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post #2401 of 2935
I'm using XLR for pream-amp connection. Sub are connected one RCA chanel on sub.

They play fantastic, Im so impresd. It is bigg difference between one and two subs.

And, TR3 is better integrated with Stradas as my ex Velodyne.
post #2402 of 2935
Nice article on a Classico surround system...

http://www.avguide.com/review/anthony-gallo-acoustics-classico-cl-3-51-channel-speaker-system-tpv-110#

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post #2403 of 2935
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

Nice article on a Classico surround system...
http://www.avguide.com/review/anthony-gallo-acoustics-classico-cl-3-51-channel-speaker-system-tpv-110#
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Anyone know if those M/Ws are from the same supplier/similar design to the mids in the 3.5s & Stradas? I realize they're larger.
post #2404 of 2935
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Originally Posted by russ_777 View Post

Anyone know if those M/Ws are from the same supplier/similar design to the mids in the 3.5s & Stradas? I realize they're larger.

They're from a different manufacturer, and made to different specs.
post #2405 of 2935
Interesting bit of news...

The Classico line is now only available manufacturer direct, with greatly reduced pricing, and a 60 day no risk (free shipping both ways) in home audition policy.

http://www.roundsound.com/shop/
post #2406 of 2935
I recently decided to sell my stand mount monitor speakers to move into a pair of floor stands for my 2 ch system.

I am considering a number of speakers including the 3.5's, however, there is no AG dealer anywhere near me. The nearest is an 8 hr drive in Montreal that I know of.

My front end consists of a Simaudio i7, Simaudio Supernova CD player, Wadia 170i dock and a Bryston BDA1 DAC. I browsed through the posts to see if I could find and reference of using Simaudio with the AG 3.5's, but I didn't so my apologies if I missed it. Does anyone have any experience using the Ref 3.5's speakers with Simaudio gear?

My room is approximately 11' x 33' x 8' ceilings. My system faces the long direction and I sit roughly 10 to 12 ft from the front wall. I like base, but I prefer not to overwhelm the room with an overly obtrusive speaker as well to obtain base.

I listen to a mixture of rock, pop, folk, new age. Rarely any country or classical.

What are your thoughts on using the 3.5's based on my gear/room and musical tastes?
post #2407 of 2935
You might want to consider the Classico CL-3 speakers; I just got them a couple of months ago, and they are excellent. I don't know if the free shipping and 60-day trial would extend to Canada, but you can call them on the phone and find out.

The Absolute Sound has a great article on them in the last issue (July/August).
post #2408 of 2935
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post


It's just a larger piece of the same material that the 3.5 base is made of, Garolite, it's a phenolic resin. It also has another layer of the visco-elastic gel under it, but I wouldn't expect that would be needed/useful when on carpet as in your set up.


Seen here...

Where would one purchase this "Garolite" material to make a base? I have carpet over concrete, apparently one of the least preferred floors for acoustics. I have not purchased the 3.5's yet, but I can see this gel like substance being a real mess if placed directly on carpet. I much prefer the idea of spikes. I understand the speakers come with a plastic coating over the bottom gel surface. Any negatives in leaving this in place? What about making a base out of MDF?
post #2409 of 2935
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Originally Posted by commsysman View Post

You might want to consider the Classico CL-3 speakers; I just got them a couple of months ago, and they are excellent. I don't know if the free shipping and 60-day trial would extend to Canada, but you can call them on the phone and find out.
The Absolute Sound has a great article on them in the last issue (July/August).

Thanks, but if I get any of the Gallo's, it will be the 3.5's. It is the appearance of them that first got my attention as they are so non-traditional. And if they are as good as they say, well that is great too. Is there a reason you suggest the Classico's over the 3.5's for my gear/room/musical tastes?
post #2410 of 2935
I am considering a pair of CL-4s to replace Salk STs in my largish LR where the STs are getting lost.
Will be powered with a Bryston 4B SST2.

