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post #481 of 2754
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Originally Posted by Novex View Post

I tried the TR-2, but it was way too small for my 24'-24' room. I purchased a Revel B15a and couldn't be happier. I ended up purchasing the Reference AV loudspeakers, and will be posting my impressions soon...

Give us your impressions asap. I recently purchased the REF A/V's & after some problems with calibration and my receiver, they really sound fantastic. Make sure you carefully calibrate.. My current H/K AVR 247 2 channel settings:

front left -4
front right -4
subwoofer 0
post #482 of 2754
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Originally Posted by jfklennon View Post

I've tried external amplification twice before using first a QSC, and then the H/K signature alot of people rave about. I have not been pleased with the results at all. Switching back to my 'lower powered' Harman Kardon AVR 247 music & movies sounds so much warmer/fuller/richer. My experience is that external amps seem to add a fake/trebley/harsh sound & made my high frequency 'sizzle'. anyone else notice this?

The room has a lot to do with it as well as the upstream components. I'm also running a Pioneer as a pre into a 200wpc icepower amp with a Transporter as my main source and I've finally stopped analyzing the performance and begun to just enjoy the music. I had to get the 3.1's away from the walls and soften the room a bit but I don't have an issue with "sizzle".
post #483 of 2754
I also have a power amp and the Gallos sound more mellow and less harsh when compared to powering via my Denon AVR.
post #484 of 2754
Well, I have been trying several "highend" solidstate amps and compared them to my receiver and I have to say that the differences are minor and not really makes me want to pay that much money when the only big difference I can hear is a bit tighter and more extended bass.

I have a SVS Ultra and when running it with the 3.1s powered with my receiver I prefer that combo. Each of my 3.1s get 130-140 watts from my receiver and I have been thinking of getting the SA Amp but can the 3.1s be truly bombastic in the bass department with the SA amp?
post #485 of 2754
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Originally Posted by audiophile82 View Post

Well, I have been trying several "highend" solidstate amps and compared them to my receiver and I have to say that the differences are minor and not really makes me want to pay that much money when the only big difference I can hear is a bit tighter and more extended bass.

I have a SVS Ultra and when running it with the 3.1s powered with my receiver I prefer that combo. Each of my 3.1s get 130-140 watts from my receiver and I have been thinking of getting the SA Amp but can the 3.1s be truly bombastic in the bass department with the SA amp?

If you are going for "bombastic" I would think that the SVS Ultra is the way to go. The SA will extend your bass but I don't think it would be "bombastic".
post #486 of 2754
Who here does tube amps with the 3.1's? My guess is due to the tranparency and accuracy of the 3.1's, they'd be a perfect match for tubes.

As for the SA amp, I'm sure that would only be needed if you were running 2.0 (i.e. sans sub) - thus making the 3.1 an actual full range speaker.

The Ultra is a nice sub - do you have the new one (PB-13) or the older model?
post #487 of 2754
I use the PC-13 Ultra - newest model. Awesome!

I`ve put the idea of a sub amp away and I will try other approaches.

Currently my setup consist of 3.1s with AV ref center and I am using some dirt-cheap satelites for surround duty.

I am thinking of getting Gallos for that purpose as well, but which of the smaller models are best suited for the job? (7.1) I will probably need two pairs for 7.1 - right?
post #488 of 2754
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Originally Posted by audiophile82 View Post

I use the PC-13 Ultra - newest model. Awesome!

I`ve put the idea of a sub amp away and I will try other approaches.

Currently my setup consist of 3.1s with AV ref center and I am using some dirt-cheap satelites for surround duty.

I am thinking of getting Gallos for that purpose as well, but which of the smaller models are best suited for the job? (7.1) I will probably need two pairs for 7.1 - right?


I have the same front set-up except I use Orb's for the rear. I've tried the Micro's and they sound good but aren't quite as expansive and they are more expensive. The Orb's go slightly deeper, sound great and easy to mount.

