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post #2551 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Ian AS View Post

I have. A Strada carbon drive unit was making clicking sounds at lower frequencies. Not audible in most music but during patches of bass then it was. I identified it using test tone spot frequencies then a signal generator. Contacted Gallo who said they'd been very reliable but would send over to the UK a new drive unit as the speakers were still under warranty. I spoke to the UK Gallo importer and we agreed that I'd do the swap myself. I took the old drive unit out and connected it to the signal generator on the bench and identified specific frequencies that it made a clicking sound. I didn't ascertain why it's doing it. The magnet doesn't come off to view the coil and former. I've had outer edge compliances make clicking before, on other makes, where glue was spread too far and stuck to the rubber half roll near each XMax and click when it moved away again.
Either way, changing the drive unit is a pain in the nuisance and I began to think I should have let the Gallo outfit take the stress! But they wouldn't cover what I felt was a significant postage cost for the whole Strada from me to them, even though it's a warranty repair! And we used to design and manufacturer out own make of speakers so I didn't expect any difficulties I couldn't deal with so I got on with it. The Olefin flake in the netting, err, requires calm patience and plenty of time to get it all back in there in a right way, it mustn't be packed too tight, it must be spread out well but not interfere with the reverse movement of the drive unit cone. It seems to have a disagreeable mind of it's own and puts up a fight to ones efforts! It's messy as well, leaking flake all over the place.
Then there's the internal wiring to contend with. 1mm copper rod and they joined it in places wire to wire and wrapped a tough felt like cloth tape around it that needs to be removed and doesn't want to come off. To get one of the wires apart I needed to take the coil out and that needed more patience and the correct Allan key which I didn't have so I had to pull the wire though which is awkward with stiff 1mm wire. Being that I prefer to have minimal joints in the signal path I was a bit disappointed that there was a join in the wire that connect the two drive units in series but I can see why they did it, to facilitate easier production. They must have a 'specialist' fit all the Olefin and drive units, then someone later joins the wires, rather than fit one drive unit, solder them together, then fit the other. I also didn't like the PCB and wire layout as I'm also very averse to copper track in the signal path and there was some I thought didn't need to be there, probably there to again make construction a bit faster. The various Allan bolts are a mix of mainly imperial and maybe some metric which I did have but expected all metric. I am very extreme when it comes to joining components, it pays dividends in the extent of revealing detail and removing harshness and veiling in the sound but I've personally found that very few people are bothered by this and don't consider it a priority and are happy with a relatively blurred sound that gives them more boom and tizz or whatever. The better tonal balance is what we all want of course but I try and get both because over two decades of tinkering I found that I can; by taking the lids off of everything and reconstructing the insides at component level. I don't think anyone in this thread does this kind of thing, it's the preserve of folks over at DIY Audio. Here it's about plugging boxes to other boxes, and more recently, using some buttons to set some software. I've found there is some useful stuff about software setting and drivers and hardware for PC based audio here in AVS.
Anyway, that aside, if you're speaker is clicking then perhaps take it back to the dealer, likely not that they will want to, or be able to, fix it but perhaps they can send it on to someone who can. If the Strada are tricky to work in, then I expect the 3.5 will be a lot more so.

Thank You. I was hoping not to hear a story like that. Whats funny is the 3.4 dynaudios i bought 8 years ago had a similar issue when the dealer installed them. Fortunately the dealer installed them and heard the problem so there was no question of the defect. They replaced the speaker, they didn't send back for repair. I really hope Gallo/Dealer gives me a replacement. I prefer not having a repaired speaker. I deff wont try to fix myself. I hope they don't make me ship them the defective one without them providing a replacement first.

Also would note that after messing with placement and a little adjustements in the room the Gallos sound fantastic.
Edited by jeffpoos - 11/26/12 at 7:39pm
post #2552 of 2935
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Originally Posted by jeffpoos View Post

I didnt see any repsonses about replacing a speaker. Anyone do this before?

I have. Bill Fried at Gallo has always been very accommodating. They will either fix it or send you a replacement quickly. They will e-mail you a pre-paid shipping label the same day you call to send the defective unit back.

Cheers,
OldMovieNut
post #2553 of 2935
Does anyone know how to remove the woofer from an MPS-150? I need to replace the phone jack Gallo used for speaker input on mine, because it's intermittent.

Or I need to replace the wire; perhaps the jack is fine, but it has that stupid 18AWG solid core garbage Gallo sells inside it, and the jostling the sub took during my move last August broke that pathetically fragile wire. At any rate, I need to remove the woofer to diagnose the bad connection and get the little sub working again.

