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post #2731 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Vedder323 View Post

I have owned/loved the Gallo 3.1s for a while now and have been powering them with the Peachtree Audio Nova Pre and 220 Power amp using the B&O modules. I have always been interested in hearing them with tubes and know that you typically suggest solid state for these speakers. I spoke with Mark Obrien at Rogue Audio and he is leading me to believe the Cronus amp with the KT120s would be more than effective in man handling the subs in the speakers. He even told me they used his gear in testing the Gallos? I was just wondering if you think I might be making a mistake going from the 220/8ohms to a 100 watt tube amp?

I just picked up a pair of Reference 3.5s and am really enjoying them now that they are broken in. I am driving them with ease with an AVA U70 tube amp which is "only" 35 watts a channel. However, I do have them crossed over at 80hz to a pair of VMPS subs. I would think that you wouldn't have any problems, depending upon the size of the room. You could also tap into the second voice coil of the woofer. I do understand that the 3.5 are perhaps a little more efficient but I truly dont' think I have clipped my amp yet.

I think tubes would be a great match, I don't really think i would want to drive them with ice power but I haven't heard that amp so really can't comment. I can just say that with my U70 I get plenty of volume and nice dimensionality.

enjoy!
post #2732 of 2935
Hi! I have just bought 5 new Gallo Strada 2 and 2 Gallo TR-3D subs. I just Wonder which AV should I choose? I have been looking for these 3: Onkyo TX-NR5010, Yamaha RX-A3020 and Pioneer SC-LX86. Which is the best, and which will suit the Strada 2 best?
post #2733 of 2935
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Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

For anyone interested, on Friday, April 12th from 6-9pm, Anthony Gallo will be demoing some of his new speakers at AV Synergy in Clinton, NJ...

Any updates on how this went?
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New pair of original Stradas arrived this week. Replacing a pair of Quad 9L active which I have used in my office at work for the last couple of years- the Quads are superb on the desktop. Also using a Mirage s8 sub with high pass at 85hz. Stradas run full range and are being driven by an old AVR which is being replaced with a nuforce dda-100 this week, also going to try these with an Olive One once it is released. Marantz na7004 is the source.

Really pleased so far and although I am not a big break in guy, these do seem to be opening up. They are incredibly resolving and play extremely loud if asked. The level of detail and transparency is what really is stunning. I was a little uncertain how this was going to work out and at this point I am thrilled. I have about 25 hrs on them now and still am playing with things so we will see how things develop.
post #2735 of 2935
Yes, I just got a pair of Ref 3.5 and break in was both important and significant. minimums of 100 hours.
post #2736 of 2935
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Originally Posted by mags77 View Post

Hi! I have just bought 5 new Gallo Strada 2 and 2 Gallo TR-3D subs. I just Wonder which AV should I choose? I have been looking for these 3: Onkyo TX-NR5010, Yamaha RX-A3020 and Pioneer SC-LX86. Which is the best, and which will suit the Strada 2 best?

I'm using 5 Stradas and an HSU Research sub with a Sherwood Newcastle R-972. It is an absolutely incredible match. The R-972 has Trinnov room correction which makes the speakers seem to disappear. You can currently pick up an R-972 for about $600 instead of the MSRP of $1,800.

I recommend reading the more recent posts in the Sherwood R-972 user thread. The R-972 has some issues that may be a deal breaker for some users but I bought a 2nd one to use in my 2nd theater (that system uses Boston Acoustics speakers) and I easily overlook the R-972s quirks. The sound quality is spectacular.

Good luck with your decision.
post #2737 of 2935
No knock on the Sherwood or your post but one trait the Gallos have in spades is the ability to completely disappear, Trinnov or not.
post #2738 of 2935
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Originally Posted by simon wagstaff2 View Post

No knock on the Sherwood or your post but one trait the Gallos have in spades is the ability to completely disappear, Trinnov or not.

I agree. However, Trinnov takes it to the next level. I noticed a big difference after replacing an Outlaw Audio 990 with the Sherwood R-972. With Trinnov engaged, the Stradas are even better.