See Orb.com and these Omnimount:
http://www.omnimount.com/consumer/pr...rentId=8.2.3.1
post #489 of 2754
Has anyone had a problem with reference 3.1's not being powerful enough for a large room? Occasionally I like to listen to loud rock, and the 3.1's just don't seem capable of filling a large room (my room is about 30x30). I demoed some bp7002 Definitive Techs, and they seem more than capable of filling my room, but the sound quality is pretty far from the Gallo's. I was thinking about trying the top of the line Definitive techs, but I doubt they will match the Gallo's SQ either. Any advice?
post #490 of 2754
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Originally Posted by KKM View Post

I have the same front set-up except I use Orb's for the rear. I've tried the Micro's and they sound good but aren't quite as expansive and they are more expensive. The Orb's go slightly deeper, sound great and easy to mount.

See Orb.com and these Omnimount:
http://www.omnimount.com/consumer/pr...rentId=8.2.3.1

I will probably get a pair of Micro ti`s with the floorstands... I want Gallo all the way - the price isn`t that much more.
post #491 of 2754
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Originally Posted by dave98svt View Post

Has anyone had a problem with reference 3.1's not being powerful enough for a large room? Occasionally I like to listen to loud rock, and the 3.1's just don't seem capable of filling a large room (my room is about 30x30). I demoed some bp7002 Definitive Techs, and they seem more than capable of filling my room, but the sound quality is pretty far from the Gallo's. I was thinking about trying the top of the line Definitive techs, but I doubt they will match the Gallo's SQ either. Any advice?

I've heard the 3.1's in fairly large rooms at the HE shows and they sound great. Have you played with positioning the speakers farther apart? They also seem to suck power, so maybe a more powerful amp will help. I like class D amps.
post #492 of 2754
What I have found fascinating about the 3.1's is that no matter how loud you play them they never sound loud. I can sit down and listen to music and I find myself habitually turning up the volume because there is never any strain on my ears even though I am actually playing them quite loud. I believe this speaks to the quality of these speakers more than anything else.

One other point I would like to make. These speakers have tremendous upside for quality of sound based on what is being used for upstream components. I just purchased a Spectron Musician III SE MKII amp with both V-Cap and Bybee upgrades. It cost me three times what the 3.1's cost me. The sound is absolutely divine because the 3.1's are up to the task. Some may think this is nuts and it does go against the conventional wisdom of whatever you spend on the speakers that is what you should spend on an amp. I believe the 3.1's blow this thinking out of the water.

Of course this is only my personal opinion and I am sure there are many out there who would disagree.
post #493 of 2754
I know what you`re saying BB. I can turn them up loud and they are never "edgy" like many other designs, they are the best speakers I`ve owned - period. And on my top 5 list of best overall.

(Best I`ve heard to date was a pair of Avantgarde Duo Grosso with full Accuphase electronics - those blew me out of the water!)

I have also noticed that they truly excel when fed high quality material with enough current. I love `em so much and I can`t see me upgrading any time soon. (Perhaps if 3.2 is released in some years)
post #494 of 2754
Im using a NHT icepower 200 watt RMS amp. Could that not be enough power?
post #495 of 2754
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Originally Posted by bostonbean View Post

What I have found fascinating about the 3.1's is that no matter how loud you play them they never sound loud. I can sit down and listen to music and I find myself habitually turning up the volume because there is never any strain on my ears even though I am actually playing them quite loud. I believe this speaks to the quality of these speakers more than anything else.

One other point I would like to make. These speakers have tremendous upside for quality of sound based on what is being used for upstream components. I just purchased a Spectron Musician III SE MKII amp with both V-Cap and Bybee upgrades. It cost me three times what the 3.1's cost me. The sound is absolutely divine because the 3.1's are up to the task. Some may think this is nuts and it does go against the conventional wisdom of whatever you spend on the speakers that is what you should spend on an amp. I believe the 3.1's blow this thinking out of the water.

Of course this is only my personal opinion and I am sure there are many out there who would disagree.

I do notice that ability to play loud without ever having the feeling that they are "blasting" though the acoustics are not great in my apartment so it can start to feel quite loud at times. My floor is tile and the walls are concrete with no sound treatment other then having a couch in absorb sound. My next project is to fix some of my acoustic issues.

