3/11 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by jfklennon View Post

I use a 10" Velodyne

What model?
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post #2259 of 2758
11/3/11 at 2:54pm
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Originally Posted by Dr.sah View Post

What model?



Velodyne DEQ-10R
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post #2260 of 2758
11/4/11 at 12:20pm
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Originally Posted by Ian AS View Post

I was reading some words by AG in a review and it seemed to me that he was saying the wires INSIDE the Ref 3.5 were being charged by the olefin flakes / nylon 'sock' and passing electrostatic charge onto the core of the CDT3. And the OPT wiring was to discharge that.

The Strada have no flakes in the rear area to charge up the wires.

The the current running through the wires inside the speaker charge the Olefin flakes and this charge then bleeds back into the wires, capacitance. I believe the Strada may use an internal wire tied to the positive terminal rather than an external jumper, I'd need to ask Anthony to be sure though. Also, the Strada, being much smaller than the 3.5, have much less wire to charge the Olefin flake, and much less Olefin flake to hold that charge, so it may not be as advantageous. The OPT wire is also only one part of the OPT technology (OPT Level 2), there are other, mechanical, parts to it (OPT Level 1).


The 6moons reviews offer more complete descriptions...

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/gallo10/strada.html

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/gallo9/ref35.html
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post #2261 of 2758
11/5/11 at 12:07pm
I am interested in listening to them, however cant find a place around here
Any suggestions...

Thinking of strada and iNova
What do yo guys think...
Thanks
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post #2262 of 2758
11/8/11 at 11:51am
If you use sub with stradas, how hihg do you let the sub? I closed my velodyne at 65Hz for now? The speakers are on wall.
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post #2263 of 2758
11/9/11 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

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My original Gallo Solo speakers, that I've owned since new in the early '90s, are still in use in a secondary 2 channel system in my home. I feel this longevity of continuous use attests to the quality of Anthony Gallo products. As to the sound and whether or not it's over-kill for HT is your call. I desire nothing else for my Stereo/HT System

Yep Love Gallo stuff and LOVE the Solos for stereo music.

I compared them to Reference 3.1s a while back, and liked the Solos quite a bit better for vocals, although if I didn't have the Solos, I'd be happy with the Reference 3.1. Have not heard the 3.5.

The Solos do need a sub for electronic stuff (i use a Velodyne DD10, which matches them very well (once I ran its room equalization)).

In addition to great sound, most Gallos are some of the best looking speakers around, regardless of price.
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post #2264 of 2758
11/18/11 at 8:54am
Just some random musings about my 3.1's.

About three weeks ago I was doing some dusting in my living room and decided to reposition my speakers. I pulled them away from the front wall to about three feet into the room and swapped the left and right so that the woofers were facing each other. I could never do this before because my S.O. wouldn't allow it but we split up several months ago so I said what the hell. The improvement in the imaging and the soundstage was immediately apparent, better depth and separation, the change was night and day.

The bass was also much better, so much so that I turned off my subamp and listened happily without it for several weeks. It seemed tighter and faster with the woofers facing in and made me realize how much the previous positioning was compromising my system. However one night a friend came over and while I was out of the room, she put on a Lyle Lovett CD. When I walked back in the room, I immedately noticed a problem. After she left I turned on and backed down the subamp and music had a completely different flavor from a bass perspective, there was stuff there that was missing before and I don't mean just a bigger thump from a bass drum.

I'm still tweeking the boost, crossover and phase on the amp based on the repositioned speakers but I can't envision running without it again. I don't listen to classical or organ music, which is more likely to cover the lower register and movies are not that important to me from an LFE perspective, but when I listen to my music, I want to hear it all.

Where am I going with this? I was considering an upgrade to the 3.5 and I guess I'm not sure I could recommend the 3.1 or the 3.5 as a full range speaker.... as a complete system, without a standalone sub or the subamp, even with what I would classify as popular, electronic or classic rock music. I heard the 3.5 at a dealer six months ago and I didn't really notice a significant difference, bass wise, between it and the 3.1. The dealer did not have a subamp connected. I realize this is not a fair comparison since it was in different rooms and different times but I've had the 3.1's since late 2006 so I am quite familiar with them. How many of you 3.1 and 3.5 owners are running without a sub or subamp are satisfied with the performance? What kinds of music do you prefer? I guess this is somewhat of a poll, somewhat a point for discussion and somewhat a quest for information, based on the fact that both models have been available for some time now and you owners have had time to live with the speaker and are hopefully able to give an experienced and unbiased evealuation, from a low frequency perspective.

Thanks,
Iceman
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post #2265 of 2758
11/18/11 at 9:34am
I tried my 3.1s initially with the subs pointed out and then tried them pointed in and found that like you, the sound was better in. I also have mine out from the wall as far as my cables will allow but would like to have them a bit further...currently only about a foot and a half out. I don't run a sub amp on the 3.1s but have a B&W ASW2000 in the room (It's a dedicated home theatre setup so the gallos serve dual purpose as a 2.1 system and a 5.1 system)...I'd have to say that for most music I don't feel the sub kicks in at all but I have the crossover set very low on it since the gallo's go quite low even without the sub-amp...I only really notice real "subsonic" sound with some movie soundtracks...
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post #2266 of 2758
11/19/11 at 5:05am
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Originally Posted by IcemanDallas View Post

Just some random musings about my 3.1's.