My 2nd theater uses Boston Acoustics speakers and at times will call more attention to individual speakers (rather than just having sounds come from phantom locations in space). I was able to offset that issue somewhat by adding height speakers but the Stradas are still far superior in this and several other ways. So again, I agree that Gallos have a pseudo invisibility cloak in regards to localization.
post #2739 of 2935
Since the Strada 2 uses a larger ferrite magnet and the same small woofer enclosure doesn't this greatly reduce the air volume of the enclosure? Wouldn't this impact the low frequency response of the woofer?

For example isn't the only hardware difference between the Nucleus Micro and A'Diva's just the size of the enclosure?

I'm on the fence about the Strada 1 vs Strada 2. The cost reduction with the ferrite magnet is a bit of a turn off, but the significant improvement in power efficiency is nice.
post #2740 of 2935
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Originally Posted by MaxGeek View Post

Since the Strada 2 uses a larger ferrite magnet and the same small woofer enclosure doesn't this greatly reduce the air volume of the enclosure? Wouldn't this impact the low frequency response of the woofer?

For example isn't the only hardware difference between the Nucleus Micro and A'Diva's just the size of the enclosure?

I'm on the fence about the Strada 1 vs Strada 2. The cost reduction with the ferrite magnet is a bit of a turn off, but the significant improvement in power efficiency is nice.
I have asked this question on their Facebook page. If the gain in efficiency is from raising the crossover point (what I have heard) then not worth it. I drive my ref 3.5 with 35 watts of tube juice, no problem.
post #2741 of 2935
Contemplating buying some speakers to use in a bookcase (literally, for design/layout/space reasons, they'd be on shelves in the bookcase). Anyone here have a sense of how much, if any, the Strada 2s would suffer from such a placement? Would probably pair them with a sub - likely the Sonos sub. (So yes, obviously i'm factoring in considerations other than just sound quality in my setup, but sound quality is still important to me - thus the ask.)
post #2742 of 2935
The main problem with that placement would be variations in the mid-bass response of a speaker.

The Strada 2 is only rated down to 68 Hz, so that should not be a problem.

I highly recommend the NHT B12D subwoofer, which is exceptionally clean and linear.
Edited by commsysman - 5/19/13 at 10:12am
post #2743 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Third Try View Post

Contemplating buying some speakers to use in a bookcase (literally, for design/layout/space reasons, they'd be on shelves in the bookcase). Anyone here have a sense of how much, if any, the Strada 2s would suffer from such a placement? Would probably pair them with a sub - likely the Sonos sub. (So yes, obviously i'm factoring in considerations other than just sound quality in my setup, but sound quality is still important to me - thus the ask.)

Generally, speakers don't like to be put in a bookcase. But you already know that since you're specifically have concerns about it. In my opinion, the Strada's are better suited to be put in a bookcase than regular box type speakers because they have a smaller footprint. Putting wooden speakers on a wood bookcase can cause resonance. The Strada's will come with a table/desktop stand which could lower the resonance factor.

And I specially like the wide dispersion of the tweeters to fill the room. I also think you're making a wise choice of pairing them with a subwoofer. I've never listened to the Sonos sub, but Gallo is blowing out the TR-2 subwoofer right now which would be a nice match to the Strada.

Good luck,

Howard
post #2744 of 2935
The Strada 2 freq response is 68Hz - 20Khz +/- 3dB, Sensitivity 90dB/1 watt/1 meter

While the original Strada is 45Hz to 40Khz +/- 3db, 87 Db/1 Watt/1 metre

the switching of 4 voice coils to 2 and from neodymium magnet to conventional one that takes up more space gives me pause..

i know one can't just compare specs, but it doesnt seem like an upgrade.. looking forward to listeing comparison between the two
post #2745 of 2935
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Originally Posted by mspeed76 View Post

The Strada 2 freq response is 68Hz - 20Khz +/- 3dB, Sensitivity 90dB/1 watt/1 meter

The original Strada was in fact nowhere near ±3dB. It's a fairly colored speaker in the midrange.
post #2746 of 2935
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Originally Posted by DS-21 View Post

The original Strada was in fact nowhere near ±3dB.

Correct.