As far as spending 3 times more sources then the speakers, that one is a bit tricky. No doubt the improved electronics should help but I suppose I would ask if you turned it around do you think you can find a better sounding system with speakers costing 3 times your Ref3.1's with lower end electronics? I've not done enough comparisons myself, I choose the best speakers within my budget at the time (Ref3.05) so I never compared them to speakers that were 3 times more.

BTW, what is an approx for what the 3.1's sell for or the suggested retail price at the moment?
post #496 of 2754
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Originally Posted by dave98svt View Post

Im using a NHT icepower 200 watt RMS amp. Could that not be enough power?


I thought you mentioned earlier that you had blown a speaker and had it in for repair. Amp clipping? Maybe you can trial a more powerful amp or you might have to accept that the 3.1's won't play as loud as you want in that room and look for another solution.
post #497 of 2754
Any news on the Strada? I was hoping they would announce a release date for them at CEDIA, but have not been able to find any info yet.
post #498 of 2754
I was waiting for the Strada too. I was going to pair them with the TR2. But then one of my Meadowlark Shearwater Hotrods gave out, and my local Gallo dealer had a pair of the 3.1's on demo, so I snapped them up. My first listen was last night. They do bass differently than my transmission line ported Meadowlarks. Much more taut, but not as much air being moved I guess due to the sealed enclosure for that 10" woofer. I am running them without the bass amp, but with that 15ohm resistor across the bass speaker posts. I would like them to reach a bit lower, and am thinking about adding in the TR2 subwoofer. I should mention that I have a fully run in demo pair (or at least I think they're close... the dealer liked a lot of jazz, without very much bass, so I'm wondering how many hours they truly have playing any sort of bass rich music to loosen up those woofers).
post #499 of 2754
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Originally Posted by Mikazaru View Post

Any news on the Strada? I was hoping they would announce a release date for them at CEDIA, but have not been able to find any info yet.

I attended CEDIA and unfortunately Gallo didn't, but I did call them about a month ago to get an update on Strada availability. The rep I spoke with thought they would be available by the end of Q3. By my calendar that means they have about two weeks left...

In the final analysis, my calendar is irrelevant but worst case I would hope they would be available before the end of the year.
post #500 of 2754
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Originally Posted by dave98svt View Post

Im using a NHT icepower 200 watt RMS amp. Could that not be enough power?

Tbh, to get the most out of the Gallo's you have to start looking with at least 300W and it has been known Gallo users to be using anything up to 500W...
Dave, I have a similar set-up with the Marantz SR8002 and although I'm using the dedicated SA bass amp I've found maybe the receiver(realworld test figures-@8ohm-100W)struggling...

Maybe Pioneer's new flagship offering, the LX-90(Class D/Ice amps)is the way to go!
post #501 of 2754
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Originally Posted by dave98svt View Post

Has anyone had a problem with reference 3.1's not being powerful enough for a large room? Occasionally I like to listen to loud rock, and the 3.1's just don't seem capable of filling a large room (my room is about 30x30). I demoed some bp7002 Definitive Techs, and they seem more than capable of filling my room, but the sound quality is pretty far from the Gallo's. I was thinking about trying the top of the line Definitive techs, but I doubt they will match the Gallo's SQ either. Any advice?

Hi Dave,
I have the Reference AV's in a 24'x24' great room, and they seem to fill it fine. I have them paired with a Revel B15a, so that helps a lot in the bass department...Although the AV's put out quite a bit of bass on their own! I am looking at Emotiva's offerings right now, to replace an aging Denon 3600...

http://emotiva.com/xpa5.html
post #502 of 2754
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Originally Posted by Kpt_Krunch View Post

Who here does tube amps with the 3.1's? My guess is due to the tranparency and accuracy of the 3.1's, they'd be a perfect match for tubes.

As for the SA amp, I'm sure that would only be needed if you were running 2.0 (i.e. sans sub) - thus making the 3.1 an actual full range speaker.

The Ultra is a nice sub - do you have the new one (PB-13) or the older model?