Anyone do a comparison of CL-4s with the ref 3.5? I would have loved the refs but the wife is not keen on the unusual styling.

I like the idea of 60 day home trial - but thought I'd still ask here...

thanks!
post #2411 of 2935
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Originally Posted by bluemark81 View Post

Where would one purchase this "Garolite" material to make a base? I have carpet over concrete, apparently one of the least preferred floors for acoustics. I have not purchased the 3.5's yet, but I can see this gel like substance being a real mess if placed directly on carpet. I much prefer the idea of spikes. I understand the speakers come with a plastic coating over the bottom gel surface. Any negatives in leaving this in place? What about making a base out of MDF?

Sorry for the delayed reply. The Gel on carpet is a non issue, it does not ooze or stain in any way. I've got mine on a white wool burber carpet for some time now and there is no evidance of their position after they've been moved. If you still want an extra slab I believe you can get them from Gallo directly. Shoot an email to customer service there.

http://www.roundsound.com/shop/contacts/ or support@rounsound.com
post #2412 of 2935
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Originally Posted by nocrapman View Post

I am considering a pair of CL-4s to replace Salk STs in my largish LR where the STs are getting lost.
Will be powered with a Bryston 4B SST2.
Anyone do a comparison of CL-4s with the ref 3.5? I would have loved the refs but the wife is not keen on the unusual styling.
I like the idea of 60 day home trial - but thought I'd still ask here...
thanks!

Having listened to both myself, I'll say this guy pretty much nails it in his review...

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/floor-standing-speakers/floor-standing-speakers-reviews/gallo-classico-cl-4-loudspeakers/page-3-set-up-and-in-use.html

The CL IV is a great value.
post #2413 of 2935
Hey Barry,
Do u mind summarizing your own impressions?
post #2414 of 2935
The Reference has a bit more Air, Detail, and Speed, the CL-IV a bit more midrange presence and a bit more weight down on the lowest octaves. They are both cut from the same cloth, and listening to them you can tell they're obviously from the same manufacturer. If 'She Who Must Be Obeyed' doesn't like the look of the 3.5, the CL-IV is a great speaker with the Gallo sound that will fit comfortably into a shared living space. I heared them in a 24x34x9 room and they had no problems filling the space with a large and detailed sound-stage. I'm saving for a set of the CL-IIIs for my shared living space wink.gif
post #2415 of 2935
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

The Reference has a bit more Air, Detail, and Speed, the CL-IV a bit more midrange presence and a bit more weight down on the lowest octaves. They are both cut from the same cloth, and listening to them you can tell they're obviously from the same manufacturer. If 'She Who Must Be Obeyed' doesn't like the look of the 3.5, the CL-IV is a great speaker with the Gallo sound that will fit comfortably into a shared living space. I heared them in a 24x34x9 room and they had no problems filling the space with a large and detailed sound-stage. I'm saving for a set of the CL-IIIs for my shared living space wink.gif

Thank you much!

I have not seen many user reviews so I have been pestering folks for the same.
As much as I like absolute sound, I read the reviews with a healthy amount of skepticism since I never really see anything bad written about most products - at any price point. And their revenues need to keep flowing from these same sources. So your brief account helps much!

I will be back to report on my experience once they come in and have been broken in by early Sept.
post #2416 of 2935
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Originally Posted by nocrapman View Post

Thank you much!
I have not seen many user reviews so I have been pestering folks for the same.
As much as I like absolute sound, I read the reviews with a healthy amount of skepticism since I never really see anything bad written about most products - at any price point. And their revenues need to keep flowing from these same sources. So your brief account helps much!
I will be back to report on my experience once they come in and have been broken in by early Sept.

Although I haven't heard the CLs based on the design I would be pretty confident they don't have the bass slam that the 3.5s do....which is basically what Chris Goppi says in the review above. Also, with good amplification, the 3.5s can play very loud without distorting.