The woofer does not appear to be screwed in. I thought the four legs might be hiding mounting screws (Gallo tapped four of the mounting holes on the Peerless woofer for the legs) but no dice.
post #2554 of 2935
Anyone have any more info on the Strada II yet?
post #2555 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Simple SU View Post

Anyone have any more info on the Strada II yet?

I haven't seen or heard one yet. It's my understanding that it looks identical to the original Strada. Here is what Gallo says:

New Ferrite carbon fiber drivers
New matching transformers
New DC blocking capacitors and by-pass capacitors
Updated S2 configuration

Performance differences:

2db higher sensitivity
Better projection over longer distances
Better detail/articulation at low volumes
Dynamic contrasts are more even across the whole frequency range
post #2556 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Ian AS View Post

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/gallo10/strada.html I think it may have been this review. He tried valve and solid state. Concluded SS was better. Said he felt valves defeated the point of the Stradas which is their extreme speed and clarity. Valves driving them sounded soft and blurred. You may as well get soft blurred speakers instead.
Or this one: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/gallo10/sidebar.html Good photos of the Stradas insides here.

I've been running my Stradas with a Manley Stingray iTube (Mullard 6201s & EL84s) and am glad I didnt go BLINDLY with the reviewers recommendation of SS amps. wink.gif

Tried them first with a Densen B-320 (100wpc) and the stradas sounded bright & thin.
Then I tried a Wyred4soundST-500 (250wpc) but the sound was dry and uninvolving.

Finally with the Stingray, these sound absolutely spectacular.
Edited by SOUNDADDICT - 11/28/12 at 1:30am
post #2557 of 2935
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Originally Posted by OldMovieNut View Post

I have. Bill Fried at Gallo has always been very accommodating. They will either fix it or send you a replacement quickly. They will e-mail you a pre-paid shipping label the same day you call to send the defective unit back.
Cheers,
OldMovieNut

Talked with Bill Fried. Bill was friendly. I'm going to send for warranty work. They are making me pay for shipping which is extremely disappointing on a newly purchased product. Deff not the way i would run a business. I wasn't in the best of moods so i didn't feel like arguing at that point, cause it might have gotten ugly. Not sure if Gallo reads this thread but a new product with a potential defect should never cost me more. Just passing along. . .still love the Gallos though smile.gif
post #2558 of 2935
I'm having a small issue with a TR1-D. The auto on isn't working. It's probably not sensitive enough as it never seems to turn on with this setting.

Edit: I was able to solve this problem by increasing the channel level on my receiver for the subwoofer until the auto-on feature triggered reliably (+9). I then turned down the level on the subwoofer.
Edited by MaxGeek - 12/1/12 at 7:07pm
post #2559 of 2935
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Originally Posted by jeffpoos View Post

Talked with Bill Fried. Bill was friendly. I'm going to send for warranty work. They are making me pay for shipping which is extremely disappointing on a newly purchased product. Deff not the way i would run a business. I wasn't in the best of moods so i didn't feel like arguing at that point, cause it might have gotten ugly. Not sure if Gallo reads this thread but a new product with a potential defect should never cost me more. Just passing along. . .still love the Gallos though smile.gif

Did you buy from a dealer or direct?
post #2560 of 2935
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Originally Posted by OldMovieNut View Post

Did you buy from a dealer or direct?

Through a dealer
post #2561 of 2935
Me also, through a dealer. I guess if I'd taken the faulty unit back to that dealer he'd have had to foot the bill for the return post. But the time, cost and difficulty to me to get it back to the dealer were not much different to just paying it myself.
post #2562 of 2935
Currently have TR3 subs to go with a pair of Strada's. The foot on one of my subs broke (I mean one of the four) a few months ago. My dealer had it replaced but now it happened to the second sub. Are there other alternatives? The Mapleshade ones are too expensive for me.
post #2563 of 2935
A teaser on the Strada2 from 6 moons. I wonder if the Strada 1 can be factory modded to Strada 2 status?

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/gallo14/1.html

Esau
post #2564 of 2935
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Originally Posted by jeffpoos View Post

Through a dealer

Maybe that's why. There are no dealers around me
so I bought factory direct.

Cheers,
OldMovieNut
post #2565 of 2935
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Originally Posted by HowardV View Post

I haven't seen or heard one yet. It's my understanding that it looks identical to the original Strada. Here is what Gallo says:

New Ferrite carbon fiber drivers
New matching transformers
New DC blocking capacitors and by-pass capacitors
Updated S2 configuration

Performance differences:

2db higher sensitivity
Better projection over longer distances
Better detail/articulation at low volumes
Dynamic contrasts are more even across the whole frequency range

Seems as if the crossover to the "tweeter" has been changed to 6kHz thus resulting in a 2-3db rise in sensitivity. The voice coil winding layers of the "woofer" have been reduced from 4 to 2.
post #2566 of 2935
What's a good price for used Strada's now that the Strada 2's are on the way?
post #2567 of 2935
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Originally Posted by MaxGeek View Post

What's a good price for used Strada's now that the Strada 2's are on the way?