They don't like tubes, I've tried. They don't need the warmth that tubes can impart and they aren't all that efficient so they do better with a SS amp that can do a better job of manhandling them and making them behave.
post #503 of 2754
I agree with Harry...I tried the Reference AVs with McIntosh tubes, because that is what the dealer had them hooked up to...Didn't like it as much as SS...Too laid back for me...
post #504 of 2754
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Originally Posted by Harrypt View Post

They don't like tubes, I've tried. They don't need the warmth that tubes can impart and they aren't all that efficient so they do better with a SS amp that can do a better job of manhandling them and making them behave.

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Originally Posted by Novex View Post

I agree with Harry...I tried the Reference AVs with McIntosh tubes, because that is what the dealer had them hooked up to...Didn't like it as much as SS...Too laid back for me...

Good to know - tubes definitely require very efficient speakers. I actually ended up with a pair of Book shelf Energy Veritas 2.2i's. Was looking at Totem as well and the Arro's sounded very nice but the Veritas had more bass and were easier to drive. Overall it's a good match for my 'tube' system. Still very interested in the Gallo's though. How are they with "D" class amps, for anyone that may be running with those?
post #505 of 2754
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Originally Posted by Kpt_Krunch View Post

Good to know - tubes definitely require very efficient speakers.

Not true at all. For example, Magnepans love tubes and sound brilliant with them. They have similar efficiency as the Gallos. Problem is you need big tubes like the big powerful Audio Research or old Conrad Johnson amps. Efficiency and the sound quality created by the match between speaker and amp are separate issues with some overlap as to cause and effect. IMO, even a very powerful tube amp on the Gallos would not be as good a match as SS.
post #506 of 2754
I'd be interested in anyone's view of pairing the Gallo Ref 3.1's with Rotel's 500W RB-1092 Ice-power stereo amp....Good idea or not?
post #507 of 2754
I am running AV Refs with Bryston (9B-SST and PP300's) and really like the sound. I tried a Conrad Johnson tube integrated (50 WPC) on two channel which sounded quite good but not very dynamic. I have the Refs paired with a Revel B15a which blend beautifully but I had to mount the Refs out from the wall some 12 inches to get the sound to my liking.

I hear little if any difference between the 9B-SST and the more than twice as powerful PP300's even at peak reference levels of 105db. It has been my experience that high current capability is more important to better sound quality than high wattage went selecting an amplifier.
post #508 of 2754
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Originally Posted by Servingko View Post

I am running AV Refs with Bryston (9B-SST and PP300's) and really like the sound. I tried a Conrad Johnson tube integrated (50 WPC) on two channel which sounded quite good but not very dynamic. I have the Refs paired with a Revel B15a which blend beautifully but I had to mount the Refs out from the wall some 12 inches to get the sound to my liking.

I hear little if any difference between the 9B-SST and the more than twice as powerful PP300's even at peak reference levels of 105db. It has been my experience that high current capability is more important to better sound quality than high wattage went selecting an amplifier.

Wow Servingko! I have the Refs AV's paired with a Revel B15a as well...I agree, they do blend beautifully...I am looking for new power these days, just not sure what direction to go in...
post #509 of 2754
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Originally Posted by elockett View Post

I attended CEDIA and unfortunately Gallo didn't, but I did call them about a month ago to get an update on Strada availability. The rep I spoke with thought they would be available by the end of Q3. By my calendar that means they have about two weeks left...

In the final analysis, my calendar is irrelevant but worst case I would hope they would be available before the end of the year.

Thanks for the update. Canada is usually a bit behind, so I will probably have to wait until the new year.
post #510 of 2754
I love the sound of both of these speakers...going to go with the gallo 3.1 ref for l and r and the reference center with psb 363 in wall rears OR the platinum t6 the plat c4 center with the psb 363 in wall rears...OPINIONS appreciated and am still unsure of electroinics going with either nad master m15 and m25amp or the new marantz 8003 combo, or maybe the denon 5308..decisions decisions...definately decided on the 111fd elite 50'' as tv's
thanks for help
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