BTW, if your wife doesn't like the the styling of the 3.5s, just get them with the fabric covers and they are very innocuous. In fact they have almost the same form factor as the CLs with the fabric covers on...they just don't have any wood surfaces.
post #2417 of 2935
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

CL-IV a bit more midrange presence and a bit more weight down on the lowest octaves
Barry is that when played loud? Or also at lower and medium?

Going by those reviews, he says the bass distortion, and I presume therefore sense of bass loudness, increases at higher volume settings.

Also they are saying that the 3.5's can be tricky to get the bass volume, they assume due to the side firing speakers.

I just calculated the piston area of the 4 x 5.25 inch cones at 87 inches² and the 1 x 10 inch cone at 79 inches² so by that loose reckoning, the CL4 might pump a bit more air. The fact the the whole 10 incher is near the floor might account for the louder bass that is reported from the 3.5's, compared to the 5.25" cones being further and further from the floor.

Another possibility might be that the 10 incher might move proportionally further at lower frequencies that the four smaller cones add up to either by design, or it might have more overhang than the lighter cones. AG has stated he feels an array of smaller cones is better in this way (less overhang, faster), but if you look at the data of smaller cones they often have a much higher Fs than larger cones so would not produce the lower bass even in a TL speaker enclosure design. But AG perhaps has had these 5.25 carbon drive units specially made so they can make lower bass? I seem to have only questions!
post #2418 of 2935
Just purchased the 3.5's. I should have them within 10 days.
post #2419 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Ian AS View Post

I seem to have only questions!

Hi Ian, well I'm no speaker designer, the last set I built was a HS shop project. They turned out rather well, and I used them through college and after, but I digress...

I think much of the increased low bass output can be attributed to the bass-loading of the cabinet. The Ref 3.x speakers do have a rather large cone, but it's got very little air behind it, therefore a lot of resistance to its movement. The CL-IV has much more air, and its TL/Port system to help utilize the back wave of those cones to increase the low frequency output, and due to the ease of moving its 4 smaller lighter cones, is able to dig a bit deeper. And yes, I feel they have that increased LF output at lower volumes as well as higher. Also getting more bass energy out of the Ref 3.x is doable via the second voice coil. This is because the driver can handle the power, and when it's given more power it will readily produce more output, but that additional LF power isn't needed with the Classico line.

Also, it should be noted that I haven't lived with any Classico speakers, but I have had some good listening sessions with them and A/B'd them against the Ref 3.5 at those sessions. I know that this is not the same as living with them, and it should be understood that my impressions are based on these experiences.
post #2420 of 2935
I got to hear the CL-4's this weekend at the CAI Show this weekend. I thought they sounded great. I was a little pissed because I really wanted to hear the 3.5's and do a comparison just to see how different they sounded but the Rep wouldn't hook them up. He said they were going to play them the next day and that I had to return and hear them then. That didn't work for me since I flew out from Vegas just for the day. Pretty sad, one of the the speakers I flew out to see sitting there and I couldn't hear them. I will say this about the CL-4's, they are tiny! It is amazing they can put out the sound they do.
post #2421 of 2935
Hey Folks,
Thanks for all the excellent comments.
Unfortunately as much as I want the 3.5s, the wife did not like the look with and without the hoodie!

On the other hand the I think the CL-4s will fit the bill better in a living room setup with kids running around.

I do wonder if I may cause some damage to the speakers with the power that the 4Bsst2 puts out since the CL-4 are pretty high in efficiency at 92db and at 4 ohms the Bryston will put out 500watts if I remember correctly.
post #2422 of 2935
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Originally Posted by nocrapman View Post

Hey Folks,
Thanks for all the excellent comments.
Unfortunately as much as I want the 3.5s, the wife did not like the look with and without the hoodie!
On the other hand the I think the CL-4s will fit the bill better in a living room setup with kids running around.
I do wonder if I may cause some damage to the speakers with the power that the 4Bsst2 puts out since the CL-4 are pretty high in efficiency at 92db and at 4 ohms the Bryston will put out 500watts if I remember correctly.