I own the original Stradas (LRC). Audyssey XT32 set the XO to 120Hz. So the sub location becomes critical to avoid any low end localisation issues. My sub is located between LR Stradas; just under the center Strada. I have a SVS SB12 sealed sub. Very nice match I might add.
post #2747 of 2935
Easiest thing is to get a second sub, xt32 does a good job with 2 subs, not really stereo I don't think but I use stereo placement for them anyway.this is why I went with the Ref 3.5 vs the strada. I still cross them over at 80 Hz.
post #2748 of 2935
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Originally Posted by simon wagstaff2 View Post

Easiest thing is to get a second sub, xt32 does a good job with 2 subs, not really stereo I don't think but I use stereo placement for them anyway.this is why I went with the Ref 3.5 vs the strada. I still cross them over at 80 Hz.

As an authorized dealer who has extensively played with the Ref 3.5's (I have a 5.1 home theater set-up with all 3.5 speakers in my own residence), I think it's best not to x-over the 3.5 speakers. For stereo listening, you'd be better off adding the Reference SA amp to the 2nd voice coil than adding a sub. Much more musical and goes plenty low.
post #2749 of 2935
I am driving them with an AVA U70 with 35 watts a channel, I want to high pass the amp. I bought the Ref 3.5 as I wanted to keep some dynamic in the mid-bass.Crossed over at 80 Hz there is still plenty of activity in the woofer. I already had the pair of vmps subs. I suppose I could add the SA amp and run in life+mains mode but still putting the load on the tube amp, which I don't want to do.

A pair of subs eases the localization issue with a slightly high crossover and also doubles maximum output (3db). There are some other benefits,

As an enthusiast of over 40 years I am happy with the sound, the bass tone, detail, dynamics and extension. With a higher powered amp I would agree, as it is I get all the overall dynamics and volume I desire. BTW 90% or more of my listening is 2 channel.

I had read the new line of Gallo speakers were factory direct and they are dropping the dealer network. Is this true? I bought mine brand new with warranty for $2,800.00
post #2750 of 2935
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Originally Posted by simon wagstaff2 View Post

I am driving them with an AVA U70 with 35 watts a channel, I want to high pass the amp. I bought the Ref 3.5 as I wanted to keep some dynamic in the mid-bass.Crossed over at 80 Hz there is still plenty of activity in the woofer. I already had the pair of vmps subs. I suppose I could add the SA amp and run in life+mains mode but still putting the load on the tube amp, which I don't want to do.

A pair of subs eases the localization issue with a slightly high crossover and also doubles maximum output (3db). There are some other benefits,

As an enthusiast of over 40 years I am happy with the sound, the bass tone, detail, dynamics and extension. With a higher powered amp I would agree, as it is I get all the overall dynamics and volume I desire. BTW 90% or more of my listening is 2 channel.

I had read the new line of Gallo speakers were factory direct and they are dropping the dealer network. Is this true? I bought mine brand new with warranty for $2,800.00

Now I understand your reasoning behind crossing over the 3.5 speakers at 80hz. These speakers love power! Actually, Gallo specially recommends their SA amps to those who have low power amps. I've never tried crossing over the main amp at 80hz and then setting the SA amp's x-over to 80hz and below, so I can't really comment on how well that would sound. And as you know, although low frequencies are non-directional in theory, considering your x-over slope, 80hz can be directional. I understand that's why you're using two subs. This hobby is always about trying out new stuff...and that's what makes it fun. wink.gif And if you're happy with the sound, that's all that matters.

You got a great deal on your speakers! You just can't beat them with anything near that price. And I haven't heard anything from Gallo about them selling exclusively direct. They do that with the Classico line, so it's not out of the question about going that way in the future, but I haven't heard anything.

And if you ever thought about trying out the SA amp, this may be the time as they're blowing those out right now in a sale. If interested, shoot me a PM and I'll quote you a great price as I do have some in stock.
post #2751 of 2935
call me pessimistic, but this may be the real reason why they "revamped" their entire line.. to render "old" stock obsolete so they can sell direct themself
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Originally Posted by simon wagstaff2 View Post


I had read the new line of Gallo speakers were factory direct and they are dropping the dealer network. Is this true? I bought mine brand new with warranty for $2,800.00
post #2752 of 2935
Thanks for the info. I had thought about the SA amp but it doesn't make a lot of sense with the pair of subs that I have. if I were to run the SA amp I would still be running the U70 full range, which I don't want to do. I am quite happy with the Ref 3.5, they throw a great soundstage and the drum sound is quite dynamic and lifelike. I haven't heard many other speakers that have such a good drum sound, it makes rock based, or percussion based music sound quite good.