Gallo is having an authorized factory sale on the old Strada right now. They're now $800 each (were $1,000). That's retail and I'm sure you can talk a dealer into an even better price. Possibly even get some dealer demo's for much less with warranty. Shoot me a PM if you're interested in these.
post #2568 of 2935
Just purchased a pair of Gallo Classico 3's, but they didn't come with spikes. The viscous pads will not work with them on an oriental, therefore I need to find out where to purchase the spikes. Can anyone help?
By the way, I love these babies.
post #2569 of 2935
Try looking at Parts-Express.com for speaker spikes.
post #2570 of 2935
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Originally Posted by HowardV View Post

Gallo is having an authorized factory sale on the old Strada right now. They're now $800 each (were $1,000). That's retail and I'm sure you can talk a dealer into an even better price. Possibly even get some dealer demo's for much less with warranty. Shoot me a PM if you're interested in these.

Thanks Howard. I'm probably going to wait and see what happens with the Ref 3.5 now that new Strada 2's are on the way.
post #2571 of 2935
Thanks.
post #2572 of 2935
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Originally Posted by guillermo1118 View Post

Just purchased a pair of Gallo Classico 3's, but they didn't come with spikes. The viscous pads will not work with them on an oriental, therefore I need to find out where to purchase the spikes. Can anyone help?
By the way, I love these babies.

Feedback on the Classico 3's?
post #2573 of 2935
Hi guys !

Just got my Strada II speakers and theese are fantastic sounding speakers. However there has been some issues with the floorstands. The baseplates is a little "wobbly" and without spikes it's really not stable. Anyone had similar issues or just my regular bad luck ?
post #2574 of 2935
Pulled the trigger on some Cl-4's, UPS said they shoud be here today! Will be running them with a Vincent 236mk intergrated amp and Hailde DAC HD

Congrats to SweElite and sdg4vfx on their speakers! Cannot wait to hear feedback.
post #2575 of 2935
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Originally Posted by milsap195 View Post

Pulled the trigger on some Cl-4's, UPS said they shoud be here today! Will be running them with a Vincent 236mk intergrated amp and Hailde DAC HD
Congrats to SweElite and sdg4vfx on their speakers! Cannot wait to hear feedback.

Don't have CL-3's (yet) but they are on my short list to audition. (Waiting for a break from work!) Have heard them twice in two different environments - incredible sound ; )
post #2576 of 2935
Anyone has some ideas at what hz i should split the Stradas ? 80 seems like a good idea to me, what you think ?
post #2577 of 2935
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Originally Posted by SweElite View Post

Anyone has some ideas at what hz i should split the Stradas ? 80 seems like a good idea to me, what you think ?

My setup is Stradas (R/L/C), 2 x A'Divas (Surround) and TR3 Sub. All speakers are wall mounted and connected to Onkyo 818 AVR. The Audyssey XT32 room correction tool (of Onkyo AVR) set the crossover to 120Hz (Stradas) and to 90Hz (A'Divas) in my case. It sounds great. Chris from Audyssey reckons this is normal. This doesn't mean Stradas cannot handle lower frequencies. I suppose it just means, given my acoustic surroundings, TR3 sub can handle below 120Hz better than Stradas. It does not roll of as quickly.

Actually if you think about it TR3 does the power hungry heavy lifting and AVR can have more headroom for the upper bass, mid-range and highs without distortion. Mind you XT32 calibration is the most sophisticated one and also the settings are room dependent. I suggest you try out 80, 100, 120 Hz and see what you like most.
post #2578 of 2935
Gallo Strada 2: part one of the 6moons review:

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/gallo14/1.html

It looks like Gallo is considering a (not easy or inexpensive) road to factory upgrading the original Stradas to Strada 2's.

Esau
post #2579 of 2935
The six moons strada 2 review is what I have grown to dislike about hifi. Was it just me or did he do a flip flop on his classico review? In his CL-3 review he raved about them and gave the blue moon award. In this article he does not come out and say it but he puts down the classico line as not gallo sound or 90% of it????? In his CL-2 review, it was a better more grown up version of the strada but he liked the strada look better. Now two strada and tr3 sub blows a 3.5 away..... I dont know???? Guess what ever he currently has is the latest and greatest...

Paul
post #2580 of 2935
Update on the Classico 4 break in. After about 50 hours things are breaking in very well. I switched the positive and negative cables on the speakes last night and it made quite a bit of difference! It softened the highs and brought out quite a bit more base.
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