About three weeks ago I was doing some dusting in my living room and decided to reposition my speakers. I pulled them away from the front wall to about three feet into the room and swapped the left and right so that the woofers were facing each other. I could never do this before because my S.O. wouldn't allow it but we split up several months ago so I said what the hell. The improvement in the imaging and the soundstage was immediately apparent, better depth and separation, the change was night and day.

The bass was also much better, so much so that I turned off my subamp and listened happily without it for several weeks. It seemed tighter and faster with the woofers facing in and made me realize how much the previous positioning was compromising my system. However one night a friend came over and while I was out of the room, she put on a Lyle Lovett CD. When I walked back in the room, I immedately noticed a problem. After she left I turned on and backed down the subamp and music had a completely different flavor from a bass perspective, there was stuff there that was missing before and I don't mean just a bigger thump from a bass drum.

I'm still tweeking the boost, crossover and phase on the amp based on the repositioned speakers but I can't envision running without it again. I don't listen to classical or organ music, which is more likely to cover the lower register and movies are not that important to me from an LFE perspective, but when I listen to my music, I want to hear it all.

Where am I going with this? I was considering an upgrade to the 3.5 and I guess I'm not sure I could recommend the 3.1 or the 3.5 as a full range speaker.... as a complete system, without a standalone sub or the subamp, even with what I would classify as popular, electronic or classic rock music. I heard the 3.5 at a dealer six months ago and I didn't really notice a significant difference, bass wise, between it and the 3.1. The dealer did not have a subamp connected. I realize this is not a fair comparison since it was in different rooms and different times but I've had the 3.1's since late 2006 so I am quite familiar with them. How many of you 3.1 and 3.5 owners are running without a sub or subamp are satisfied with the performance? What kinds of music do you prefer? I guess this is somewhat of a poll, somewhat a point for discussion and somewhat a quest for information, based on the fact that both models have been available for some time now and you owners have had time to live with the speaker and are hopefully able to give an experienced and unbiased evealuation, from a low frequency perspective.

Thanks,
Iceman

What amplifier are you using? I have found that by providing more power these really open up and also extend the lower response quite nicely. I am using a D-Sonic ICE based amp and it made quite an improvement over my previous amplifier.
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post #2267 of 2758
11/19/11 at 7:44am
I'm running an NHT amp with 200 wpc Icepower modules, in a medium sized living room. I played around with the SA yesterday and set the crossover at 40hz. Boost is flat and the level on each channel is set at 12:00. Not a lot of attenuation but it's still suprising the difference it makes on what I consider mainstream music. Lyle Lovett's Joshua Judges Ruth and David Grey's White Ladder have multiple tracks that sound completely different when the SA is engaged. Donald Fagan's Morph The Cat and Alison Krauss & Union Station's It Doesn't Matter are other examples. Maybe they are doing something "synthetic" on these tracks but the difference is starkly obvious.

limbery - I'm not actually "feeling" the bass as you would with a soundtrack, I'm not really cranking it but the difference is definately audible.
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post #2268 of 2758
12/8/11 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by delfincek View Post

You can actually walk around the artists on the stage if you close your eyes. That is what I like about Gallos the most, the way how they portray music in 3D.

best, d.

Agreed!
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post #2269 of 2758
12/9/11 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by IcemanDallas View Post

I'm running an NHT amp with 200 wpc Icepower modules, in a medium sized living room.

I had Icepower modules for a long long time, but found them to sound a little cold.
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post #2270 of 2758
12/9/11 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by IcemanDallas View Post

I'm running an NHT amp with 200 wpc Icepower modules, in a medium sized living room.

I had Icepower modules for a long long time, but found them to sound a little cold.

Sorry, but I chuckled a bit with these postings. Does anyone else see the punnyness
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post #2271 of 2758
12/11/11 at 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by IcemanDallas View Post

Just some random musings about my 3.1's.

About three weeks ago I was doing some dusting in my living room and decided to reposition my speakers. .............................

Where am I going with this? ...................... How many of you 3.1 and 3.5 owners are running without a sub or subamp are satisfied with the performance? What kinds of music do you prefer? I guess this is somewhat of a poll, somewhat a point for discussion and somewhat a quest for information, based on the fact that both models have been available for some time now and you owners have had time to live with the speaker and are hopefully able to give an experienced and unbiased evealuation, from a low frequency perspective.

Thanks,
Iceman

I've had a pair of 3.0s since late 04, soon after they came out. I've always thought they sounded thin in the mid to deep bass. Somewhat of a moot point since I've always run them with a Paradigm Servo-15. When I've run Audyssey XT32 measurements, the algorithm sets them as "small" but sets the xover at 40 Hz, which is telling me that they are pretty flat down to the low bass region (generally considered < 40-50 Hz). So perhaps what happens is most people who listen to 3.x's (or other "non-box" type speakers) are taken aback initially because they are accustomed to artificially emphasized mid-bass in their box type speakers.