I think you'll be fine with that much power as long as you don't get goofy with the volume knob wink.gif

Looking forward to your impressions.
post #2423 of 2935
Does TR-3D has black or white driver inside? Om all pictures is white in the middle, but mine are black.

And, in one sub I hear strange sound from amp module in sub, some click click sound, like some reley inside.
post #2424 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Dr.sah View Post

Does TR-3D has black or white driver inside? Om all pictures is white in the middle, but mine are black.
And, in one sub I hear strange sound from amp module in sub, some click click sound, like some reley inside.

Dr. Sah,

The new TR-3d does have a black woofer, I think some of the photos may have been done with pre-production units.

Regarding the clicking sound, you should contact Bill Fried in support @ 800-459-4183 EXT 103 to get that issue resolved.

Good luck, Barry
post #2425 of 2935
CL-IVs are home!

Hey Folks,

CL4s got home just as the weekend began.
I have been burning them in.

Initial impressions:

Good solid packing, nothing fancy.
No white gloves!!
Fit and finish seems pretty good, not outstanding but decent at this pricepoint.
Much smaller than my Salk STs... which the wife is excited about. Much less conspicous in our living room.
Not too stable on the carpet... no spikes!! Bummed about that.
With kids running around I will have to come up with some solution. Since these speakers arent too heavy and pretty narrow in profile, even a gentle push will topple them over.
Gallo suggests using little foam pads on the base even on carpet... I did not... it will make them even more tippy!

Sound:
I will save my impressions till they fully burn in but initial sound is pleasing.
Pretty wide dispersion and excellent sound even way off axis! Very happy about this.
Sensitivity is supposed to be high @ 92dbs per spec sheet but in my use, it more closely matches the STs (?87db) since I had to set the volume at a similar setting which I was surprised about. Anyway I have ample power behind them with the Bryston 4B SST2, so I am not concerned about underpowering them.
Running them full range since wife wanted me to remove the subs from the living area, and I do miss the thump that a good sub will provide. At 8" away from the wall behind and 3' away from side walls, the lower end is decent but not incredible by any means at this point. I am hoping that they will open up a little bit in time, but if they dont, I might be happy regardless since I have 2 other decent setups in the house.

Will report back soon with further findings.
post #2426 of 2935
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Originally Posted by nocrapman View Post

CL-IVs are home!

...Snip...

Will report back soon with further findings.

Any updates? Inquiring minds want to know wink.gif
post #2427 of 2935
Any Strada and two tr-3 owner here?

How high do you frequency filetr on sub?

Have stradas on wall, and subs bellow, and my filter is on 90hz.
post #2428 of 2935
Hi,

I´m an owner of the amazing Reference 3.5. It is like listening music in another way... more transparent and neutral than anything I heard before... even 2 or 3 times the price of the Gallos biggrin.gif. It acts like a perfect translator of any kind music..smile.gif I have more 1300 hours on them. At this very moment I have two questions:

- I already read about the benefits of the Mapleshade mods on the Ref 3.1 but none on the Ref 3.5. I understand the actual Stand outperforms the ones in the 3.1. Any comments or experience on this issue? Any benefit if I put a maple slab under the actual 3.5 stand? Or it is useless? I saw on the internet some granite slabs under the speaker... eek.gif

- The 3.5 is rated 8 Ohms. How steady is this number in the frequency range?

Thank you for your time reading this post and greetings from Peru...smile.gif
post #2429 of 2935
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Originally Posted by joarfeve View Post

- The 3.5 is rated 8 Ohms. How steady is this number in the frequency range?
Thank you for your time reading this post and greetings from Peru...smile.gif

I found the following article with measurement data...

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/floor-standing-speakers/floor-standing-speakers-reviews/anthony-gallo-acoustics-reference-35-loudspeakers.html
post #2430 of 2935
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Thank you very much Barry....biggrin.gif
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