I don't quite understand the Strada 2. I would think you would want as much range as possible running through the CDT tweeter, but they raised the crossover to 6khz instead of 3khz. I think they are targeting desktop systems which is where the money is these days I suppose. I was concerned about mid-bass response with just the 4 inch woofers on the strada and find that even crossed over at 80hz there is still quite a bit of activity in the 10" driver.

As it stands the 35 watt tube amp sound very nice with the Ref 3.5 but when run full range I can clip it, if I put my mind to it.

thanks!
post #2753 of 2935
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Originally Posted by simon wagstaff2 View Post

Easiest thing is to get a second sub, xt32 does a good job with 2 subs, not really stereo I don't think but I use stereo placement for them anyway

I wish I could do it! My key reason to go for Stradas in the first place was to place them in a very difficult room with little available space on the wall only. Unfortunately there is no space for the second sub.
post #2754 of 2935
Just bought the Gallo Classico 3's...love them but I need spikes. Have looked all over without success, can't even find the correct sizes, can anyone help???
post #2755 of 2935
Congrats on the purchase. I would assume you are placing them on carpet which is why you need the spikes. The gel pads works great on hard surfaces such as wood flooring. Try looking at Parts Express for spikes.
post #2756 of 2935
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Originally Posted by macuniverse View Post

Correct.

I own the original Stradas (LRC). Audyssey XT32 set the XO to 120Hz. So the sub location becomes critical to avoid any low end localisation issues. My sub is located between LR Stradas; just under the center Strada. I have a SVS SB12 sealed sub. Very nice match I might add.
Stradas kind of need Audyssey to sound balanced. They sound a bit hollow and distant on their own. I've heard that the Strada 2s are more forward, far more. I'm looking for an expert comparison.
Audyssey set my x-over at 150Hz; the midbass sounded too round, so I adjusted it to 120. Stradas really need two fast subwoofers that can get above 150Hz without making the midbass sound like sine waves, preferably configured in stereo.
Edited by tronic307 - 6/18/13 at 7:08pm
post #2757 of 2935
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Originally Posted by simon wagstaff2 View Post

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I expect it's caused by wanting more sensitivity? Tweeters have a limit with the amount of loudness they can make a lower frequencies. So asking for 3dB more means having to roll the CDT off from a higher frequency?

I have TR-1's and they are making sound at about 1kHz, so a slow roll off, first order? I couldn't get a happy blend. Set to about 80Hz the TR-1 muddy the lower end (lower 1kHz!?) from the Stradas, set to the minimum of 50Hz is best in my room with my equipment but leaves a bit of a 'hole' in the frequency response.

I know a lot of people scoff and chortle disparagingly at the notion of mains cables or any cables doing anything at all, but here with my equipment, room and ears, very high quality interconnect and very big T&E (10mm² into my super spur) both clarified the TR-1's quite a bit. These are not subs really, they are bass units and so need the quality amplification, etc, as the mids and tops. To my way of thinking, sub bass is underneath bass, ie, subsonics.
post #2758 of 2935
Does anyone know the minimum impedance of the Strada 2s? I'm looking into power options - including Rotel Class D amps - and knowing how difficult they are to drive would be helpful. A impedance / frequency impedance curve would be edifying.
post #2759 of 2935
Hi . Just found out that the Ref 3.5 will be discontinued. Does anyone have any info as to the new model Gallo will replace this with?

Thanks!
Kevin
post #2760 of 2935
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Originally Posted by hokasu View Post

Does anyone know the minimum impedance of the Strada 2s? I'm looking into power options - including Rotel Class D amps - and knowing how difficult they are to drive would be helpful. A impedance / frequency impedance curve would be edifyin0g.

There was a review done by a HT review site with exactly that information, and I believe there is a link in this thread, but I'm on my phone so searhing for it would be difficult at this time. Good luck.
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