I do listen to a lot of material with significant content < 40Hz, so I don't think there is any question that 3.X's need some type of bass augmentation below 40 Hz. You simply do not get the tactile pressure wave sensations when an orchestral bass drum is struck or an organ or synth pedal note rumbles through a legitimate sub or full range speaker with the 3.x's running alone. I don't think any amount of cute engineering tricks is going to accomplish that without something bigger than a 10" driver in a larger enclosure and/or excessive amounts of power and equalization.
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post #2272 of 2758
12/26/11 at 6:10pm
I have a pair of the new Classico IV's with that 25 watt Dayen's Ampino amp breaking in at the moment. I have 100 hours on the amp and about 50 hours on the Classico IV's. So far, very nice!
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12/26/11 at 7:01pm
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I have a pair of the new Classico IV's with that 25 watt Dayen's Ampino amp breaking in at the moment. I have 100 hours on the amp and about 50 hours on the Classico IV's. So far, very nice!

Nice, very interested in your up coming impressions after you've given 'em a good listen.
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post #2274 of 2758
1/10/12 at 4:49pm
Hi all,

M new to this site and would like some info regarding what (other than the tr3) subs I can use with the strada side.
My room is 5m wide by 6.2m long and m looking at getting a sub with eq built in.knot sure to either go for 2 smaller subs or one 13".
This set up is for my lounge room and only for listening to music(I may expand to full surround eventually).
Can anybody recommend so e brands and model of subs and usually what connection are better to use
Sincerely yours
John
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post #2275 of 2758
1/10/12 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by Jmstpierre View Post

Hi all,

M new to this site and would like some info regarding what (other than the tr3) subs I can use with the strada side.
My room is 5m wide by 6.2m long and m looking at getting a sub with eq built in.knot sure to either go for 2 smaller subs or one 13".
This set up is for my lounge room and only for listening to music(I may expand to full surround eventually).
Can anybody recommend so e brands and model of subs and usually what connection are better to use
Sincerely yours
John

I've heard a pre-production version of the new Classico 10" sub playing with some Stradas, and was blown away by how powerful and articulate it was. You should see if you can hear the production version which should be available now. There is also a 12" version.

P.S. here's a link... http://www.roundsound.com/classico-cl-s.php
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post #2276 of 2758
1/10/12 at 5:36pm
Hi mate and thanks for replying.
I will try and investigate their new subs.
Do you know if they have a eq built in?
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post #2277 of 2758
1/10/12 at 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by Jmstpierre View Post

Do you know if they have a eq built in?

Not sure what you mean by "eq built in"(?) I know they have: phase, cross-over, and volume control, on them.
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post #2278 of 2758
1/10/12 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by Jmstpierre View Post

Hi mate and thanks for replying.
I will try and investigate their new subs.
Do you know if they have a eq built in?

No, they don't have something like Paradigm's Perfect Bass Kit.


Max
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post #2279 of 2758
1/11/12 at 8:44am
More new stuff coming from AGA...

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Originally Posted by http://www.hometoys.com View Post


ANTHONY GALLO ACOUSTICS OFFERS SNEAK PREVIEW OF FIRST-EVER ON-WALL SPEAKERS AND SUBWOOFERS AT CES 2012
For more info visit: http://roundsound.com

The collection consists of three on-wall speakers and a floor standing speaker all with 2 drivers, and subwoofers with 6, 8 and 10 drivers, which are designed to be free-standing, on-wall or in-wall.

Submitted to HomeToys.com on: 01/03/2012, 11:44 am

CHATSWORTH, CA, January 3, 2012Anthony Gallo Acoustics (AGA), designer and manufacturer of award-winning stereo and home theater speakers, will be previewing its new concept ultra-thin, on-wall high-performance speakers and subwoofers at CES 2012 in Venetian room 29-332. The new speakers were designed to be some of the most compact on the market, while still delivering the signature, award-winning AGA sound.

The collection consists of three on-wall speakers and a floor standing speaker all with 2 drivers, and subwoofers with 6, 8 and 10 drivers, which are designed to be free-standing, on-wall or in-wall. All of the products have a crossover-less design and include the company's patented S2 Technology, which enhances low-frequency extension.

Each speaker will be a slender 1 3/4 deep and 3 5/8 wide. The 12 on-wall has two drivers, the 24 has four drivers, and the 30 on-wall center channel has five drivers. There will also be a 48 floor standing speaker sporting six drivers. Each on-wall speaker will have matching table and floor stands available as accessories.

The company will have more information available at CES, and media are encouraged to stop by the room to learn more about this state-of-the-art on-wall series of loudspeakers and subwoofers.

Visit us at Facebook.com/AnthonyGalloAcoustics for more news and updates from AGA.

http://www.hometoys.com/news_detail.php?id=17111128
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1/11/12 at 4:43pm
Found a few pix on the AGA facebook page...





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